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SVB Hall of Shame

416 点作者 bsamuels大约 2 年前

52 条评论

naet大约 2 年前
I don&#x27;t think I agree with this as a mark of &quot;shame&quot;. Were these companies wrong to pull money out of SVB when they (correctly) thought the bank might be insolvent or headed for trouble?<p>Are we celebrating those who left their money in, despite the warnings, when they could have potentially lost it all if the government didn&#x27;t step in and make an unprecedented promise to honor the deposits? Would that have been &quot;heroic&quot; in some way? I personally don&#x27;t think so, that seems more like stupidity if the potential consequence is your company losing all it&#x27;s money and going bankrupt for outside reasons.<p>SVB as an institution sponsored lobbyists to lobby against regulations meant to keep banks stable, then without those regulations they failed to self-regulate properly and failed massively. That is IMO pretty shameful. But I don&#x27;t blame any clients of theirs for taking money out when they saw a potential instability. They did not create that instability; that instability created the bank run.
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dahdum大约 2 年前
Put another way, this is a list of VCs that prioritize their portfolio companies health and success more than their personal banking relationships or public perception.<p>That’s a pretty strong signal to future startups they’ve got your back when the shit hits the fan.<p>I’m not saying it’s <i>good</i>, but I’m betting a lot of founders are feeling pretty thankful. The bailout was never guaranteed.
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462436347大约 2 年前
These people absolutely deserve to be named and shamed. If the big, &quot;evil&quot; banks can cooperate for the collective good of their industry and the wider economy as they did today by injecting $30 billion of deposits into First Republic to forestall its collapse, there&#x27;s no reason why these supposedly enlightened, rational VCs couldn&#x27;t at a minimum collectively agree to <i>just not completely withdraw their deposits</i> from SVB in a stampede, or perhaps go a bit further and actually help them raise additional capital.<p>Instead they gutted the bank that provided them with banking services for <i>40 years</i>, often when other banks would not. Some of them even did so two-facedly, publicly claiming to support SVB while pulling their and their companies&#x27; money out of it:<p>&gt; Y Combinator advised its portfolios to collapse SVB, while Garry Tan petitioned the government for a bailout<p>Union Square:<p>&gt; Signed the statement [of support of SVB] after contributing to the run.<p>Fred Wilson seems like a great example of PG&#x27;s &quot;Mean People Fail&quot; delusion.
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fwlr大约 2 年前
I’m not going to be using this site to guide my opinions of VCs, I don’t generally outsource that much of my opinion-making to 3rd parties. But it does broadly reflect my opinions, you could get a very rough “general direction” picture of how I think from reading it.<p>“It’s rational to join a bank run, VCs would have been negligent to their companies if they advised to stay”<p>I know! Believe it or not I have studied a fair bit of game theory, enough to go beyond “it was a prisoners dilemma” and analyze the SVB collapse as an iterated prisoners dilemma with variable information&#x2F;reputation and a small number of rounds (in this case the amount of information&#x2F;reputation broadcasting very quickly drove the whole population to “defect always” and the ecosystem rapidly collapsed).<p>I trust myself to be capable of assigning blame for the bank run correctly (broadly speaking: I. nobody started the run, everyone joined it; II. joining the run earlier is very slightly more blameful than joining the run later; III. being part of the run “loudly” is very significantly more blameful than being part of the run “quietly”).<p>That is maybe 20%, while the other 80% and thus the real albatross here is the demand to be made whole afterwards.<p>Roughly speaking the least blameful is “you’ll get 250k immediately, a substantial fraction soon, and almost all eventually; if this still kills your business let us know and we’ll try to arrange bridging finance”, while the most blameful is “the government must promise to make us whole on Monday morning or the contagion will spread; use taxpayer money if you have to, this is that important”.
