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Show HN: A search engine for your personal network of high-quality websites

266 点作者 vignesh_warar大约 2 年前
Hey all,<p>Last time when we were on HackerNews [1], we received a lot of feedback, and we incorporated most of it.<p>- We have changed our name from grep.help to usegrasp.com<p>- A privacy policy page<p>- Bulk import<p>- Pricing page<p>We are happy to introduce a new feature: a personalized answer search engine that provides direct citations to the content on the page.<p>Demo: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;usegrasp.com&#x2F;search?q=is+starship+fully+reusable%3F" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;usegrasp.com&#x2F;search?q=is+starship+fully+reusable%3F</a><p>1 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35510949" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35510949</a>

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airstrike大约 2 年前
Minor nit but I can&#x27;t help notice it: the logo doesn&#x27;t really match the product. Typography choices evoke certain feelings and attributes. Your choice to me says &quot;women&#x27;s* beauty &#x2F; personal hygiene&quot;, not &quot;find whatever you want at your fingertips&quot;<p>Short of hiring a designer (and also for fun), may I suggest watching the Helvetica film? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;570441741" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;570441741</a>
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chaxor大约 2 年前
Wow, if 4 degrees out doesn&#x27;t give 70k nodes it&#x27;s extended to 7 degrees out? I figured almost any website would yield a near complete graph at just ~6 degrees out.<p>This is a fantastic idea though. I have been looking for something like this for quite some time to just have basically wikipedia, stackexchange, email, and gitlab available for &#x27;work-mode&#x27;. My solution was to make my own search engine with various tools, but this may be easier.<p>Anyone know of other good solutions in this area for restricting to just {wikipedia, stackexchange, gitlab}?
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marginalia_nu大约 2 年前
Cool. We definitely need fresh takes on search.<p>I think historically too many have been attempting to copy Google. It was a bad idea when they were great, and it&#x27;s a worse idea when they&#x27;re floundering. An imitation very rarely exceeds what it imitates. Is why after untold amounts of Microsoft R&amp;D money Bing is still google-but-kinda-worse.
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aflag大约 2 年前
I think the top element with the LLM response is a bit distracting, since it takes so much longer to load than everything else. I think it&#x27;d be nicer if it was on a side panel or, at least, that the block allocated to it was fixed and the results didn&#x27;t keep jumping around as the output for that is generated. Also, it seems odd that sometimes the citation numbers don&#x27;t start at 1 (as you can see if you search for &quot;vscodium marketplace&quot;)<p>Finally, just brutally honest feedback. I found the concept interesting and I would actually take it for a spin. However, you can only make a few queries before it asks you to sign up. I didn&#x27;t find it that interesting to actually sign up just yet. So, I&#x27;ll probably never truly try it out.
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passion__desire大约 2 年前
Why isn&#x27;t there a search engine specifically for e-commerce websites?<p>Generally what I do is I search for X on google. Google throws up some shitty suggestions. I go on to those websites to checkout their products. Facebook comes to know about my intent of buying X since they have their sdk integration with these websites. When I open instagram, facebook starts suggesting X selling websites to me. I check out those and buy X from there.<p>I have observed this effect 3 times personally.<p>Infact such a search engine will optimize towards a better buying experience. Reviews, best things to look for when buying X, price sensitivity, whether X can be delivered to your area, etc.
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goy大约 2 年前
What do you think about a feature that allows users to follow each other ? The websites followed by one user can be automatically included in the search results of his followers. It will enable people to include in their networks the websites followed, for example, by authorities in their domain, members of their communities, etc
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Brajeshwar大约 2 年前
May be it is just me and I&#x27;m sure you have put in good effort to justify the pricing. However, that $10+ makes me think, “Do I really need this? I can stay without this and am I missing anything, perhaps from gaining something outsized?”<p>If this was like $4.99 &#x2F;mo with an annual of $49.99, I might have just done it; even if I may not use immediately but to support someone starting out.<p>Or alternatively, a $9.99 &#x2F;mo ($99.99 annual) would still be something within a budget that I&#x27;m not over-thinking.<p>My thoughts.
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xpe大约 2 年前
This search engine charges beyond the free tier. I’m glad.<p>Why? An observation. As a consumer, if I pay nothing, then I’m likely to undervalue a service. When I undervalue it, I’m likely to use it less mindfully. Ergo, for more frivolous and unimportant things. This is exactly what some advertisers want: your attention without conscious intention. This is where emotions overrule rationality and open the doors to unnecessary spending.
abhayhegde大约 2 年前
Nice site! Gave me useful suggestions which Google could not come up with.<p>A suggestion is to change the logo. Currently, it does not make a lasting impression since it is in cursive. Seems like a fashion brand rather than a tech product. I understand there is no need to stereotype (probably this is the one to break them), but even then fashionable alternatives could be tried out.
