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US teens say they have new proof for 2k-year-old mathematical theorem

14 点作者 hackernj大约 2 年前

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karmakurtisaani大约 2 年前
Kudos for the kids for putting in the effort. However, without seeing any details (and no experts were cited in the article!) I would assume what was done was rather trivial. I suppose if you define the trigonometric functions using power series you could probably arrive to the result rather easily. I didn&#x27;t work out the details, but that would seem like an alternative way to get a handle to these functions without using any geometric ideas.<p>Edit: so they refer to a book by a math PhD for the claim that there is no trigonometric proof. The book is rather old, so maybe the information is outdated, but it does suggest it&#x27;s maybe not entirely trivial.<p>Edit2: wait, wouldn&#x27;t this just boil down to showing that sin^2 x + cos^2 x = (isin x + cos x)(-isin x + cos x) = e^(ix)e^(-ix)=1?<p>Surely you&#x27;d have to do a bit of work with the series to be able to write that, but looks like standard calculus.<p>Edit3: ok, so I dug a bit deeper and found that the book that is cited claims as a fact that you cannot prove Pythagorean theorem using trigonometric functions, since to use trig. functions you need Pyth. theorem. This is not true, if you start with series expansions. So I wonder if the story is that the kids relied on the book as a fact, did some calculus and proved their theorem. The teachers, not being mathematicians, took the book as face value as well (and here&#x27;s where the mistake happened) didn&#x27;t consult an actual expert before speaking to the press. Still, I&#x27;d say pretty nice job from the kids to actively pursue a mathematical problem, hopefully next time with a proper supervisor.
palata大约 2 年前
So we don&#x27;t know if anyone at all has reviewed their proof, do we? Sounds like at this point they are just claiming something.<p>I guess it will become interesting once it&#x27;s actually reviewed.
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kytazo大约 2 年前
Let me introduce Eleftherios Argyropoulos, a Greek mathematician, currently alive who has invented 520 different theorem proofs on the subject, and most likely counting...<p>You can check out his books, a brief excerpt of him, it is in Greek tho. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;yewtu.be&#x2F;watch?v=JaaDmEMsum4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;yewtu.be&#x2F;watch?v=JaaDmEMsum4</a>
abarker大约 2 年前
There&#x27;s a little more information in this Reddit thread [1]. In it someone references an earlier work by Jason Zimba [2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;math&#x2F;comments&#x2F;11zptjo&#x2F;an_impossible_proof_of_pythagoras_by_two_high&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;math&#x2F;comments&#x2F;11zptjo&#x2F;an_impossible...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forumgeom.fau.edu&#x2F;FG2009volume9&#x2F;FG200925.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forumgeom.fau.edu&#x2F;FG2009volume9&#x2F;FG200925.pdf</a>
capitainenemo大约 2 年前
The are many trigonometric proofs of the theorem.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cut-the-knot.org&#x2F;pythagoras&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cut-the-knot.org&#x2F;pythagoras&#x2F;</a>
replwoacause大约 2 年前
I wonder if they used ChatGPT?
JoeyBananas大约 2 年前
The AMS can&#x27;t stop getting high off their own farts