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aristophenes大约 2 年前
I’m sorry, this was an utter mess, shouldn’t have happened and lots of people share blame. But I don’t think it was wrong for depositors to pull deposits from an insolvent (or nearly insolvent) bank. Neither is it wrong to encourage companies you’ve invested in to move money. The only thing I have a problem with is when some of the VCs, like Jason Calacanis, deliberately tried to spread panic to other banks to make SVB more important to the government so they’d backstop his deposits. That was pretty bad.<p>But realizing your badly run bank is badly run and pulling your funds and encouraging others to do the same is a very reasonable thing to do. Certainly not worthy of this virtual tar and feathering. They are, or would have been, the innocent victims of this banks poor risk management.<p>Edit: Link to tweet of screenshot of Jason trying to get everyone to panic about the entire banking system, with the only fix is the government to backstop large SVB deposits. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;nuancerocket&#x2F;status&#x2F;1634922146555392004" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;nuancerocket&#x2F;status&#x2F;1634922146555...</a>
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antics大约 2 年前
I am a founder who had assets tied up in SVB. As someone with something to lose, I&#x27;m going to be honest that I think the people on this list mostly look <i>incredibly</i> stupid—both at the time and in retrospect. And I think it&#x27;s worth dwelling on why.<p>* In a catastrophic (_i.e._, non-backstopped) bank run, _most_ deposits are not getting out of the bank. Especially when the deposit sizes are very large, as they are with corporate treasuries.<p>* Thus, if a catastrophic bank run is already in progress you are unlikely to succeed at saving <i>any</i> of your portfolio treasuries.<p>* BUT, if a catastrophic bank run is <i>not</i> in progress, the <i>downside</i> is that you lose 100% of portfolio treasuries because you started one.<p>I am seeing a lot of people like Elizabeth Yin say that they are proud for telling everyone to pull the plug. I get it. They are on the side of their founders and they want to be helpful, and they believe decisive action helps.<p>My message to all of those investors is that &quot;makes swift but extremely stupid decisions&quot; is not a quality that is admirable in a capital allocator. I don&#x27;t think this rises to a moral failing but pretty much everyone on this list is going on my personal docket of people who are too stupid and impulsive to trust in emergency business contexts.
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twelve40大约 2 年前
If Bloomberg is to be believed, the run started after the funds started experiencing real problems with regular money movement. In which case, it is kind of an emergency?<p>&gt; But the firm learned that its limited partners were encountering issues using SVB services as they tried to transfer the funds — they weren’t immediately going through as expected, the person said.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2023-03-11&#x2F;thiel-s-founders-fund-withdrew-millions-from-silicon-valley-bank" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2023-03-11&#x2F;thiel-s-f...</a><p>But the funny part is that this story is still unfolding. The bank&#x27;s new management is soliciting new business under the same &quot;startup-friendly&quot; pitch (and presumably a large number of the same assets and liabilities), and again vulnerable to _the same exact run on a small-ish number of uninsured deposits_ (as opposed to diversified banks with lots of insured accounts across many industries). Except, now they also pitch it as fully insured! So how does this even end? Is it a temporary thing until the bridge bank gets acquired by somebody, or do they have now perpetual 100% protection from the FDIC? Really trying to understand. What good is a friendly bank that collapses from mismanagement and is propped up to serve the same small segment, vulnerable to the same run again?
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nl大约 2 年前
Hmm<p>It was 100% possible to genuinely hold the belief that &quot;Silicon Valley Bank is safe&quot; and to advise portfolio companies to remove money to reduce risk.<p>In-fact, that looks like it was the prudent way to behave: depositors probably haven&#x27;t lost their money but it sure is a lot less liquid.<p>And this is exactly why bank runs are dangerous - once there is risk of one the safe thing to do is to remove your money as well. The only way to stop one is for an institution with a <i>LOT</i> of money to step in an guarantee it.
