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Mark Zuckerberg: “Please Resign” (2010)

189 点作者 georgehill大约 2 年前

38 条评论

quocanh大约 2 年前
Do people on social media believe that all employees should freely share confidential internal information? Or is it that this is an email from a frustrated person and no one should ever share &quot;bad feelings&quot;? Or is it that CEOs should never be aggressive and &quot;how dare he punish someone who broke the rules&quot;?<p>Am I crazy for thinking that this is completely reasonable in context?
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Orangeair大约 2 年前
Having worked at a different FAANG (and more recently than 2010), I&#x27;m kind of on Mark&#x27;s side with this one. It got to the point where I worked that anything that executives said would be leaked pretty much immediately, so we hardly ever got any information ahead of when the general public did. From what people with longer tenures said, there used to be more information shared with the company at large, but they had to curtail it due to the constant leaks.<p>Obviously I don&#x27;t mind people leaking things that are cause for serious concern (i.e. whistleblowers), but yeah it results in kind of a crappy company culture when the people setting the direction for the company are afraid to share their plans with the people actually doing the work. Maybe that&#x27;s just inevitable for a company with a hundred thousand employees, though.
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zuzatm大约 2 年前
I was an intern in FB in 2010 and I distinctly remember getting this email. My full-time buddies, some of which included very senior engineers who often work with Mark, mentioned the got the shivers when they saw the title and thought they just got booted :)
danw1979大约 2 年前
I’m chuckling at the fact Mark thought they had “too much social good to build” to be dealing with leaks.<p>What happened, did things like this keep distracting them ?
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augusto-moura大约 2 年前
I think the post needs a [2010] tag, the article might be recent but the email is more than a decade old
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endisneigh大约 2 年前
With language models I won’t be surprised if it’s possible to create semantically equivalent but syntactically different text such that you can uniquely identify leakers.<p>Then you could send these out in a coordinated fashion to identify which group, if not person, is leaking.<p>The message says that they will find the leaker, but I doubt it (of course this is from 2010, so if they were found they have been for a while now).
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arjvik大约 2 年前
&quot;If you don&#x27;t resign, we will almost certainly find out who you are anyway&quot;<p>Is he really confident of this?
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bobleeswagger大约 2 年前
Usually I join in on the hatred for someone like Zuck, but this was a well articulated email that addressed the issue directly. I hope if someone did leak information intentionally that they did resign. Can&#x27;t feel good to be called out amongst tens of thousands of others and know it was you.
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hsjqllzlfkf大约 2 年前
&gt; If you believe that it&#x27;s ever appropriate to leak internal information, you should leave. ( ... ) We are a company that promotes openness and transparency, both in the world at large and here internally at Facebook.
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jaitsu大约 2 年前
These two sentences are at completed odds with each other:<p>1. &quot;We are a company that promotes openness and transparency&quot;<p>2. &quot;Let&#x27;s commit to maintaining complete confidentiality about the company—no exceptions&quot;
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tyingq大约 2 年前
It&#x27;s interesting that he didn&#x27;t consider the effect of all his employees seeing the email &quot;from:&quot; and &quot;subject:&quot; sitting in the inbox.<p>That&#x27;s a tense few moments before opening it for people.
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sberens大约 2 年前
Just to note, 3 years later they did release a phone: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;HTC_First" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;HTC_First</a>
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andrewmutz大约 2 年前
This post feels a bit like &quot;the dress&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_dress" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_dress</a>)<p>Half the commenters in here are saying this a completely reasonable thing for him to say, and the other half are saying this is completely unacceptable for a CEO to send out
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bilekas大约 2 年前
&gt; We have too much social good to build to have to deal with this.<p>I did laugh a bit out loud reading this.
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kazinator大约 2 年前
Summary: someone in the world spread a false rumor about Facebook, and Zuckerberg stupidly called it a leak, assuming someone one the inside is responsible, and should be let go.
yalogin大约 2 年前
Well, looking back, would they have been better off had they built a phone?<p>Tough to say, Mark doesn’t know how to build a device. However may be he could have made the device free in exchange for reaping all of user’s data. May be not. It would cost a lot of money and probably put google at a crossroads because apple and Facebook would then be positioned on either end of the spectrum with google not knowing what to do. I would have loved to see mark try to make a phone instead of Bezos.
