One decade later, GNOME still sucks

Yet so many distros choose it as the default. I feel like I am being gaslit by the entire linux community, am I crazy for not liking it? Unless you live in a browser and only a browser, KDE makes so much more sense.

I use GNOME every day. What I like is that it isn't to much. The main use to me of any window manager is to use my mouse as little as possible, be able to tweak all of the underlying hardware and peripherals and get access to my tools with as little interaction as possible. And I want it to "just work" whether it is my home desktop with 4 monitors, or my 14" desktop. GNOME delivers just that for me. Nothing more and nothing less. Of course this is just my humble opinion.

I use it every day on my work RHEL workstation, it is OK. There are better options but on the latest RHEL some applications will break if not using GNOME3, so that is why I use it.<p>But my issue is with desktop.org pushing Wayland. The BSDs are struggling with this and I do <i>not</i> like desktops. Given a choice between twm and GNOME, KDE, XFCE ... whatever DE, I will use twm any day. I use fvwm and cwm, depending on monitor size, cwm for small screens.<p>Right now all you have with Wayland are Desktop Environments and Sway. I would chose KDE or GNOME over tiling WM any day. This my main issues with desktop.org

My current biggest complaint is apps putting widgets in the title bar area. This would be less common if they hadn&#x27;t made the title bar ridiculously huge in the first place. But now I find it hard to drag a window because first, I&#x27;m not sure where the title bar is. And worst, because some of those widgets will not drag the app if you click&#x2F;drag them.<p>Second up is that tabs are little disconnected buttons rather than looking like a little tab attached to something. Other than these 2 things I would say gnome 4 is better than 3. Some of my old complaints are still there, but overall I&#x27;d say its getting better with few exceptions like these WTF items.

I love gnome. It’s more keyboard driven than macOS or windows. It’s streamlined. You just need to mod it a bit, and you can mod it to suit your preferences. Yet it isn’t over-configurable like kde. The only issue for me is the performance slows down if you don’t reboot periodically

The ~10 years I was exclusively on Linux, I was using Xubuntu. It was glorious to go so long without a UI change. Every feature added beyond what xfce offers out of the box is a step backwards. Windows 95 was the pinnacle of desktop UI.

I really floundered when Ubuntu 10.04 got to end of life. My personal issue with Gnome 3 was that the way I worked involved one workspace with lots of open PDFs.<p>Because they all looked similar on a thumbnail, I tended to use their filenames to identify them. The 2D workspace unfortunately shuffled them around as they moved between rows, and it preferred thumbnail over filename.<p>Basically I needed the 1D taskbar with filenames and that&#x27;s what worked for me.<p>I floundered via Unity, Fedora, eventually settling on crunchbang for a while. I tried gnome fallback and flashback but they were deficient.<p>One day MATE appeared, and I have never appreciated a well-honed DE so much.

I switched from macOS to Fedora&#x2F;GNOME three years ago, and I&#x27;m perfectly happy with it. I&#x27;ve seen useful features added and improved in that time. One day I&#x27;m going to give KDE a serious try, but GNOME does almost everything I like the way I like it out of the box.<p>There&#x27;s tons of desktop environments to choose from. I don&#x27;t get why so many people seem personally offended by GNOME when all you have to do is choose something else.

Weird, I&#x27;ve been using it every day for years and it&#x27;s fine. Maybe you mean that it doesn&#x27;t work for you?

Agreed. Every time I installing a fresh new machine, I try it out again. It is always terrible.

What is the best Gnome2 fork these days? I remember using Mate back when I couldn&#x27;t stand Gnome3 - is it still the best alternative?

Used this for a few years now, there are some glitches, if you know how to tweak these, it&#x27;s very good.

gnome is a good option for a lot of users.<p>i also find it annoying, and don’t use it. this is fine.<p>i’m glad gnome continues to thrive. it is for great good.