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Pixel Tablet

273 点作者 abawany大约 2 年前

72 条评论

crazygringo大约 2 年前
&gt; <i>The included charging dock is also a speaker.</i><p>I&#x27;ve gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don&#x27;t understand why Apple doesn&#x27;t do the same.<p>There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed.<p>It&#x27;s been years since I plugged in my phone or AirPods -- I only wirelessly charge. The idea that we should still be plugging in tablets with Lightning or USB-C is bizarre to me. A charging dock is the way to go, and it&#x27;s so unexpected to me that Google realizes this while Apple doesn&#x27;t. It&#x27;s actually the only reason I haven&#x27;t upgraded my iPad.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.logitech.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;products&#x2F;ipad-accessories&#x2F;base-ipad-pro-stand.939-001454.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.logitech.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;products&#x2F;ipad-accessories&#x2F;bas...</a>
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kentiko大约 2 年前
Last time I bought a Google device was a Pixel C end of 2016 as present for my dad. It was supported up to Android 8, released in 2017, and then Google decided this device was obsolete and would never get the next Android release. I am done with Google hardware. I bought my dad an iPad Mini since, as a replacement, I sure it will be updated for much longer.
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dabernathy89大约 2 年前
Android tablets generally feel overpriced right now for what they offer compared to Apple&#x27;s ecosystem. There&#x27;s one exception: Lenovo&#x27;s last gen pro tablet got a small refresh. It&#x27;s the &quot;Lenovo P11 Pro Gen 2&quot; and it&#x27;s absurdly affordable compared to the competition right now (~$270). It&#x27;s got a 120hz OLED display, great general-purpose performance (my previous tablet experience was Samsung&#x27;s budget S6 Lite, which was a little sluggish and had a worse display.). I&#x27;m super happy with my purchase so far.<p>Downside: the compatible pen Precision Pen 3 seems to be unavailable right now.<p>[edit: looks like the price has gone back up to $399 in most places. I&#x27;d still consider it a good alternative at that price, but if you can pick it up on sale at under $300 it&#x27;s a no-brainer]
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chrysoprace大约 2 年前
As someone who generally likes the Pixel line of phones (not a fanboy; I just enjoy the stock+ android experience), I&#x27;m sceptical of the support on this tablet. My old Nexus tablet (I think it&#x27;s the Nexus 7) is generally useless beyond basic offline usage because it doesn&#x27;t get OS updates any more.<p>Given the price, it&#x27;s going to be a hard thing to justify at AUD$899 if it&#x27;s going to be a security liability after 2028.<p>I like the dock though. Gives it a second purpose as a hub I guess.
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anttiharju大约 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_tablet?hl=en-US" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_tablet?hl=en-US</a><p>for those not in the US<p>I wish the post url was updated to this, right now it gets redirected to the local frontpage with no information about the tablet
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Andrew_nenakhov大约 2 年前
Well, better late than never.<p>Many, many years ago when Android 2 was all the rage, Motorola has shipped Xoom tablet with Android 3. That Android version turned out to be a dead end, and the whole line of tablets went nowhere. Next Google&#x27;s attempt at tablets was Nexus 7 device, which was actually great, esp 2013 version that still lays around somewhere in my office and sees occasional use. But then, Google kind of forgot tablets exist and ignored the category completely. It was left for Samsung and some obscure manufacturers making devices, running apps that are usually not really adapted to tablets. So maybe it is finally time to have nice tablets on Android with stock OS, and maybe a special category for apps adapted to tablets in Google Play.
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rch大约 2 年前
Funny, I just replaced my perfectly acceptable, but canceled and unsupported Pixel Slate (2018) tablet with an iPad Pro. No regrets.
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gnicholas大约 2 年前
&gt; <i>Easily control your home with the Google Home app.</i><p>Except the Nest gear, including home security system, that we’ve just announced we’re disabling.
initplus大约 2 年前
Not in a market that we sell to means you aren&#x27;t even allowed to look at the product? I recall this being a problem years ago on the Google store, but it&#x27;s still a thing?<p>Apple lets me look at the store of any country I want. And they anyways launch products globally at the same time.
