GOOD Meat gets green light from FDA for cultivated meat

Aren&#x27;t there good arguments[1] that lab-grown meat is a long way from being cost-competitive due to fundamental thermodynamic reasons?<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thecounter.org&#x2F;lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thecounter.org&#x2F;lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-sca...</a><p>Associated discussion on HN: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28621288" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28621288</a>

How does the energy consumption of the bioreactors stack up against live animals?<p>There’s two different opportunities here — a suffering-free meat substitute and a meat substitute with a lower carbon footprint.<p>This can get us closer to the former, but it’s not obvious it gets us closer to the latter.

The food industry is highly regulated. A couple of key points:<p><i>“The key takeaway here is that with this landmark decision, we are now the first company with cultivated meat approvals in two countries – the US and Singapore,” Eat Just VP and head of global communications Andrew Noyes told AFN. “And we’re the only company in the world that has ever sold to consumers.”<p>In the US, the FDA regulates cell collection, banking, growth and differentiation for cultivated meat and poultry. Regulatory oversight then switches to the USDA once the cells are harvested and through the processing and labeling stages.</i>

I&#x27;m saddened that they are just growing chicken. It&#x27;s a safe and boring choice when they could be presenting endangered species burgers, pate, lark tongue, or other intriguing possibilities.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Transmetropolitan" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Transmetropolitan</a>

And yet they&#x27;re still using fetal bovine serum to grow the cells, according to the article.<p>There are plenty of better culture media options, I wonder why they&#x27;re not using them.

TIL: Eat Just (same company that makes Just Egg) owns GOOD Meat.

&gt;<i>The paste is “intended to be utilized as a human food ingredient to be mixed with other food ingredients” to make products such as chicken bites and boneless chicken breasts, said GOOD Meat, which combines cell-cultured and plant-based meat in its products sold in Singapore.</i>

As long as it is properly and fully labeled, so that people can know whether or not this product is used in what they are eating...<p>I wonder to what extent the patents expiring as mentioned in the article, have led to this push?

Cultured meat is a good idea in theory, the end result depends on the exact implementation of course. Cultured meat is coming, you can already get it in selected restaurants in Singapore and Israel. It makes sense to combine protein consisting of real animal cells with plant food, both to bring down costs and for environmental reasons. They could also market it as more healthy I guess, although opinions regarding that will be divided of course.

I always preferred the moniker &quot;clean meat&quot; over &quot;lab grown&quot; or &quot;cultivated meat&quot;. It&#x27;s the same material as meat, but without the ethical questions surrounding the factory production of meat.

Red light from me. There is a psychological aspect to food unfortunately.

Finally we have Soylent green. &#x2F;s

«GOOD Meat induces the ability for its adherent cell line to grow in suspension (“suspension adaptation”) through selective culture in the presence of bovine serum.» - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fda.gov&#x2F;media&#x2F;166348&#x2F;download" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fda.gov&#x2F;media&#x2F;166348&#x2F;download</a><p>Of course they use freshly-squeezed aborted calves: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fetal_bovine_serum?useskin=vector" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fetal_bovine_serum?useskin=vec...</a>

What the heck is the market for this stuff? I&#x27;m repulsed by it, and I&#x27;ve asked around. None of the people I know who eat meat are even vaguely interested in this either. I mean sure a cow gets slaughtered but the alternative being presented, with vats of barnyard-alien-maniamal (yes the lab grown franken-meat industry has gleefully stated culturing human meat is a goal) hybrids twitching and gibbering in their nutrient-piss fluid goo...<p>It&#x27;s just dehumanizing. Maybe that&#x27;s the point of this industry.