ThinkBeat大约 2 年前
You can do this with Kagi and &quot;Lenses&quot;. Lenses lets you define a set of websites you want results from.
darkwater大约 2 年前
Oh, TBH I was expecting some kind of opensource, local-first scraper + search engine where you put a list of websites&#x2F;info source &quot;bubble&quot; and it will scrape them over time and present them to you locally.
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gumballindie大约 2 年前
A cool idea, but what I don&#x27;t understand is why are many alternative search engines so poorly designed? I may be too used to google but I think the text should be a bit more readable. But I really like this type of search engines - always wanted search capability among my bookmarks and related websites. Perhaps even a bit of ai fine tuning around them.
chinchilla2020大约 2 年前
This is great. Google is no longer a useful search site.<p>Examples: * too much emphasis on awful video spam * SEO and spam has floated to the top * imprecision in search<p>I recently searched for some simple instructions for jumping a car battery, and it was hard to find a decent website.<p>Try searching for a simple recipe for cookies on google and you will get directed to the most awful blogs where the information you are searching for is hard to find.<p>There should be a ranking bonus for simplistic sites. A massive bonus for simple explanations given on a forum or stackoverflow... organic content that is useful and not regurgitated into a blog.
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ghastmaster大约 2 年前
There is a grammatical error on this page: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;usegrasp.com&#x2F;how" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;usegrasp.com&#x2F;how</a><p>&gt; We will more social features in the future.<p>This should have some verb after &quot;will&quot;.
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smcleod大约 2 年前
The quality of the results seems really poor compared to Kagi. It seems to favour commercial &#x2F; privately owned product sites over community information etc...
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neuah大约 2 年前
This looks really cool! It could be useful to be able to whitelist some sites without the 4 degree connection. For example, if i wanted to include large networks like reddit, github, stack overflow,etc. in my search results, 4 degrees may start to bring in a lot of junk&#x2F;undesirable stuff into the index. Also love the idea of being able to follow or search within curated lists made by other users.
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killthebuddha大约 2 年前
ChatGPT plugins aren&#x27;t out of beta yet, but this is 100% going to be eaten by one.<p>Edit: I guess that&#x27;s not a super productive comment. I commend the authors for building and shipping something useful, I would personally use something like this.
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avinassh大约 2 年前
hey I just want to let you know that you need to update title and meta properties too. Whenever the link is shared on social media, it still says grep<p><pre><code> &lt;!DOCTYPE html&gt;&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;meta charSet=&quot;utf-8&quot;&#x2F;&gt;&lt;title&gt;Grasp | New kind of search engine&lt;&#x2F;title&gt; &lt;meta name=&quot;title&quot; content=&quot;Grep | New kind of search engine&quot;&#x2F;&gt;&lt;meta name=&quot;description&quot; content=&quot;Search engine for your personalized network of high-quality websites&quot;&#x2F;&gt;...</code></pre>
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timwaagh大约 2 年前
What i do not understand is how it works. I had not followed anything yet it gave me a result. But the search results seem to be allright. It even had recipes for andijviestamppot.
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marban大约 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;biztoc.com&#x2F;search" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;biztoc.com&#x2F;search</a> — Top ~300 US business news sites only.
stringlytyped大约 2 年前
This looks like an amazing tool. I&#x27;ve always thought it would be great if I could curate my own search index. And the way results are summarized with citations is really cool.<p>However, I am not sure the free plan is generous enough to properly evaluate the search engine and see if I can incorporate it into my workflow. And the pricing feels steep. I would have a look at Kagi&#x27;s pricing model.
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dvh大约 2 年前
Can this index entirety of stackoverflow and Wikipedia? How does it keep it in sync with recent updates?
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xpe大约 2 年前
Let’s help suggest pricing models that are worth testing.<p>… Not simply the minimum we as individuals would pay…<p>but something to help improve chances of success increase innovation and competition in this space. As a former creator of a search engine, I’m glad to see this.
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anenefan大约 2 年前
Do I have to relax my OS security for it to get data from the local machine or using a new version of linux ... since I got nothing for each query?
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pkoird大约 2 年前
How wonderful itd be if we could <i>subscribe</i> to the network of our friends &#x2F; colleagues as well?
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KomoD大约 2 年前
&gt; we charge a small fee to use Grasp.<p>Do you consider $15&#x2F;mo small?
visarga大约 2 年前
For me it does the search but hangs forever on the LLM.
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