CobaltFire大约 2 年前
No mention of it supporting Google’s Kids Space out of the box, which is the ONE killer feature the Android tablets have over iOS in my house.<p>We are currently using throwaway Fire Tablets with Amazon’s version but would migrate to the actual Google version if we could with a reasonably good device. We’d even sooner swap to iOS but they don’t seem to want to support that use case.<p>Note: Son is non verbal and autistic, so tablets are learning, play, and communication for him. Kids space helps him navigate.
solarkraft大约 2 年前
Am I having a stroke? 700€ for a tablet? That doesn&#x27;t support a pen? That doesnt have a good ecosystem?<p>I get that Pixel is supposed to be a premium brand but it looks to me like they&#x27;re trying to out-Apple Apple in pricing while at the same time trying to establish a new product category (let&#x27;s be honest, Android tablets are kind of a joke right now).<p>I&#x27;m glad Android tablets might make a comeback, but at that price?! Hopefully the a-Version isn&#x27;t too far.
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jasonvorhe大约 2 年前
I lost all interest in Google tablets after they abandoned the Pixel C instead of iterating over the concept of the portable keyboard they shipped it with. It was way ahead of Apple&#x27;s Magic Keyboard for iPad and if they had doubled down on improving tablet support around 2015&#x2F;2016 they wouldn&#x27;t still be playing catch-up after the third or even fourth &quot;we&#x27;re serious about tablets now!&quot; proclamation.<p>Android update support is also quite terrible considering they&#x27;re on their own SoC by now.<p>Meh. Will probably grab the OnePlus Pad once it&#x27;s on sale or if I can save 50-100EUR by getting it 2nd hand&#x2F;refurbished.
taeric大约 2 年前
I confess when I was getting a tablet for the family, I was expecting I could find one in the google store. Shockingly, there were no options at the time. And, I now confess that I&#x27;m not clear I would want to go with their option at this time. I can&#x27;t bring myself to think this will have a good lifecycle of support. :(
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Schnitz大约 2 年前
&quot;I&#x27;ll trust Google to make this tablet great and support it in the long run&quot; - no one ever
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akino_germany大约 2 年前
$499 &#x2F; £599 &#x2F; €679 &#x2F; CA$699 What are these prices? I would have expected 549€ with the conversion rate and taxes and all that.
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ho_schi大约 2 年前
Can somebody explain me why Europeans should pay 679 Euro which are around 740 Dollar? I assume something around 540 Dollar in the US with sales tax?<p>And why we should also pay for the needless dock? Last time I bought a ThinkPad the offered good docking-stations but this was optional. Things which are not need for normal use should sold separately. Waste of resources.<p>Note: Rate Euro to US is 1,09.
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eitally大约 2 年前
As far as I&#x27;m concerned, the only real market for this is as an upgraded Nest Hub hardware. It&#x27;s not really competitive as a tablet (go to Samsung or Apple for that), but it doesn&#x27;t really do anything differentiated, either.<p>If it is indeed the next gen of what would have been the Nest Hub Max, then this is what the first gen of that product should have been. The detachable tablet is a great idea, as is building a speaker into the base. It would be compelling if the MSRP was $349 or so, but not $499. For that amount, I could just buy two Nest Hub Maxes, or a quite nice iPad (or nice Samsung Android tablet).
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rektide大约 2 年前
Has anyone tried loading the Chromecast app onto an existing phone or tablet? It looks like there&#x27;s just an android app that runs but it probably isn&#x27;t quite as simple as that, but I also haven&#x27;t tried.<p>That you can cast to this seems like such a basic &amp; obvious step.
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afruitpie大约 2 年前
It’s nice to see key accessories (in this case, the dock) and an acceptable amount of storage included by default.<p>I’ve always held off on impulse buying an iPad because my cart total starts creeping towards MacBook prices once accessories and storage are added.
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dmitrygr大约 2 年前
&gt; The tablet only Google could make.<p>So, we should expect no ownership of hardware issues [1][2][3][4] and a discontinuation shortly [5] ?<p>Even the actual product page is broken <i>already</i>. See footnote 7 on tech specs page [6]:<p>&gt; [...] See g.co&#x2F;pixeltablet&#x2F;updates for more information.<p>That link ... is broken... no such article exists...<p>Come to think of it, this <i>IS</i> the update policy, probably. Expectations are being set early on.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34494129" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34494129</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;GooglePixel&#x2F;comments&#x2F;10yf7yp&#x2F;google_pixel_7_pro_poor_quality_control&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;GooglePixel&#x2F;comments&#x2F;10yf7yp&#x2F;google...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.phonearena.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;Pixel-7-Pro-is-turning-into-a-disintegrating-mess-but-Google-doesnt-really-care_id145455" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.phonearena.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;Pixel-7-Pro-is-turning-into-...</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techradar.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;google-pixel-6-problems" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techradar.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;google-pixel-6-problems</a><p>[5] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;killedbygoogle.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;killedbygoogle.com&#x2F;</a><p>[6] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_tablet_specs?hl=en-US" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_tablet_specs?hl=en-US</a>
theshrike79大约 2 年前
...and also not available in Europe.<p>What is Google&#x27;s thinking here? Do they have too much money and don&#x27;t want to get more of it? Or is their supply chain so limited that they can&#x27;t produce enough?
