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Weber–Fechner Law

71 点作者 the-mitr大约 2 年前

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jiggawatts大约 2 年前
A practical application of this for computer people: performance improvements are imperceptible unless it is a large factor. Even &quot;laypeople&quot; will notice a 2-3x difference, but a series of 1.1x improvements adding up to 3x over time is generally not noticed, even by tech professionals.<p>So, I tend not to release performance improvements one-at-a-time. That&#x27;s a career-limiting move in the passive sense. Instead, I batch performance tuning changes and release several at the same time, which provides a much bigger &quot;bang&quot; for the users. The next morning, they&#x27;ll <i>notice</i>, write emails to managers with words like &quot;Wow!&quot; in it, and then you get promoted.
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Jun8大约 2 年前
Simply put: human senses work logarithmically (as a professor introduced it in an introductory signal processing course decades ago in my undergraduate). This is a fascinating law, that, if you assume it applies to all cognitive processes, can perhaps explain things like why one gets used to nice things and happiness goes down as we accumulate more stuff.<p>I’ve always thought that it’s also a powerful argument against the concepts of Heaven and Hell, as described in many religions, I.e. it’s impossible to continuously torture people or keep them ecstatic.
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abtinf大约 2 年前
A wild example of this is from a paper published ~10 years ago: researchers wrote a program that would display an image, then slowly change the color of a significant object in the image. It was an unmistakable change, like turning a big object red in a grayscale image. When the change was slow enough (IIRC ~20-30 seconds), it would become undetectable to human perception if the person stared at it—even when explicitly told to look for a change. They published a demo video and I remember shocking several people with it.<p>Can’t remember the link. I might have found it through HN.
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0x69420大约 2 年前
<p><pre><code> &gt; They were first published in 1860 &gt; Perceived loudness&#x2F;brightness is proportional to logarithm of the actual intensity </code></pre> impressively forward-thinking for the time, considering we went on to use dB for all sorts of amplitudes, including sound
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zharknado大约 2 年前
Reminds me of a talk arguing that drawing the number line in equal increments is counterintuitive coming from the context of the natural world.<p>The example: knowing whether there’s one or two lions in the bushes is a lot more important than distinguishing eight lions from nine!
NotYourLawyer大约 2 年前
Super timely. I was just wondering <i>today</i> if something like this might be the case for perception of light levels. I was putting up blackout curtains, and when I blocked most of the light but not all, it still seemed pretty bright.
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comment_ran大约 2 年前
If you&#x27;ve never run before, a 1K run may be your limit as a beginner. Running 2K can be quite challenging. However, after a year of running, a 9K or 10K run may feel no different from each other.
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dang大约 2 年前
Related:<p><i>Weber–Fechner law</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17301360" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17301360</a> - June 2018 (6 comments)<p><i>Weber–Fechner law</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5240806" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5240806</a> - Feb 2013 (1 comment)
vivegi大约 2 年前
Everyone notices a minimal user interface. They also notice when the minimal UI adds an incremental feature.<p>Case in point: Early Google search box and subsequent changes to the Google home page.<p>When features get tacked on to an app, users may just give up due to cognitive overload. Case in point Microsoft Word features or the current Google apps tucked under a link.
TeeMassive大约 2 年前
I wonder how AI models follow this law?
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