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China's Video Game AI Art Crisis: 40x Productivity Spike, 70% Job Loss

39 点作者 Al0neStar大约 2 年前

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anonzzzies大约 2 年前
Ah yes, and meanwhile here on HN, everyone keeps repeating AI is not ‘replacing anyone yet’ and no one has to worry. While people are getting axed and replaced by AI everywhere I look.<p>Examples:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35326865" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35326865</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35194986" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35194986</a>
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908B64B197大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m not surprised.<p>There&#x27;s a race to the bottom in the video game industry to farm content to &quot;best cost countries&quot;. Most man-hours aren&#x27;t spent on engineering problems but on gameplay and asset generation.<p>The Chinese industry is even more brutal in terms of the race to the bottom. Purchasing power is much lower than in the west and there&#x27;s barely any export opportunities, so the only way to make money is to crank out &quot;good enough&quot; games by having the same engine run with different assets.
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stuckinhell大约 2 年前
It&#x27;s definitely shocking, but creating a platformer in Unity with my entire family participating was amazing fun this weekend.<p>My husband and I coded it, and our kids had a blast creating the artwork in stable diffusion.<p>We then animated the avatars using another AI based on the vidoes of the faces our kids made. We created a whole game fairly easily.
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rcarr大约 2 年前
Video game and movie illustrators are completely fucked which is sad. Very interested to see how this plays out in the comic&#x2F;graphic novel space. I could theoretically see the big hitters getting behind human artists for the marketing points, but if some new or smaller comic book studio starts churning out AI content and it takes off they might be forced to follow suit. I think a lot of this might depend on how comic book stores themselves operate e.g if they also get behind the artists and refuse to stock AI generated works. But I don&#x27;t know how many people are buying comic books from stores vs online, as a relatively outside observer it seems to be one of the only types of retail businesses that seem to have stood up pretty well against the online onslaught, probably because of how much they operate as a community hub.<p>Other prediction: Theoretically anyone with a semi-interesting TTRPG campaign could just feed in their weekly adventure into the program and have a comic book generated from the results. We could end up with a Soundcloud style situation but instead of songs there&#x27;s 100,000 new comic books being generated a day. From there, it&#x27;s not a stretch to say the same is going to happen to movies, because once you&#x27;ve got the comics (which are essentially storyboards) and the technology gets perfected for video, it&#x27;s probably not a lot of effort to feed the comics into the AI and have it generate the movie.<p>Will be interesting to see how the quality vs quantity dynamic plays out. Either we&#x27;ll start consuming more content from local creatives and indie studios or there will be so much dross to sift through we&#x27;ll happily pay globo corps more money for the highest quality stuff. It&#x27;ll probably be somewhere in the middle. At the minute, I&#x27;m about 8 episodes into Critical Role&#x27;s 2nd Campaign and questioning why I even still have Netflix when I can access entertainment like this for free on Youtube.
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chrisbrandow大约 2 年前
We’ve always had cognitive jobs to fall back in when previous automation advances displaced jobs.<p>It is not clear what happens when the fallbacks are more manual work that currently does not pay a lot.
dahwolf大约 2 年前
Consider creative&#x2F;content jobs such as illustrators, freelance writers, translators as a spectrum or perhaps a pyramid.<p>A big part of that pyramid is mass produced &quot;good enough&quot; output that was already squeezed before AI. That part will be almost entirely replaced with generative AI operated by a relatively tiny group. And with &quot;will&quot; I mean right now. The top of the pyramid will be semi-safe but production methods will still drastically change.<p>I&#x27;m not convinced of the &quot;we&#x27;ll just create new jobs&quot; narrative. From land to factory to office. What would be the next step in this cycle? I&#x27;m talking a billion people, not 3 super AI coders overseeing things.
falcolas大约 2 年前
Imagine being a concept artist - basically a professional Photoshop compositor - in the face of Dall-e and crew.<p>Imagine being a script writer - taking other people&#x27;s ideas and creating a script - in the face of GPT.<p>Imagine being a D&amp;D campaign writer. Technical writer. Tier 1 support.<p>Any job that involves the previously tedious work of transforming ideas into writing or images.
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ulfw大约 2 年前
We are all fucking ourselves and our future.<p>AI will take every single job away until there&#x27;s only a small sliver of &quot;owners&quot; who will eventually sell to fewer and fewer consumers.<p>Oh sorry yes downvote me. I forgot. I am on Hackernews, were we blindly run after all technological progress even if it&#x27;s detrimental to real life society.
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qwery大约 2 年前
It should be obvious that `Thing` generating tools&#x2F;machines will displace&#x2F;replace `Thing` generating humans as soon the tool meets the employer&#x27;s threshold of affordability&#x2F;quality&#x2F;speed. This is how capitalism works and you don&#x27;t have to be a communist to understand or accept that.<p>With that said... <i>Forty times!</i> ... <i>Seventy percent?!</i> ... This seemed a bit extreme, so I had a look through the source article[0] to try and find out what these claims and figures (40x, 70%) were based on.<p>The <i>40x productivity spike</i> is drawn from a professional illustrator&#x27;s claim that without AI tools, an illustrator could draw one piece in a day, but &quot;with the help of AI, they could make 40 a day for their bosses to choose from.&quot; <i>(quoted from article, not direct quote from the illustrator)</i><p>The <i>70% job loss</i> is similarly based on a single individual&#x27;s claim. They reckon that illustrator jobs (listings?) dropped by 70%, with no indication of how they arrived at that figure. Furthermore, although they are assigning blame to the AI tools, they think that &quot;regulatory pressures and a slowing economy&quot; are the primary causes.<p>To be clear, I&#x27;m not saying that either of these people are doing anything wrong. The reporting could be a little more critical, but this is not unexpected these days. The readers could be a little more critical as well...<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;restofworld.org&#x2F;2023&#x2F;ai-image-china-video-game-layoffs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;restofworld.org&#x2F;2023&#x2F;ai-image-china-video-game-layof...</a>
GaggiX大约 2 年前
I&#x27;ve seen impressive work done with AI in these Chinese companies such as: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;NIKKE_en&#x2F;status&#x2F;1607331147452911622" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;NIKKE_en&#x2F;status&#x2F;1607331147452911622</a> (dec 2022), although I have a keen eye for AI-generated content I couldn&#x27;t figure it out, it&#x27;s funny that people use AI to detect AI.