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indigodaddy大约 2 年前
OP website is complete hogwash. Blaming VCs for deposit drawdowns fully within their right is shortsighted. Now the entire banking industry will need to reassess their treasury bond investment risk. Of course mass actions related to derisking those exposures could also spiral out of control within the ecosystem, with further weak banks with way too much risk exposed and failing, but it’s likely necessary.
kevinwang大约 2 年前
Here&#x27;s a defense of those critiqued here (I am uninformed, so please correct me with more nuance):<p>Bank runs are similar to prisoners&#x27; dilemmas. If all depositors could agree to not bank run, then they would have. Without this agreement, it does make sense to participate in the bank run (earlier is better), since if the bank run happens and you tried to be &quot;good&quot; by not running, you could be the one holding the bag at the end. And if the bank run doesn&#x27;t happen, then no cost is incurred.<p>So unfortunately, a bank run is one of those situations where everyone makes really rational decisions in the absence of coordination, but the outcome is bad.<p>Is this a valid defense?
7e大约 2 年前
VCs are lemmings. This run is yet another example. Very few think for themselves.
davtbaum大约 2 年前
Perhaps I’m an outlier here, but doesn’t this feel a bit exaggerated? I’m not sure why the author (or, for that matter HN in general) feels so strongly about this. In the end, everyone was made whole. VCs acted in the best interest of the companies they back, and SVB made some really poor decisions which caused them to implode. What exactly is the story here?
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jsemrau大约 2 年前
Auditors signed-off their audits : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businesstoday.in&#x2F;silicon-valley-bank&#x2F;story&#x2F;silicon-valley-bank-collapse-kpmg-stands-by-its-audit-of-svb-signature-bank-amid-backlash-373443-2023-03-15" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businesstoday.in&#x2F;silicon-valley-bank&#x2F;story&#x2F;silic...</a><p>with a clean bill of health nonetheless.
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Areibman大约 2 年前
Wouldn’t it make more sense to shame people who pulled out of SVB while simultaneously advocating for a bailout?<p>Only a couple of prominent investors on that list fit the bill
walterbell大约 2 年前
Why didn&#x27;t more SVB depositors take advantage of the SVB offering for sweeping cash funds into insured accounts?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prospect.org&#x2F;economy&#x2F;2023-03-13-silicon-valley-bank-bailout-deregulation&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prospect.org&#x2F;economy&#x2F;2023-03-13-silicon-valley-bank-...</a><p><i>&gt; Importantly, SVB was part of the network of cash sweep banks; it had an offer on its website about it. But according to Adam Levitin, there were only $469 million in reciprocal deposits, which is where cash sweep would show up. In other words, almost nobody banking at SVB used them.</i>
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fastball大约 2 年前
Seems like a lot of people are missing the point of this website.<p>90% of the criticism seems to be &quot;depositors are never morally wrong for withdrawing money from a bank, so this website is bad&quot;.<p>But mostly this website&#x27;s focus seems to be on the hypocrisy, e.g. the VCs who said &quot;don&#x27;t run on the bank&quot; while telling their portfolio companies to run ASAP. That is much more obviously a moral wrong (to me at least).<p>I&#x27;m mostly basing this on the fact that the website explicitly said &quot;You will be remembered for your hypocrisy.&quot; rather than &quot;You will be remembered for running.&quot;
wnevets大约 2 年前
Watching Calacanis claiming he was responsible for the federal government&#x27;s aid was quite shameful
chernevik大约 2 年前
The question for the VCs is not, &quot;why did you advise your portfolio companies to leave SVB?&quot; It is, &quot;why did you not advise your portfolio companies to hold their capital in a t-bill money market?&quot;<p>This obvious step for capital protection was somehow neglected by venture capital firms who pride themselves on advising their portfolio on a host of mundane business issues. A VC would be considered mad if one of its companies didn&#x27;t run financing docs through a lawyer, or handled payroll on its own. This should have been one of the most obvious and simple items on the checklist. Yet somehow it was not.<p>Why not?<p>The failure of any bank should have been a shruggable matter for every startup funded with capital. Instead it was portrayed as an existential issue for all. (This was entirely and obviously false, but let that pass.) If it were an existential threat that was a lapse of the VCs supposedly guiding these business novices.<p>I very much suspect that the hue and cry for a bailout was driven in part by VCs eager to cover this lapse. And to suppress attention on the relationships with SVB that lead them to recommend their companies provide SVB with cheap deposits rather than prudently protect their capital.<p>The answer to a bank run is not &quot;stand by your bank&quot;. It is &quot;be indifferent to what happens to your bank in the first place&quot;.
