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SUVs more dangerous to cyclists than other cars, study suggests

121 点作者 kitkat_new大约 2 年前

14 条评论

dathinab大约 2 年前
Idk. about the US but where I live in the EU a _lot_ of people think that driving a SUV without needing the off-road capabilities is at least egoistic if not outright asocial.<p>And given that this area (and many others) have &quot;good enough(1)&quot; streets so that the huge majority of people don&#x27;t need the off-road capabilities of a SUV it&#x27;s pretty easy to be for people to assume that you are egoistic or worse when they see you driving a SUV.<p>This bias is probably reinforced by the coincidence(?) that the group of people driving SUVs here has a big overlap with some groups often associated with entitled egoistic behaviour.<p>Somehow it often feels that the people insisting on driving a SUV without a need for it are using it like an armor they ware because they are afraid of the outside world.<p>(1): The requirements for a road to not need a SUV are pretty low IMHO. Sure you might need a &quot;good enough&quot; ground clearance, motor and brakes in mountain areas, but you can get that without an SUV, many (most?) new non-sport cars fall into this category.
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suzzer99大约 2 年前
It&#x27;s not just cyclists. A year ago I saw a middle-aged couple both go up onto the hood of a Prius that was rounding a right turn without looking. I think they were both fine. If it was an SUV they&#x27;d have been knocked forward so hard they&#x27;d have been seriously injured or killed.
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crooked-v大约 2 年前
See also the video essay &quot;These Stupid Trucks Are Literally Killing Us&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;jN7mSXMruEo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;jN7mSXMruEo</a>
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sandworm101大约 2 年前
The old reason for driving a smaller car&#x2F;truck was reduced operating costs, mostly in fuel. That reason largely disappears for electric vehicles. In fact, electric vehicles are larger&#x2F;heavier than ic equivalents. This problem of huge vehicles is only going to get worse. We will all have to learn to live with more massive vehicles.
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nayuki大约 2 年前
&gt; While cars tend to vault cyclists over, SUVs with large front ends run them down, resulting in more head injuries<p>This is the perfect excuse for pro-car people to shout &quot;But was he wearing a helmet?&quot; in response to any incident where a car crashes into a cyclist.
fooker大约 2 年前
If it’s a reasonable option, most people end up choosing a large vehicle.<p>(Note than large vehicles are not a reasonable option in cities with poor auto infrastructure.)<p>It’s a classic tragedy of the commons situation, would you rather buy a car safer for you and your family or buy a small car hoping the world changes overnight?<p>If you disagree, the car companies must also be very wrong about what the customers want, because they keep making bigger and bigger cars and people keep buying them.
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nikanj大约 2 年前
The sane solution: ban massive cars, give exemptions to people with true professional needs<p>The ’murica solution: get an even bigger truck yourself, so the other party sustains most of the damage
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olivermarks大约 2 年前
IHSS insurance institute for highway safety are a credible organization but I agree it is a surprisingly small sample size and analysis. Urban, suburban and rural cycling also have very different risk factors.<p>Regarding vehicle size, driver visibility of surroundings is more critical. I&#x27;m not a fan of huge SUVS but I don&#x27;t have 4 kids and 2 dogs. Being hit by a commercial vehicle on a 2 wheeled vehicle is going to be bad, but I&#x27;d argue generally commercial drivers pay more attention to their surroundings than the typical soccer mom, far better training and regulations.<p>I also feel distractions play a large part in many collisions - the replacement of analog tactile knobs and dials in cars with giant flat screens is a major safety setback - and of course smartphones are a disaster for distracted driving.<p>(replying to a now deleted comment)
markus_zhang大约 2 年前
Not surprising. SUVs are larger and heavier vehicles so they carry more KE at the same speed. My city has dedicated cycling lanes but they don&#x27;t cover every place. I sincerely hope they do.
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ummonk大约 2 年前
I assume they aren&#x27;t counting crossovers as SUVs here? Because crossover front ends more closely resemble the front ends of cars than they do those of trucks.
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mongol大约 2 年前
Suggests? I could have suggested that too. It does not take much thinking to do. Is there a ladder of words used, where proves is highest? If so, where does suggest go?
explorer83大约 2 年前
If you read the actual study it actually shows smaller vehicles hit bicyclist more often than SUVs by a large margin. But that SUVs cause more harm when they are hit. So SUVs actually hit less bicyclists.
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32gbsd大约 2 年前
Well there&#x27;s a suprise, but what if its electric? Being electric it would have better avoidance tech.
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xyzelement大约 2 年前
Obviously vehicle safety is an important consideration, but I find that any &quot;large car&quot; thread brings out almost pathological vitriol.<p>I wonder if the vitriol is a reaction to something that these cars represent: large families, folks with land&#x2F;property&#x2F;&quot;manly&quot; business, etc.
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