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The Leverage of LLMs for Individuals

547 点作者 mazzystar大约 2 年前

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Ethan_Mick大约 2 年前
&gt; More importantly, it gives me the courage to dream and attempt things beyond my current abilities.<p>This is one of the small things that GPT has pushed me to do. I&#x27;m an experienced programmer and grew up playing video games, but I am <i>not</i> a game developer. I&#x27;ve dabbled over the years but can&#x27;t build anything outside of a tutorial.<p>The other day, using GPT I went through and made a Pixel Dungeon clone using Phaser (JavaScript game engine). It was such a delight. Together we got the game to a working state before I started to change some of the fundamental design, and then GPT started hallucinating pretty badly. When that happened, I stopped for the night, and then just started new focused conversations to add or change a feature, putting in the relevant code. It&#x27;s turn-based, with simple AI, enemy monsters, fog of war, line of sight, and a victory&#x2F;losing condition.<p>Being able to build this in a couple of days is an absolute game-changer, pun intended. I can only imagine the riches of experiences we will have as people are unblocked on skills and can pursue an idea.
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vemv大约 2 年前
There&#x27;s a long gap from:<p><pre><code> I built a podcast search website </code></pre> to:<p><pre><code> Staying in any company right now is a negative return. </code></pre> We humans are too easily impressed by tricks, and are too willing to extrapolate them to fantasy land.<p>GPT can certainly accomplish an impressive variety of small tasks. Whether it can build large-scale systems that will power tomorrow&#x27;s world is uncharted territory.<p>Can you build something meaningful, substantial, robust out of statistical knowledge, without real reasoning behind?<p>If you believe it&#x27;s possible, where&#x27;s everyone&#x27;s array of profitable, newly-founded ventures? Or at least have you automated your job away yet?
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lyair1大约 2 年前
I am happy that so many people get to experience the feeling me and other software engineers feel when we write code. OpenAI democratize some of this feeling and now people that never knew how to code can experience the rush of creating something new using code.<p>In a world where a lot of AI Researchers that develop these amazing models are slowed down by their lack of &quot;normal&quot; engineering skills I think it&#x27;s very apparent that software engineering goes well beyond writing a snippet of code.<p>Like the internet, stackoverflow, forums and other advances in technology that opened new doors and opportunity and democratized the industry - this is another one, a big one! the smart ones will use this push as an entry point to the software development world rather than looking for an oracle function for software development (which does not exist yet)
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geek_at大约 2 年前
Learning something with GTP-4 is so much more fun than using google&#x2F;Stack Overflow.<p>It&#x27;s like having a tutor that knows your code and gives you hints and solutions based on your actual project. It&#x27;s a real game changer for learning
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lynx23大约 2 年前
I feel we have been given a very valuable tool. I think the most sublte aspect for personal use is the freedom from having to ask seemingly stupid questions. It turns out there are a lot of interesting things on this earth. While a good education can prepare you for a lot, nobody knows everything. Asking seemingly stupid questions can be an issue for some. I have tried to cultivate this ability during my lifetime, and have practiced it with people I know are knowledgable in a specific field. But even with that, I catch myself feeling liberated to be able to &quot;privately&quot; ask questions that come to my mind in a more specific way then just firing up a Google search. A search is always more involved. True, I have to be on a different sort of guard when asking an LLM for an explanation for something, but it feels like very useful and time-saving for the quick introduction to something you just happened to think about.
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andai大约 2 年前
&gt; I even think that joining any team is a kind of slowdown. Only by sailing alone in a small boat can one maintain agility.<p>I&#x27;m reminded of this proverb:<p>If you need to go fast, go alone.<p>If you need to go far, to together.