mabbo大约 2 年前
Around the same time, summer of 2010, TechCrunch also reported that Google was making a ChromeOS tablet, which was going to be released in the next few weeks.<p>I was interning on the team building the first ever touch screen for ChromeOS, in Waterloo, ON. We had barely gotten anything working yet. It was all super early days stuff.<p>We all laughed at the article and thought nothing more of it.<p>I think TechCrunch was just basically throwing darts and seeing what hit.
hgsgm大约 2 年前
&gt; We are a company that promotes openness and transparency, both in the world at large and here internally at Facebook. That&#x27;s culturally important to us and I&#x27;m committed to keeping it. But the cost of an open culture is that we all have to protect the confidential information we share internally.<p>That&#x27;s quite hypocritical. &quot;We make our money spying on people. Spying will not be tolerated.&quot;
w_for_wumbo大约 2 年前
I can&#x27;t help but thinking whenever I see Facebook about the change that we could see in the world if the platform were able to prioritize connection and social cohesion. Enabling people to see things from new perspectives and discuss things freely and openly.<p>There&#x27;s so much power for good in the platform, which is being held back by the need to return a profit.
jmull大约 2 年前
“Let&#x27;s commit to maintaining complete confidentiality about the company—no exceptions.”<p>Zuck sounds like he has no idea what he’s doing?
elkos大约 2 年前
&gt; If we don&#x27;t, we screw over everyone working their asses off to change the world.<p>I work at a non-profit and wouldn&#x27;t dare to utter these words to any employee. I understand believing what you preach, but actually saying you work on &quot;changing the world&quot; in an internal email seems very problematic? Is it just me?
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amelius大约 2 年前
Building a phone would actually be a good move. There is just too little competition in this space and the only two players are hiding behind the duopoly so they don&#x27;t have to deal with competition laws. And for Facebook it means that they don&#x27;t have to comply with AppStore rules.
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d1str0大约 2 年前
Title should mention this is from 2010.
ravagat大约 2 年前
Nicely put email. I hope folks don&#x27;t disregard that when you&#x27;re in a leadership position this is one of the better moves to make especially as an &quot;initial&quot; move.<p>Different positions mean different contexts mean different actions.
curiousObject大约 2 年前
If an employee admits leaking they could be sued by Facebook.<p>I assume Zuckerberg understands that legal jeopardy so he did not honestly expect anyone to comply with this rant. It’s merely a position statement
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vcryan大约 2 年前
The most interesting part to me was the &quot;change the world&quot; rhetoric.<p>I&#x27;m always curious to what extent people in positions like Zuck believe their own bs.
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EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK大约 2 年前
But if that&#x27;s not true, how is that a leak? Anyone could have invented that lie.
kepler1大约 2 年前
Well, I mean in a sense it&#x27;s a laughable game that companies and their executives (and their employees) play, isn&#x27;t it? There&#x27;s a constant battle going on, and not just a little because of the company&#x27;s own choices, don&#x27;t you think?<p>Company X wants to keep plans and products confidential and internal, yet at the same time, wants to achieve world domination and penetration of its products to all the world&#x27;s users. Somewhat inevitable to be in conflict, these goals, especially when you start to have on the order of 100,000 people you hire to be able to take over the world.<p>And I get the frustration, but not the outrage of executives. You created this human-based organization to power your capitalist (in the best sense) ambitions -- don&#x27;t imagine that you have full control over it, especially if your past actions have created a culture that doesn&#x27;t trust your publicly stated intentions fully.<p>And just to caricature even more, boo-hoo, my problem is that the media got told my huge company is building a phone, but we&#x27;re not. Cry me a river. It&#x27;s the greatest injustice humanity has ever experienced.
enteeentee大约 2 年前
“We are a company that promotes openness and transparency“ except we aren’t.
MattGaiser大约 2 年前
Did they ever find out?
susrev大约 2 年前
&gt; Confidential—Do Not Share<p>&gt; We are a company that promotes openness and transparency, both in the world at large and here internally at Facebook.<p>The irony of these two statements being separated by three paragraphs made me lol
nixass大约 2 年前
Did they ever find the person?
quasarj大约 2 年前
I don&#x27;t understand - if they weren&#x27;t building a mobile phone, then there was no leak, right?
anonymous344大约 2 年前
why is hacker news full of clickbait headlines?
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hardware2win大约 2 年前
It seems reasonable tbf
reactspa大约 2 年前
Seems like a case of burnout.
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zinodaur大约 2 年前
I love it! So petulant and conceited. It&#x27;s great to hear what these CEOs are like without the Corpo-speak PR filtering system
m1117大约 2 年前
Isn&#x27;t this publicity good? I think whoever leaked that to press gave Facebook a favor. He could&#x27;ve twitted, &quot;Fake news, we&#x27;re not building a phone&quot; and that&#x27;s it.
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