gjsman-1000大约 2 年前
The charging dock being a speaker is a nice gimmick. However, at $499... that&#x27;s not the price Google needs in my mind, and it reminds me about the Pixel Watch; too little, too late.<p>You can get a basic iPad for $329, an iPad mini for $399, or a modern iPad for $449. The ecosystem of apps on Android is hardly tablet-optimized, and there&#x27;s no option to add a keyboard or pencil later. Also, if you learn how to use an iPad, there&#x27;s no risk of it being killed after the 1st generation (looking at you Pixel Slate - if you bought that thing, it&#x27;s been five years waiting for this replacement).<p>Software support is another issue, with the average iPad getting at least 6 years of full upgrades followed by 1-2 years of just security updates; while the Pixel tablet promises only three new Android versions and 2 years of security updates afterwards. Considering my 5-year-old iPad is still widely used here, I think that lifecycle may be too short.
freedomben大约 2 年前
Does anyone know if this supports USB-C to HDMI?<p>It saddens me to have to ask this on HN but there&#x27;s no info I can find about this. After having OnePlus devices for years, I got very used to being able to plug in a USB-C to HDMI cable into the charging port and be able to use an external screen with no problems. After getting a Pixel 5a and my wife a Pixel 7, I discovered that Pixels do <i>not</i> support that (which surprised me greatly). Supposedly one can buy some expensive special hardware and install a 2&#x2F;5 star rated app with bad privacy policy to give the feature, but that is quite unpalatable to me.<p>If this device has that feature, I would buy it because it&#x27;s otherwise excellent. But plugging in to our van&#x27;s HDMI port to play movies and such for kids on long road trips is a must-have feature for me.
stewbrew大约 2 年前
They still don&#x27;t manage to sell their devices world-wide. Even in Europe. Clicking on the above link I see only their useless nest devices.
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abudabi123大约 2 年前
Does it make more sense to place a camera at each corner of the device for two cameras at anytime to feed the A.I. chip stereo vision? The single camera midpoint on the longer side forces a double think before docking the device like early USB plug.
skybrian大约 2 年前
A Google Nest Hub Max is $229. This seems like the upgrade pick at $499, which lets you use it as a tablet, too.<p>My use case is video calls for an elderly relative. I wonder if it would work as simply (once set up), or whether it would complicate things.
SomeHacker44大约 2 年前
I would have liked to see a 512G memory version, or in the alternative, a Micro SD Card slot. Phones have more memory.
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locallost大约 2 年前
I am not really am Apple person, but I always wondered why the iPad is almost always better priced or in the same range as Android tablets when they are clearly better. At the same time I have an Android phone and don&#x27;t know why a comparable iPhone is 2x the price. Not saying this is a bad tablet, and I like my Pixel phone, but if they will fight the iPad they need to be competitive on pricing and this isn&#x27;t, especially not in Europe.
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corn13read2大约 2 年前
The tablet that only google could make... The $500 LCD tablet that only google would try to sell.
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russellbeattie大约 2 年前
I think the combination of tablet and smart display is the right idea.<p>The Nest Hub copied Amazon&#x27;s ill conceived idea of a locked down device with anemic specs. Amazon&#x27;s goal was to saturate the market to help push the Prime &quot;flywheel&quot;, but who knows what Google&#x27;s plan was. Home automation license fees? Without any other real business model, the result for Amazon was a fleet of bandwidth sucking machines and a $10 billion loss. Losing money on every device but making it up in volume, so to speak. Fuchsia is simply Google&#x27;s foray deeper into that black hole of stupidity.<p>Launching a more capable device with a decent OS and proven developer ecosystem could finally make smart displays more useful. I predict if Apple ever launches one, it will have similar properties and run on an iOS derivative rather than some underpowered, minimal functionality, closed device only used for weather and music.