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collaborative大约 2 年前
AI tools are absolutely useless once you get past any initial stage in a software development cycle<p>They just can&#x27;t comprehend what needs to be done even if all that&#x27;s required are 2 lines of code<p>However, we keep seeing posts from people who don&#x27;t know html or how to create a chrome extension paternalizing about how we can be much more productive with AI tools. Last I heard a CEO was demanding dev increased productivity or firing some devs because he saw a Youtube video about how easy it is to create a website now<p>The only usefulness I see is in AI replacing SO. Once SO dries we&#x27;ll have neither
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zackmorris大约 2 年前
Semi-serious question: how do we help those too old to begin the training?<p>When I went through profound burnout in 2019, the part of my brain that handles planning and execution shut down for about 6 months. I could barely get out of bed, brush my teeth, etc. The grieving process was rough, as well as the struggle to relearn how to function in a culture that doesn&#x27;t allow breaks. And it was physical, perhaps brought about by sleep apnea and digestive warning signs from stress that I ignored. I survived by separating the planning from the doing, by keeping todo lists and forming habits over weeks that began to rebuild the wounded parts of my psyche so that I could task and adult again.<p>I&#x27;ve since regained my executive function, but the experience changed me. The stuff that used to be automatic became manual, so work takes an even higher toll than it did before, and may even even have all-consuming qualities. I feel, institutionalized, like Brooks in Shawshank Redemption.<p>I know that AI offers a way to automate much of the doing, and within 5-10 years the planning as well. All I have to do is use it. But I&#x27;m just so tired physically, mentally and emotionally that the potential benefit feels like a burden. I struggle profoundly to make long-term plans or deal with the logistics around that. I will almost certainly miss this wave of innovation, just like I missed the VR, mobile and gaming bubbles before that. Living my most laborious life instead of my best life.<p>What I&#x27;m feeling deep down is that this time is different. AI should not be about personal empowerment. It should be about lifting others who are too infirm after a lifetime of hard work to do it themselves, so that they can rejoin the human race and make the contributions in their hearts that fulfill the promise of their self-actualization. I just don&#x27;t know where to go with that sentiment, or if my feelings are even relevant anymore.
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msoad大约 2 年前
I started using GPT-4 for writing ESLint rules whenever I do a code review and I feel it can be an ESLint rule. Simply give it the instance of &quot;bad&quot; and &quot;good&quot; code and let GPT-4 write both the ESLint rule and the unit tests for you. Initially I did a little touch up on the code before submitting. Like using `array.at(-1)` instead of `array[array.length - 1]` but now I do that with GPT-4 too. I say &quot;try using the latest JS features like Array.prototype.at&quot; and it finds other nice things to do too!
bostonsre大约 2 年前
Has anyone been able to use it to effectively build more than a green field poc? It&#x27;s absolutely great for that, but it&#x27;s been a little clunky when trying to iterate when the context gets too large or when trying to add stuff to am existing system.
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renjimen大约 2 年前
&gt; Staying in any company right now is a negative return; you are wasting personal leverage.<p>I think it&#x27;s a bit sad that the only benefit someone can see in their workplace is their salary.<p>Also, I get the feeling this person has never done anything outside of consumer app development with minimal stakeholder interaction.<p>Overall I think it&#x27;s great we can supercharge our learning and coding capabilities, but it would be naive to think knowledge and coding can let you do anything you want.
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seu大约 2 年前
&gt; Within 5 months, I single-handedly launched 5 iOS apps.<p>&gt; Staying in any company right now is a negative return; you are wasting personal leverage.<p>Isn&#x27;t it obvious that this doesn&#x27;t work if _everyone_ does it?<p>Also, if the bar we use to measure how useful a tool is for society, is that it allows an individual to release 1 app per month, then we&#x27;re doomed whether before AIs take over or not.
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anotherpaulg大约 2 年前
I have also been using GPT as a force multiplier for my coding, especially in areas where I&#x27;m less comfortable like frontend.<p>I put together a tool called `aider` for chatting with GPT-4 about code, having it make changes and keeping track of it all in git. It&#x27;s feeling like a very nice workflow.<p>@mazzystar you might want to give it a try if you have GPT-4 api access:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;paul-gauthier&#x2F;aider">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;paul-gauthier&#x2F;aider</a>
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collaborative大约 2 年前
AI tools are absolutely useless once you get past any initial stage in a software development cycle<p>They just can&#x27;t comprehend what needs to be done even if all that&#x27;s required are 2 lines of code<p>However, we keep seeing posts from people who don&#x27;t know html or how to create a chrome extension paternalizing on how we can be much more productive with AI tools. Last I heard a CEO was demanding dev increased productivity or firing some devs because he daw a Youtube video on how easy it is to create a website now
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mrbgty大约 2 年前
&gt;If you are an individual developer, the leverage it provides might be 10 times greater, but when you work for a company, that number might be only 2<p>These numbers are arbitrary and if you&#x27;re looking for leverage, a company with a lot of customers is a good way to find it.