sacnoradhq大约 2 年前
This comes off as a strawman job.<p>There was no grand conspiracy ahead-of-time to cause a run.<p>It would be dumb on the part of investors and VCs to not facilitate moving vast sums of their money to safer places in an orderly fashion.<p>OTOH, there existed an opportunity to steer cash in directions favorable to the influencers after SVB was already sinking.<p>So I don&#x27;t see any evidence it was anything other than mismanagement by growing too big too quickly and betting on riskier financial instruments than should&#x27;ve been allowed.
soumyadeb大约 2 年前
Scenario planning on two VC reactions on Thus (3&#x2F;9)<p>1) VC1 - SVB is perfectly safe . Don&#x27;t worry and keep the money there.<p>2) VC2 - We are hearing rumors about SVB. You should play safe and move it to another bank. Here is a guy who can help with opening accounts etc.<p>And SVB shuts down on Friday (3&#x2F;10).<p>Guess, which VC would I recommend to a new founder?<p>Yes. Feds saved SVB but there is a world where it might not have and my money could have been locked for days forcing me to miss payroll. In any case, I would have had a sleepless weekend.<p>Founder here.
BoiledCabbage大约 2 年前
The single largest learning point from this experience was how entirely hollow the whole Silicon Valley libertarian ethos really was.<p>And yet again, another group that claims to say &quot;leave us be, take away restrictions and oversight we&#x27;ll take care of ourselves, be more efficient an ask nothing of you&quot;, turnouts to be just another form of &quot;leave us along so we can benefit, and then come save us when we need help&quot;.<p>And to be very clear, the lesson to take away from this isn&#x27;t: don&#x27;t save a group when it needs help - because in the end the Yellen and FDIC did the right thing. To do any differently would have been to cut off our nose to spite our face. The lesson is <i>stop</i> letting groups be allowed to be build these fake worlds. Every single time it works out to be &quot;libertarian when convenient and socialist when suffering&quot;.<p>As we saw with the &quot;code is law&quot;, and other cases - as much as people like the concepts it <i>never</i> holds up when people&#x27;s assets&#x2F;health are actually at stake. It is human nature they will always turn back to society for help after having refused to pay into it to get there (or directly taking advantage of it to profit).<p>If you want to profit off of the hard work of an existing society, you must also pay the costs of maintaining society. Anything otherwise is just a &quot;free rider&quot; problem waiting to explode. We&#x27;re simply lucky we could contain it this time (so far).<p>There is a reason why every long-run solution to the prisoners dilemma is to cooperate. There is a reason why every society since antiquity has been based on society cooperation. The only long term stable solution is cooperation and eliminating free-riders who claim to be exempt from rules.<p>SV&#x27;s VC ethos was completely hollow.
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taxman22大约 2 年前
I can’t believe this narrative is at the top of HN. It’s disappointing.
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chad_strategic大约 2 年前
Hmm...<p>If I was a powerful VC I would have shorted the stock and then went to the latest Silicon Valley venture capital social hour event and made a point of mentioning I had with drawn my billions.<p>This plot right out of Billions.<p>Since I&#x27;m not material investor in SVB, I can&#x27;t see that this would be a red flag for the SEC?
davesque大约 2 年前
Wait, they&#x27;re trying to say that this was all the fault of the depositors? No, sorry. While I often find it hard to empathize with wealthy tech bros, I don&#x27;t have much trouble at all imagining myself doing the same thing.
asdfaoeu大约 2 年前
SVB didn&#x27;t fail because people pulled money, it failed because of a lack of risk management. Complaining about those pulling money out is silly. If anything they should have pulled it out much earlier.
