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Story: Redis and its creator antirez

589 点作者 nixcraft大约 2 年前

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antirez大约 2 年前
Thank you to the author of this post, and to the nice comments here :) The story is well researched. There are a couple of errors and a few things to add maybe. I&#x27;ll fill the gaps in this comment.<p>1. After the TI99&#x2F;4A, that is indeed the first machine I used, I started to write serious code in a ZX Spectrum. Then, a few years later, I received my first MS-DOS machine: make sure to Google it if you are not from Italy, it was an Olivetti PC1 Prodest, the most strange MS-DOS compatible system EVER.<p>2. In Milan I was not fired, I quit myself to return in Sicily.<p>3. When I posted my first message in BUGTRAQ, it was davidw (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;user?id=davidw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;user?id=davidw</a>) that helped me.<p>4. It was often said that the MERZ port was for Alessia Merz stupidity. This is wrong: we liked the showgirl (I and my friend Oscar), and we liked the fact she replied lightly in the TV shows, she just tried to have fun, and for us this resonated with having fun while programming stuff without a purpose: in short HackValue. That&#x27;s why the Redis port is MERZ on the phone keyboard.<p>5. It is true that for many months I continued hacking on Redis even if I didn&#x27;t receive so great feedbacks, but back then one rarely hacked on OSS software hoping for success or money as a main outcome. It was just that day-to-day jobs mostly sucked, and you wanted something better, more interesting to hack on. At least for many of us the drive was just that. So I continued hacking on Redis even when it surpassed by a lot our LLOOGG needs.<p>6. The first design sketch of the Twitter Redis-based timeline cache was made by Rob Pointer (the author of the eggrdrop IRC bot!) and myself at Twitter HQ, on some random whiteboard.<p>7. WOHPE turned out to be one of the most read sci-fi books in Italy, among the ones written by Italian sci-fi authors in recent years. Initially the readers were mostly programmers but now a lot of sci-fi enthusiasts are reading it. It&#x27;s very strange that certain things written in the book now are becoming real fears, or even happened. For instance multiple readers of the English edition believe that this is likely the first accurate description of &quot;prompt engineer&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;antirez&#x2F;status&#x2F;1635022116654563334" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;antirez&#x2F;status&#x2F;1635022116654563334</a><p>8. Now I&#x27;m writing a new book but also programming again. I hope to continue with both the activities in parallel.
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ilrwbwrkhv大约 2 年前
A legendary hacker.<p>&gt; In February 2009, antirez&#x27;s friend David Welton helped him share Redis to the world on Hacker News. The response was pretty muted; apart from David, only four people responded. Three of them said there were already similar projects out there, and only one person responded positively and offered to help.<p>So don&#x27;t worry if you don&#x27;t immediately get traction.
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m3047大约 2 年前
&gt; his father started working with programmable logic controllers (PLCs), and his interest in these controllers led him to purchase a Z80 processor board and start programming on it<p>In the PLC world there is a notion of &quot;tags&quot;. These are values pushed or poked by PLCs with some kind of external (networked) access. They are essentially network-wide global variables. If you think about it for a little while this looks like key+value store. There are some common operations with tags: on&#x2F;off, counters, bit fields, along with static&#x2F;updating values. There is a notion that if a tag hasn&#x27;t been updated in a while it is &quot;stale&quot; or unreliable.<p>Although my POC deployment of RKVDNS (DNS Proxy for Redis <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;m3047&#x2F;rkvdns&#x2F;">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;m3047&#x2F;rkvdns&#x2F;</a>) revolves around SecOps &#x2F; DevOps &#x2F; DevSecOps, my horizon is SCADA and rationalizing the federation (edge) vs centralization (cloud) dilemma for observables, leveraging the reality that these days even (Purdue) Level 1 has DNS.
wolframhempel大约 2 年前
I feel the story of Redis is also a somewhat cautionary tale of the decoupling of value creation and value capture in open source - having a company monetize a product by someone else and ultimately employing its creator.<p>Now I understand that the people that are passionate about creating OSS are often less passionate about business and vice versa - and that some of the most successful tech companies have the Jobs&#x2F;Wozniak dynamic - but it still feels like an imbalance worth addressing.<p>But maybe I&#x27;m just cynical and lacking idealism. How&#x27;s everyone else feeling about this?