croes大约 2 年前
I wonder if this is really a benefit for learning something.<p>A teacher who tells you the right answers doesn&#x27;t sound like a good teacher.<p>In hindsight I learned the most from my mistakes and the errors I&#x27;m to fix over longer period of time. Sometimes these failures were of use in later projects.<p>I missing all this from GPT. It doesn&#x27;t really sound like learning more like cheating.
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anonu大约 2 年前
Corporations serve a purpose - to organize human labor to fulfill a greater task that usually cannot be completed by an individual. So while I don&#x27;t disagree that GPT-4 in the hands of a layperson programmer may suddenly turn them into a 10x developer, I don&#x27;t know if that fact alone allows that individual to create great things.<p>In addition, there will be a great crowding out effect. If websites and apps are so easy to create now, there will be a deluge of junk to come. Every mediocre idea will be put forth.
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dsign大约 2 年前
I was watching yesterday the 2006 movie &quot;The prestige&quot;, with incredibly atmospheric locales that feel so alien. And yet, that world is but one hundred years away. It wasn&#x27;t until 1934 that the Public Utility Holding Company Act recognized electricity as a utility.<p>Less than one hundred years after that, we have managed to juice out a general digital intellect from humanity&#x27;s joint efforts. Let&#x27;s see if we survive the next one hundred years, but boy, way to go!
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DonsDiscountGas大约 2 年前
ChatGPT has been useful to me for learning&#x2F;looking-up a lot of things, although it sometimes drives me crazy. Often I&#x27;ll want to use libraries which are rapidly developing, and the training data ending at 2021 kills the accuracy. A webcrawler + chatGPT would be incredibly useful. So far I&#x27;ve only found tools designed for the web admin (finetune on your support docs + make a chatbot for users) rather than something designed for the end user.
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gmt2027大约 2 年前
There&#x27;s a lot of focus on AI taking away jobs. I believe it will constitute an existential threat to a lot of companies. Highly productive solo individuals and very small teams will outcompete large companies by leveraging AI. When capital requirements, transaction and information costs drop dramatically, the optimal size of a firm will change. I believe they will become dramatically smaller.
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jarenmf大约 2 年前
LLMs provide nonlinear leverage for experts. So far, I see them increasing the divide between developers or tech-oriented people and end users.
mensetmanusman大约 2 年前
This post reminded me that I’m still somewhat surprised ChatGPT-like systems did not arise out of China first due to their massive investment funds for AI and their base of stem talent.<p>Once they catch-up their censors will have a super power and people will have their writings censored before they hit submit.<p>Will be an interesting decade.
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usrusr大约 2 年前
“48 hours of conversation with GPT-4“<p>Heh, sounds like a novel form of torture. The author probably means 48 hours total over a (much) longer time, and it had all been an enjoyable ride of turbocharged learning and discovery, but that&#x27;s not how it reads to my eyes.
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zackproser大约 2 年前
What all are you using as your primary interface for ChatGPT et al LLMs? I&#x27;ve had some success with OpenAI&#x27;s default UI but mostly I&#x27;ve been trying out various community Neovim plugins.<p>I feel strongly that I want an in-IDE pair-programming assistant, but so far I&#x27;ve had at least one or more blocking issues with many of the currently available open source options.<p>NeoAI is great - for example - I&#x27;ve had it working well on multiple machines before - but today after a Neovim &#x2F; Astronvim update I&#x27;m getting errors about my quotas (which are fine) back from the plugin - and I don&#x27;t really have time to debug that because I need to get some work done :&#x2F;
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senko大约 2 年前
&gt; Current documentation is written for human reading, with a mix of text and code blocks that makes copying a poor experience. Perhaps soon, documentation and APIs will become GPT-friendly first.<p>Yes.<p>I have recently annotated my Pydantic models and fields with the explicit intention to use the resulting JSONSchema to inform GPT how to structure some information (in effect, writing a one-off client for an internal API I&#x27;m creating).<p>As a happy side effect, this is now better document (information about semantics of the data structure elements is closer to the definition of the structure itself, not in some external Markdown text file or in some walled-off wiki).