vishnugupta大约 2 年前
Sequoia is conspicuously absent in that list. Knowing how dump their recent moves&#x2F;investments have been I&#x27;m very surprised. Anyone knows how did they manage to dodge this, if at all?
yafbum大约 2 年前
It&#x27;s weird that SVB, or any one particular bank, would be &quot;playing a pivotal role in serving the startup community&quot;. Loans are loans. The stories coming out about SVB &quot;sticking with the founders through tough times&quot; when none of the other banks would, well, they sound a bit like what you&#x27;d hear about a bank taking reckless risks with its lending practice.
dluan大约 2 年前
A list of VCs who did not learn game theory correctly
krick大约 2 年前
This is laughable. I won&#x27;t start on how it&#x27;s my money and all that jazz, so just one thing: keeping your money and your clients&#x27; money in a bank that is on the verge of a bank run is not a sign of valor, it&#x27;s either a sign of being stupid and irresponsible, or a sign that you know something that others don&#x27;t.
benatkin大约 2 年前
Contagions gonn contage.<p>If it was in a vacuum maybe they could have kept a lid on it. But I disagree that they should have stayed calm about it with what happened prior with TerraUSD, Luna, Celsius, and FTX. The length of the list shows that it would have been infeasible to collude to stay quiet.<p>This hall of shame feels like an ego trip.
petesergeant大约 2 年前
&gt; But those players within the venture capital community who were singularly responsible for triggering and then exacerbating this run will not escape accountability. Future founders will know your worth.<p>Future founders will know that the VCs helped them protect their cash?
kondro大约 2 年前
Call me naïve, but if I put money in a bank I should be able to get it back whenever I want. If I didn&#x27;t want it to be liquid, I&#x27;d buy something less liquid. The very concept of a bank run is ridiculous. If all a bank&#x27;s customers want their cash back, they should be able to get it back without affecting the liquidity of the bank.<p>Transaction accounts don&#x27;t earn me anything and have fees of their own. There&#x27;s little incentive to stay at one bank over another. If they want equity, they should sell long-term secured loans with LVRs under 100% or lock in my cash with term deposits or any number of other less liquid asset classes. But why should I feel guilt over moving my cash from one bank to another?<p>Maybe it&#x27;s because I&#x27;m Australian but I feel our banking industry is significantly more stable. The last time a bank had any serious issue was 1990 and it was a (single bank that itself was bailed out by the government). Australian banks make their money through mortgages (averaging less than 80% LVR or insurance-backed if higher and with fixed terms of generally no longer than 5 years), credit cards and management fees on long-term investment products -- they don&#x27;t rely on investing cash deposits on long-term illiquid instruments.<p>The fact this doesn&#x27;t seem to be the case should raise questions over the entire US banking industry. Cash should be liquid.<p>Edit: For reference, APRA (bank regulator in Australia) has some very strict liquidity risk management requirements and most banks own liquidity requirements are significantly higher than this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apra.gov.au&#x2F;apra-explains-liquidity-banking" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apra.gov.au&#x2F;apra-explains-liquidity-banking</a> -- an Australian bank would never be allowed to purchase a 10-30 year bond to match against cash assets.
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sky_rw大约 2 年前
It&#x27;s not immoral to yell fire in a crowded theater if the theater is in fact on fire.
periram大约 2 年前
Isn&#x27;t this one of the stable Nash equilibriums in game theory. You keep X of your X money if you withdraw, with a chance that someone else will lose their money OR you keep your faith in the system with a chance that you lose 100% of X.
mathattack大约 2 年前
The VCs did what they had to do. It’s poor financial management to not run for the door when the last one standing may be holding the bag.<p>I just find it strange that after all that SVB is using the bailout as marketing. “All your new dollars are safe too!”