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lagrange77大约 2 年前
From his website <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;invece.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;invece.org&#x2F;</a>:<p>&gt; Artificial Intelligence will completely reshape our society very soon. If a universal income is not provided in a timely fashion (as AI makes many workers no longer relevant) we are going to be in big trouble.<p>I think about that very often these days. Governments worldwide must act on that <i>now</i>. Because even if they&#x27;ll start a legislative process to implement it, it will take a long time and we are running out of time.
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rahoulb大约 2 年前
I just want to add my voice to the many thanking antirez for Redis.<p>Back when I discovered it (probably through Resque), my mantra was &quot;NoSQL is fraud&quot; as I was yet to find a NoSQL database that I trusted with my data (yes, I know Redis isn&#x27;t strictly a NoSQL database - or at least wasn&#x27;t at the time).<p>But reading the docs and looking at how it worked, it shone through how carefully thought out and well-crafted it was. And this was without even looking at the source code (I haven&#x27;t done any C for years and doubt I would understand it anyway).<p>It&#x27;s amazing how that excellence shines through beyond the code and it&#x27;s still one of my go-to tools (I mainly work with Rails, so can&#x27;t avoid it to be fair) - so thank you again Salvatore.
ftxbro大约 2 年前
guys he is still here as user name antirez and he&#x27;s working on freakwan <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;antirez&#x2F;freakwan">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;antirez&#x2F;freakwan</a>
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boffinAudio大约 2 年前
I love Redis and what its done for the world but my favourite antirez project is LOAD81, which I think is just a few core modules away from being an amazing new platform for content sharing .. ;)<p>Imagine we have a network of LOAD81 users who share Lua bytecode instead of HTML .. hmm ..<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;antirez&#x2F;load81.git">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;antirez&#x2F;load81.git</a>
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frankwiles大约 2 年前
Half of the things I do to improve performance for clients involve Redis. If you haven’t played with it be sure to give it a chance.
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mlry大约 2 年前
I can&#x27;t help but to mention <i>kilo</i> [0], antirez&#x27;s exercise on writing a tiny editor. It&#x27;s presentation as a beginners project [1] into C and terminal programming helped me a lot in my understanding. Thanks a lot, antirez and Paige!<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;antirez.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;108" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;antirez.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;108</a> [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;viewsourcecode.org&#x2F;snaptoken&#x2F;kilo&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;viewsourcecode.org&#x2F;snaptoken&#x2F;kilo&#x2F;</a>
chucke大约 2 年前
It&#x27;s actually funny to see mentioned again, just like recently in a linus torvalds interview about git, how the &quot;ruby people&quot; contributed yet again to the massive popularity surge of an otherwise unrelated piece of software. It was definitely a special time, the ascension of that community.<p>And obviously, antirez and redis rock!
phreq大约 2 年前
It was great to read about you on HN! I once met you on AzzurraNet IRC, cool moments. Keep up the work that&#x27;s funny for you.
nutanc大约 2 年前
The funny thing is that Google Bard already knows about this story and can perform generative AI tasks on this like summarizing etc[1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;nutanc&#x2F;status&#x2F;1656533992785723392?s=20" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;nutanc&#x2F;status&#x2F;1656533992785723392?s=20</a>
pastacacioepepe大约 2 年前
antirez is the pride of Italy
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shubhamharnal大约 2 年前
What are the names of those 10 books!?
micheles大约 2 年前
Pity that I never met antirez in all this time. I first heard of him from David Welton who was a coworker of mine in 2004, well before the existence of Redis. But hope is not lost. For the moment, I think I will buy his book ;-)
ushakov大约 2 年前
Why didn&#x27;t antirez start his own Redis Labs? Seems like they&#x27;re exploiting his technical genius for their own good
dbeley大约 2 年前
Great write-up! I feel those stories of open source developers are really lacking in the space given the importance of their work.
cheerioty大约 2 年前
I smiled all the way through reading this. Thanks to the author and of course antirez for his amazing work.
ipaddr大约 2 年前
An open source success story. Many got rich from using the product and the author gets some fame
bosky101大约 2 年前
Wow, we&#x27;ll researched story.
shaky-carrousel大约 2 年前
The Hacker News response to Dropbox is probably the funniest ever.
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doh大约 2 年前
&gt; three of them said there were already similar projects out there<p>Quintessential Hacker News
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