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cyrialize大约 2 年前
I&#x27;ve used ChatGPT for personal project planning. I like to use Trello for personal organization. I just prompt ChatGPT with things I&#x27;d like to work on.<p>For example, I&#x27;ve given a prompt akin to: &quot;Can you create for me a plan for organizing my email? It should be a list of tasks to be completed in 15-30 minutes. It should follow the S.M.A.R.T. format.&quot;<p>Then I gave it prompts to split all the tasks into single line sentences with a new line in between.<p>You can copy paste this into a card and Trello will ask if you&#x27;d like to split it up into multiple cards!
dahwolf大约 2 年前
The part that the author conveniently doesn&#x27;t go into is income, other than mentioning that people sitting in companies are stuck there because they need the income.<p>Well, this very concept applies to you too, dear solo captain. Nobody is going to pay you any money for your podcast search app that you prompted together in record time.<p>As you get better at this, sure enough you might create something tangible and substantial that otherwise would have taken a small team or take 10 times as long.<p>But guess what? These super powers aren&#x27;t exclusive. Anybody will be able to do it. So the execution becomes irrelevant and value is based on the idea being unique, and even if that, it will be instantly copied.<p>Even an idea being unique doesn&#x27;t have to translate in success. We don&#x27;t exactly have a shortage of software or content, we&#x27;re already drowning in it and can&#x27;t even keep up with tools. How would you be even be noticed in an abundance of ideas?
dclowd9901大约 2 年前
I’m genuinely excited about integrating AI into our IDEs and metrics gathering and pipelines because I think it’ll pay off dividends in tracking down bugs and preventing shipping regressions.<p>But I am having existential dread over my pay decreasing by a large margin over the next decade. Not sure what I’ll do next. Maybe general contracting.
captainmuon大约 2 年前
That&#x27;s really exciting, LLMs make a lot of exploratory work trivial.<p>Unfortunately I feel like I&#x27;m hitting a wall here. I&#x27;ve gotten pretty good at learning new things and stamping out prototypes - I still appreciate the help from LLMs a lot. But a big part of my work is people stuff: Follow up with X, make sure Y does Z, find a consensus, and so on. GPT does nothing there, maybe except for helping me formulate a mail.<p>And I&#x27;m also not sure it helps with architectural questions. GPT will build you a game, but there are 100s of ways to do it, and it will pick one at random that might be not optimal down the line.
Karunamon大约 2 年前
The confusion in terms called out here (and even demonstrated) is probably not to OpenAI&#x27;s benefit and I am surprised they haven&#x27;t spent more effort in trying to correct that.<p>ChatGPT is a website that lets you do chat completion [1] against LLM models, and it exposes some extra functions like plug-ins if you are lucky enough to be white listed for them.<p>GPT 3.5 and GPT 4 are the actual models.<p>Someone telling you that they did something cool with ChatGPT probably means GPT 3.5<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;platform.openai.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;api-reference&#x2F;chat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;platform.openai.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;api-reference&#x2F;chat</a>
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RobinL大约 2 年前
I would be grateful for an example prompt for the following quote:<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Copying and pasting documentation and APIs to GPT-4, asking it to write interfaces based on them.<p>Sounds very interesting but I cant quite work out how to phrase the prompt
polyphilz大约 2 年前
&gt; Staying in any company right now is a negative return; you are wasting personal leverage.<p>I left my job at big tech a few months ago and started using ChatGPT (and now GPT 4) shortly after for personal projects.<p>100% stand by the author&#x27;s statement. The ability to iterate and execute on my ideas in a way I&#x27;ve never been able to do before—combined with not having to worry about whether I&#x27;m infringing on my previous employer&#x27;s intellectual property rights clause—feels so incredibly freeing.