adityaathalye大约 2 年前
Siren call for a VC Union? I&#x27;m only half-serious :)<p>Under the circumstances, I&#x27;d have pulled out money while I could. Money in hand is better than a hope in hell.<p>But seriously, I wonder if it makes sense to have <i>some</i> common ground to greatly reduce odds of SVB-likes happening?<p>Dealing with this kind of emergency is all about communication. The final collapse happened frightfully quickly. There is no time to organise when the car pile-up has begun. You got to have groundwork in advance, and comms open too.<p>Maybe its too black of a black swan that you can&#x27;t ever prevent. Maybe the competitive dynamics of the startup world do not lend support for a commons. Yet, maaaybe if <i>you</i> can see that your number one business partner&#x27;s books have become crazy, someone should be able to say something, at the very least?
vivegi大约 2 年前
You can&#x27;t blame the depositors or the VCs in this case for SVB&#x27;s failure. Only SVB was responsible for taking on naked long-term risk and being unable to meet current obligations.<p>At the time the VCs advised their portfolio cos to pull funds out of SVB, it was a perfectly rational reason because only 2.7% of SVB&#x27;s deposits were FDIC insured. That means, there was no guarantee of the Fed, treasury and FDIC would take the action to make good all depositors.<p>The entire site appears like something from an affected party (shareholder&#x2F;investor&#x2F;exec&#x2F;boardmember of SVB) who lost their shirt in this fiasco and has an axe to grind. Just saying. Not sure why the are not naming and shaming the former SVB execs and boardmembers who missed to identify these risks early on and mitigate them.<p>The failure of SVB is just capitalism, isn&#x27;t it? They risked their capital on a business that took bad decisions, so it is only fair that the specific company (SVB) ceases to exist and something else comes up to take its place.
dzhar11大约 2 年前
2020 Panic buying === 2023 Panic withdrawing <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Panic_buying" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Panic_buying</a>
Mizoguchi大约 2 年前
Every reasonable human being with money in SVB should be in this list.
gmd63大约 2 年前
As I post this, the original post has 360 points posted 3 hours ago and is ranked lower than a post with 260 posted 14 hours ago.<p>Interesting.
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pizlonator大约 2 年前
I don’t see the point of shaming these folks.
op00to大约 2 年前
I don’t understand the vitriol. It’s shitty, yes, but I honestly doubt the players are somehow blacklisted.
zemo大约 2 年前
seeing this here is funny because there are a lot of HN users that are VCs that don&#x27;t know how to code :)
ivraatiems大约 2 年前
All of this honor-amongst-thieves bellyaching is bullshit. I&#x27;m sorry. These are venture capitalists, emphasis on <i>capitalist</i>. The only thing they have ever or will ever care about is the amount of money a given action makes or loses them. That&#x27;s it, full stop. SVB lent to these people knowing that full well, and knowing the risks of relying on VCs for their long bets. They are to blame for their choices.<p>I have sympathy for nobody in this debacle, except maybe the federal government for having to clean up the mess.
aj7大约 2 年前
The board was asleep at the switch. They are now unemployable.<p>You’re dreaming.<p>Boards are mainly hired to do nothing in established companies.
mrinfinite大约 2 年前
Wow, sad. The only thing a bank run can be on is on &quot;DEMAND&quot; deposits. If you have a savings account or negotiate a similar thing then no bank run possible. A bank checking (called Demand Deposits) are to be fulfilled on DEMAND.<p>How dare customers demand their demand deposits. how rude, right?<p>All the bank had to do was upsell their customers into savings accounts and then no bank run is possible.
