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Bluesky Frustrations

43 点作者 GavinAnderegg大约 2 年前

11 条评论

DelaneyM大约 2 年前
The biggest frustration I have with Bluesky is the velvet rope and its consequences on community building.<p>I&#x27;ve been on the wait list since Feb 22, but for whatever reason I don&#x27;t have access. That&#x27;s just sour grapes, I know, but it also means that others who don&#x27;t run in the right circles also don&#x27;t have access. It means the community is intentionally exclusive and cliquey.<p>I don&#x27;t know what it is about tech that everyone wants to become the people who abused them in high school, but it&#x27;s a bad trend and we should be better. If invites aren&#x27;t going to be chronological they should at least be random. Invite people who are different intentionally. Otherwise we end up with another clubhouse-esque VC circle jerk.
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rchaud大约 2 年前
&gt; <i>People are having a great time! But I suspect this is because the service is currently small, simple, and centralized. Once the decentralized systems are in place, there’s a good chance it’ll be more confusing</i>.<p>Precisely! This is what has been ticking me off about the Bluesky love-in so far; it&#x27;s as if people are so desperate to call something &quot;new Twitter&quot; that they forgot the systemic factors around <i>why</i> Twitter turned bad.<p>Today, BSK is exclusive. Getting an invite gives one the ability to peer into what&#x27;s happening at the cool table. It&#x27;s invite-only, so most people there will be cool and not try to clickbait or build clout.<p>Problem is, Facebook was exclusive once too. It didn&#x27;t last. Twitter also was once just a quirky little online space. Then the Arab Spring happened and now everybody writes with an assumed gravitas, as if their 280 chars are going to be featured in a CNN story.
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mempko大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m happy with Mastodon and want the fediverse to succeed. I don&#x27;t want one single project controlling the fediverse. I have a feeling Bluesky is trying to Microsoft (embrace, extend, extinguish) the fediverse. Why? Because there is no clear way to make money off people in the fediverse. You can&#x27;t rent seek like the centralized services do. My sense is Bluesky is embracing federation the same way Microsoft embraced open source.
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ranger207大约 2 年前
Bluesky is going to be successful because of its current state of being invite-only and sponsored by Dorsey. It&#x27;s essentially the new blue checkmark: an indication that you&#x27;re part of the group of &quot;always-online Twitter powerusers&quot;. Once Bluesky opens up people will join because they either want to be part of that group or the people that you&#x27;d follow on pre-Elon Twitter are part of that group. Technology has little to do with it
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bhaak大约 2 年前
Most people are frustrated because they want to be on it but don&#x27;t get an invitation (me included).<p>I&#x27;m surprised how these old tricks still work very well.<p>If Bluesky can catch the journalist as Twitter did there is a good chance it can replace Twitter. Even though I saw some news outlet set up their own Mastodon servers.
hirundo大约 2 年前
&quot;These were hashtags, posts, or users the service thought I should see – and there was usually something in there that left me feeling worse.&quot;<p>I&#x27;d gotten into the habit of catching up on social media in bed before getting up in the morning. Then I noticed that I was getting up pissed off most mornings, so stopped the habit as an experiment. It was the difference between being my naturally cheerful self in the shower, and some species of low level rage monster.<p>I&#x27;ve spent a life as a voracious newshound and infovore but have come to see info-gluttony as somewhat analagous to calorific gluttony. The sources of calories really do matter. A more hygienic media bubble is a better place for me to live.
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rvz大约 2 年前
It looks like Bluesky is already in the lead of Twitter alternatives with fast growth and attracting normal users (not techies) and demand in less than a year after launching their app.<p>Users don&#x27;t need to &#x27;Choose a server&#x27; and aren&#x27;t confused on signing up and know how to use basic features like search and can find the users that are who they say they are. For BlueSky, two months with this growth in adoption is very early days.<p>But we will see what happens when the invite system is lifted and if the users are retained enough on BlueSky and what the users on Twitter will decide to move on to if Twitter gets &#x27;worse&#x27;. But it seems that BlueSky so far is winning amongst the rest of the other failed alternatives that have tried for years to challenge Twitter.
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mikeryan大约 2 年前
Serious question. The issue of public block lists comes up quite a bit. I’m not sure why this is a problem?<p>This could be me. I’ve always used social networks with an assumption that everything I did was public.
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cynix大约 2 年前
I wonder if Bluesky will be Clubhouse all over again: it was cool in the early days when invites are hard to get, but the novelty wears off quickly as it grows? Guess I&#x27;ll find out once I manage to get an invite :D
berkle4455大约 2 年前
Mastodon will fail simply because nobody is paid to work on the project and things the core team are not good at (like creating a good UI&#x2F;UX) will never happen. And that&#x27;s going to continue to be the perpetual hurdle to user adoption or anyone taking it seriously outside of tech circles.
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hobo_mark大约 2 年前
Person who never used a service has opinions about said service. Not much to see here.