justsocrateasin大约 2 年前
I really liked this article overall, but was very confused by this section -<p>&gt; If you are an individual developer, the leverage it provides might be 10 times greater, but when you work for a company, that number might be only 2.<p>Where do these numbers come from? Did ChatGPT hallucinate them? I don&#x27;t understand why both can&#x27;t be true. Why can&#x27;t I have 10x leverage in my job and use that productive to unlock more time and then further leverage myself as a personal developer? Very strange sentiment here and also a baseless claim IMO.
awinter-py大约 2 年前
The podfind example in the article is a tailwind page fronting itunes search API.<p>The big question here feels like: how should AI do retrieval? &#x27;Generate an interface to hit existing DB&#x27; is probably one of the answers, I suspect this use case will grow.<p>Separate question, should it take a few hundred lines of html + js to provide this? Can low-boilerplate DSLs make humans <i>and</i> LLM codegen better at delivering on these asks
Imnimo大约 2 年前
&gt;Unless you work for OpenAI, your GPT leverage is likely wasted on trivial business code<p>But trivial code is the only level of code GPT can really write.
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jxf大约 2 年前
This is an interesting view, but I reached a different conclusion than the author. If GPT-4 (and successors, presumably), are so empowering, then leveraging them as a collective could potentially be even more powerful. We shouldn&#x27;t underestimate the power of highly enabled teams.<p>As another commenter wrote: &quot;if you want to go fast, go alone; if you need to go far, go together&quot;.
bulldog13大约 2 年前
Anyone have any good examples or tutorials of specifically how to use ChatGPT for greenfield code development ?
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RivieraKid大约 2 年前
The post says there&#x27;s a huge difference between GPT-4 and ChatGPT? But which version of ChatGPT?
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zoogeny大约 2 年前
&gt; Perhaps soon, documentation and APIs will become GPT-friendly first.<p>I can imagine documentation becoming ChatGPT plugin aware. Like, the automatically generated stuff that comes out of Swagger and the like. Maybe a killer feature for a new API documentation startup?
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gfodor大约 2 年前
GPT-4 got me through porting a near SoTA image segmenter to the browser and building a prototype UX that uses the webcam to grab decals from the real world in a few hours that prob would have taken me at least 5x longer.
designium大约 2 年前
I actually feel in the same way of how GPT-4 has increased my capabilities as an individual than for company. It&#x27;s insane how fast the idea iterations can be and you can actually execute it pretty fast.
nico大约 2 年前
Small teams are the future<p>AI is the new Linux<p>No single entity can own it or control it<p>This will impact everything in tech
davesque大约 2 年前
Feels like a pretty rosey take. It seems to me that corporations and other monied groups will still have the upper hand. But who knows what&#x27;s coming really.
orangesite大约 2 年前
I think it&#x27;s really cool that folk are using this as an opportunity to explore beyond the boundaries of what they think they&#x27;re capable of.
croes大约 2 年前
How good is GPT-4 in programming something new?<p>This reminds of all these web programming courses that build a todo list or simple insta clone.
namaria大约 2 年前
Sure, more people writing and running more code that they understand less will work out just fine.
greenie_beans大约 2 年前
the average person doesn&#x27;t know the distinction between chatgpt and gpt4. it&#x27;s all the same thing to them. keep that in mind anytime you&#x27;re talking with a non-tech person about this.
greenie_beans大约 2 年前
how do i use gpt4? i&#x27;ve tried requesting the api with that model and get denied. nor do i see anywhere in the chatgpt ui to upgrade to gpt4.
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jonahss大约 2 年前
LLMs are great for Rubber-ducking!
satisfaction大约 2 年前
Are they comparing CHatGPT 3.5 with GPT4 or ChatGPT4 with GPT4? Because you can now select GPT4 when using CHatgpt.