drc500free大约 2 年前
The amount of victim-blaming astroturfing I&#x27;ve seen on hn this week has been quite surprising. Depositors are never, ever to blame for bank runs.<p>Edit: From the about page:<p>&gt; Who I am is not important. Holding accountable the hypocrites responsible for Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse is. I can be reached at svbhallofshame@protonmail.com. All correspondence will be kept anonymous.<p>It&#x27;s just missing a PAC called something like &quot;Citizens for Depositor Accountability.&quot;
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w10-1大约 2 年前
Shame is toxic, but the issue <i>is</i> critical for startup&#x27;s and worth discussing.<p>Depositors making individual decisions? Ok.<p>Funds advising their companies? Ok, but it really hides the agency: deciders are in the funds (what CEO would refuse that advice?), but the companies are the responsible actors.<p>Now, would it matter if most of those funds were responding to their investors, say, Saudi&#x27;s or Russians or the Chinese Communist Party, or to a consortium of friends who had shorted the bank? Most would say it does matter, but AFAICT it&#x27;s perfectly legal, and no outsider would ever know the difference.<p>Market self-regulation, insurance, and investment diversification all depend on agents acting independently in their own interests, say, of making money.<p>Once agents are coordinating, or colluding, or have other dominant strategic interests, market self-regulation fails. And everyone else, who reasonably relied on the market behaving stochastically or in response to economic forces, loses.<p>One might hope that if this were all good, the response to a wall of shame would be a wall of honor, with transparency around decisions. But confidentiality is a key feature for any investment firms, so the best we&#x27;ll get are retrospective letters of intent.<p>Aside from bad actors, the irony is that high federal rates means more risk-taking from banks, not less. SVB assets were good and safe, albeit not worth much (as the auction is showing).<p>I would have no problem with new rules saying that firms with assets big enough relative to the bank needed to schedule major withdrawals in advance. There&#x27;s really no other reason than a bank run to move $100M emergently. (There&#x27;ll be a secondary market for large urgent transfers, but it won&#x27;t cost much, securitized with a pending transfer.)<p>So: yes the system is susceptible to bad actors, and there&#x27;s no good way to respond without throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Really society&#x27;s only defense is that the wealthy are getting wealthy enough legally that there&#x27;s no real need to go all-out.<p>Aside from the moral hazard of covering bank risks, there&#x27;s another moral hazard in creating opportunity and incentive for an already-confidential and largely unregulated industry to collude. It might push good investors into combines with bad actors, amplifying ill effects.<p>What&#x27;s shameful really is that these systemic gaps are relatively obvious to thousands of the involved engineer&#x2F;MBA&#x2F;JD&#x27;s, but everyone greedily grabs their local maxima, instead of insisting the system work right. That&#x27;s where I&#x27;d welcome leadership, some way to reduce coordination costs.
idopmstuff大约 2 年前
&gt; The board was asleep at the switch. They are now unemployable.<p>That&#x27;s not really how this works. The CAO of the bank was CFO of Lehman. People in these positions just get credit for the fact that they had a front row seat for this sort of financial implosion, so they can (theoretically) help whoever else&#x27;s board they join avoid that sort of thing.<p>&gt; But those players within the venture capital community who were singularly responsible for triggering and then exacerbating this run will not escape accountability.<p>The people in the VC community who triggered the bank run did the right thing by their startups. They don&#x27;t have a responsibility to SVB. If they saw a run on the bank starting, it was in their best interests and the best interests of the startups in which they invested for those startups to get their money out as quickly as possible.
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ar9av大约 2 年前
These people acted rationally. As soon as there was even a hint of &quot;this bank could fail&quot; it&#x27;s a no brainer to press a couple buttons on your app and transfer your money even if there is only a 0.1% chance of failure.<p>It&#x27;s just game theory.<p>The problem is when everyone acts to protect themselves from the 0.1% chance event it actually becomes a 100% likely event.<p>That&#x27;s why FDIC Insurance was invented in order to prevent bank runs and is why we have had so few in the hundreds years since it was invented.<p>The obvious solution is to waive the FDIC insurance caps and probably increase the cost of the insurance to make up for the increased risk of failure.
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tree24005大约 2 年前
Bank runs are when depositors rush to withdraw their money from the bank en masse.
mrinfinite大约 2 年前
Banks don&#x27;t have to issue demand deposit accounts if they want to invest your money while you &quot;loan it to them&quot;.<p>How rude for the contractual obligation of a bank be asked to uphold their end of the deal. thats rude and racist. customers at that bank were real jerks.