dalbasal大约 2 年前
What is the revenue&#x2F;profitability situation for Google&#x27;s consumer electronics?<p>When Google originally got into the biz... with Android and earlier versions of this pixel range, the goal was to compliment search and such.<p>That did kind of work. Google&#x27;s position is seemingly better than it would have been in a world where Apple (and msft?) dominate mobile OS.<p>That said... Google is still 80% ads, 10% cloud, 10% pixels. Is that 10% even profitable?<p>With the www increasingly decreasing and GPTs starting to eye web search&#x27;s dominance as the way to access information...<p>Google&#x27;s thousand flowers bloomed, then withered. Some came back stronger. None of them became meaningful businesses. I don&#x27;t understand why.
indigomm大约 2 年前
US Price: $499 UK Price: £599<p>I get that technology companies don&#x27;t just directly convert USD at the appropriate exchange rate, but this is ridiculous. Especially as the conversion rate they used on the Pixel Fold is 1 USD = 1 GBP.
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ozten大约 2 年前
I don’t consider buying premium Electronics from Google. I look to them for free and cheap products and services.<p>I can’t imagine these working in 2 years nor would I want to deal with their customer service.
uni_baconcat大约 2 年前
&quot;The only tablet engineered by Google.&quot;<p>Pixel C and Pixel Slate may have a question about this.<p>Back to the point, I think the only thing that Pixel Tablet solved is it has a magnetic charging station.
renewiltord大约 2 年前
Suffers from ecosystem problem. iOS ecosystem is way better. I have owned Nexus and Pixel phones, Nexus tablets, and Moto 360 and Galaxy Gear. Switching to Apple ecosystem was way better world.<p>The problem is that some things have ecosystem network bonus and if you can&#x27;t work yourself up to that threshold, you don&#x27;t get it.<p>Positioning as home device is interesting since that&#x27;s the one place I use Google devices. But if they don&#x27;t use modern LLM stuff there, I think that one is for the rubbish heap.
lapetitejort大约 2 年前
I have one of the original Nest Hubs in my bedroom. Just as a dynamic photo frame it has justified its existence. One of the killer features is zero cameras anywhere on the body. I can imagine buying one tablet with several docks throughout the house, but the cameras on the front and back are no-gos for certain rooms. They need to sell attachment that will physically block the cameras in order for the tablet to dock. None of the cases look to have optional camera blockers.
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w1nst0nsm1th大约 2 年前
I would go for an Oneplus Pad, which as a better screen ratio (7:5), which is 1 step further than iPad in matter of ergonomy.<p>In my experience, 1536x2500 is not a good ratio, even if it is a nice resolution.<p>Google just copied Huawei, Lenovo and Xiaomi screen format.<p>I don&#x27;t know about cpu and gpu specs but in my experience it doesn&#x27;t matter as it feel mostly equals past a certain treeshold point.<p>Also, it costs 200 euros less.<p>And you make nobody jalous. With Oneplus Pad, Uncle Sam AND Uncle Xi potentially spy on you.
spinchange大约 2 年前
Feel like I&#x27;ve been waiting for a Chrome tablet since before Sundar was CEO. Then a few years later there was that expensive Pixel laptop. Now they&#x27;re finally shipping this in 2023. I&#x27;ve always wondered what was holding back a launch of this.<p>Edit: I realize this is Android and not ChromeOS. I just can&#x27;t believe they didn&#x27;t ship a flagship tablet all this time.
Alupis大约 2 年前
The specs feel... underwhelming?<p>12 hours battery life? My Pixel 7 Pro gets a claimed 2+ days.<p>8GB RAM? Even if it&#x27;s mostly unused, my Pixel 7 Pro has 12GB.<p>The display has a nice resolution, but the bezel around it is huge.<p>My Galaxy Tab S6 from 2019 has the same or better specs... and is thinner to boot.<p>It kind of feels like this was a tablet that should have arrived a few years ago.
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springogeek大约 2 年前
I&#x27;ve had bad experiences with the hardware maintenance of Google devices. Things break down and Google don&#x27;t provide good ways to repair them if the device is older than a couple years, so while it&#x27;s cool, I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ll go for this.
bilalq大约 2 年前
I wish the price was slightly lower so this could be no-brainer, but I&#x27;m a fan. The speaker dock seems like a gimmick at a glance, but I think it&#x27;s compelling. It gives the device a definitive home at rest, and bi-modal utility. This is the kind of thing that fits super nicely in the kitchen.
2h大约 2 年前
&gt; Does the Pixel Tablet have a cellular plan option?<p>&gt; No, the Pixel Tablet is only available with Wi-Fi connectivity.<p>and I am out. we have about 300 iPads at work, and I would be interested in swapping some to this, but it MUST have cellular data, no exception. otherwise its just a toy. Dumb move Google.
mcsniff大约 2 年前
I might buy this, I do wish it had NFC, but alas not many tablets do.<p>The killer feature for me is GrapheneOS support.
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summerlight大约 2 年前
The spec seems a bit underwhelming, but this experiment seems to try paving the road to merging home devices, tablets and set top boxes (yeah, it has Chromecast built-in) into one form factor. The narrative itself seems plausible, let&#x27;s see how it plays out.
stonogo大约 2 年前
The weirdest part of this product, to me, is that Google went all-in on beige. You may pick from three shades of beige. Google corporate branding is usually so much more colorful, but I guess times change.
Tepix大约 2 年前
The website is pretty much broken on Firefox on a Macbook Air M1.<p>You can only see the left upper 3rd of the device at the default zoom and the animation doesn&#x27;t play.<p>You have to zoom out before it works as expected.
wslh大约 2 年前
Does it run ChromeOS Flex? [1]?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chromeenterprise.google&#x2F;os&#x2F;chromeosflex&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chromeenterprise.google&#x2F;os&#x2F;chromeosflex&#x2F;</a>
vkdelta大约 2 年前
What’s with google in last few weeks? Tons of AI and a couple of new pixel devices! Are they really pulling everything in their arsenal in a short window to keep Wall Street happy?
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spoonjim大约 2 年前
Everyone accuses Apple of “price gouging” but they objectively make a better product at a lower price. They sell the iPad much cheaper and it has Apple Pencil support!
pregseahorses大约 2 年前
I have been a big fan of Google phones, but am being forced to switch away due to their horrendous parts prices. Their replacement LCD&#x27;s cost ~$200.
shmerl大约 2 年前
<i>&gt; Video and video calling:</i><p><i>&gt; Video formats: HEVC (H.265) and AVC (H.264)</i><p><i>&gt; Video playback:</i><p><i>&gt; Supports H.263, H.264 AVC, H.265 HEVC, MPEG-4, VP8, VP9, AV1</i><p>So no AV1 encoder?
candiddevmike大约 2 年前
No pen&#x2F;stylus?
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sergiotapia大约 2 年前
Missed the mother&#x27;s day window badly! I would have easily picked this up at Target for my wife. With the dock? No brainer, 100% cop.
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Andaith大约 2 年前
Does anyone else think it&#x27;s a weird decision to force people to sign in to their google accounts before viewing the google store?
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jay_kyburz大约 2 年前
I love my Nokia T20 and it&#x27;s less than half the price. It&#x27;s plenty fast enough for browsing the net and watching shows.
brucezepplin大约 2 年前
So is this competing with Echo Show or Samsung S8 &#x2F; iPad Air? I just cam&#x27;t understand why they would go with the former?
balls187大约 2 年前
This really feels like a replacement for Nest Hub.<p>Next version will offer a version of the dock with Nest features (mic, iot support).
pipeline_peak大约 2 年前
If I wanted an iPad, I’d pay the same price for the actual thing.<p>No one wants a luxury Android tablet, we learned that over 10 years ago.
codethief大约 2 年前
I really hope GrapheneOS will run on it!
benatkin大约 2 年前
A Tensor processor, nice. I heard of it but forgot about it. It is indeed a reference to TensorFlow.
mikevm大约 2 年前
Another fail on the aspect ratio side of things. Pass until they release a 4:3 aspect ratio tablet.
perryizgr8大约 2 年前
No headphone jack, no sale.
Dalewyn大约 2 年前
If this had a headphone jack I would be seriously considering a purchase.<p>Alas, it does not.
sobriquet9大约 2 年前
Will GrapheneOS run on it?
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tlhunter大约 2 年前
Is this the first mainstream tablet without an audio jack?
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ceving大约 2 年前
How about multi-user? Or do I have to buy 4 of it?
progx大约 2 年前
Unleash the 60 Hz LCD display power in 2023!
m0shp_t大约 2 年前
Nice, charging docs are super useful
streakfix大约 2 年前
On a side note, how hackable is the nest hub? I&#x27;d like to mess around with a production fuchsia release.
brucezepplin大约 2 年前
so is this an echo show competitor or Samsung S8 &#x2F; iPad Air?
kernal大约 2 年前
5 years of updates.
berkle4455大约 2 年前
is android usable these days or is it still &quot;usable&quot; in the way linux desktops are?
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