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FUTO – An independent software lab and grant fund

268 点作者 doodlesdev大约 2 年前

15 条评论

marginalia_nu大约 2 年前
I looked into these guys recently. I do think their heart is in the right place. Like it&#x27;s obviously a small operation, but I think that&#x27;s all the better. We don&#x27;t need another Mozilla foundation. But being small their marketing is a bit sparse and engineer:y so I&#x27;ll take the opportunity to shill a bit.<p>They do sort of seem to worry about a lot of the right stuff.<p>As programmers and engineers we can have an idea and then through some effort just make that thing exist. It&#x27;s really is tantamount to wizardry.<p>Sadly it feels like there are more obstacles to this every day, both in terms of literal hurdles like locked down hardware and app stores, but also the (erroneous) notions that you need to host your software in the cloud or use FAANG-scale solutions like kubernetes, or just the Jenga towers of half-baked libraries that make up the technology stacks many developers are stuck with means constant attrition from library churn any time you get anything to work.<p>And also this weird mentality that&#x27;s drilled into a lot of inexperienced developers that they need to lower their ambitions, and to stick to building simple things.<p>I think that sticks with people even as their experience and capacity to produce software grows.<p>I think it&#x27;s gotten to the point where many people with the skills to build amazing software just don&#x27;t understand that this is something they&#x27;re able and permitted to do.<p>You get to build software for the sake of software existing and providing a benefit to you, to yourself. If you need something, you get to build it. Software can be used to change your world, the world, it can be an extension of your will.<p>Programmers obviously get that they can write software, but not that software can be very impactful, it can change lives, even reshape societies.<p>You don&#x27;t need to limit yourself to todo apps, text editors and static site generators. You don&#x27;t need a license or approval or permission to do build crazy ambitious stuff for the sake of crazy and ambitious stuff to exist. Not yet anyway.
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mcaravey大约 2 年前
Louis Rossmann works there now, and he has put out a number of videos about them over the past few months. The first couple of minutes of this video gives a nice overview:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;vawcnCv1_1w" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;vawcnCv1_1w</a><p>His summarized description is &quot;FUTO is an organization that seeks to give users back control of their technology&quot;.
gl-prod大约 2 年前
I like the Dune quote in the footer:<p><pre><code> Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. Frank Herbert, Dune</code></pre>
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VyseofArcadia大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m less worried about software freedom these days. Desktop free software has been solid for ages now, and we are starting to have SaaS replacements with the rise of the fediverse.<p>I&#x27;m worried about hardware, though. My wife got a new Dell laptop about six months ago, and despite my 20 years of installing Linux distros on every piece of hardware I can, it still took me hours to jump through all the hoops to get Ubuntu on the machine.<p>Microsoft is locking stuff down, hard. I&#x27;d be willing to bet that when Windows 12 releases, it will require that the PC be a closed platform that does not allow users to install another OS. MS sees people just living with the closed by default mobile ecosystem and wants something similar for PCs.
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teleforce大约 2 年前
Great initiative, I wish more organizations and philanthropists can join the effort for technology freedom.<p>GNU Radio is one of the most popular open source software for communication and the initial funding was provided by John Gilmore [1],[2].<p>[1] John Gilmore:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_Gilmore_(activist)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_Gilmore_(activist)</a><p>[2] GNU Radio:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnuradio.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnuradio.org&#x2F;</a>
rdl大约 2 年前
This is one of the most amazing organizations doing stuff today -- I wish I lived in Austin to participate more. I&#x27;ve visited a few times and am always impressed by the people I meet there (both the &quot;staff&quot; and the fellowship recipients); had the fortune of showing up during the second fellowship demo day and saw some great people&#x2F;projects, a lot like early YC demo days.
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miniBill大约 2 年前
This looks really interesting! One thing that surprised me about the projects is the video one... why not just work on improving PeerTube instead?
Bogdanp大约 2 年前
It&#x27;s unclear from the website whether or not applications are open to folks outside of the US. Are they? Either way, very cool.
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mousetree大约 2 年前
Who is funding this?
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awesomekling大约 2 年前
Love the spirit of this, and really curious to see what comes of it!<p>I applied for a grant once but never heard back. My goals may be too ambitious for some though, so no hard feelings :^)
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ahamm大约 2 年前
How is FUTO funded&#x2F;who are the primary donors? This wasn&#x27;t clear from the site.
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larossmann大约 2 年前
I am curious doodlesdev - where did you first hear about FUTO from? Thank you!
pelasaco大约 2 年前
Interesting to see that they are in Texas and not California...
748大约 2 年前
FUTO makes sense in terms of it comes from &quot;FUTurO&quot;, in the context of Future, but I see the organization changing its name if it is going to become a large player - just having &quot;FU&quot; as the first letters is a bit unuserfriendly (although I realize that they probably want to signal that they are saying FU to the other companies they are competing with), and I won&#x27;t even mention that it is oddly similar to &quot;FUPA&quot;, maybe the founder(s) wanted to use this as a joke of some sort? Similar to Elon combining his model letters into &quot;S3XY&quot;.
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carapace大约 2 年前
I think their hearts are in the right place, but IMO most of the concerns about user freedom are obviated or transformed by the existence of these new talking machines.<p>(Just in the interest of disclosure, I&#x27;m a &quot;Free&quot; software partisan (I don&#x27;t see the point of &quot;Open&quot; source.) I don&#x27;t want to argue about it, I&#x27;m just being upfront about my own bias.)<p>It seems to me that we have three great UI paradigms: CLI, GUI, and now LLM. The first is typically seen by normals as inscrutable and esoteric, the domain of computer &quot;wizards&quot;. The second is &quot;computer&quot; in the minds of most normals, this is how you get University courses on e.g. how to operate MS office software, etc. The third, speech, is of course learned automatically as children.<p>From now on the kind of programming we know (and love, some of us) is obsolete. No one wants to operate symbolic calculators via janky teletype machines. No one really wants to learn boring video games like Excel or Word. We want to tell the computer what to do and have it do that. Well, now we can.<p>But that means that we, the hackers and computer nerds, are now playing with model trains. (That&#x27;s my metaphor: am I writing code people will actually use? If not, then I&#x27;m playing with my model trains. Nothing wrong with that! Fantastic hobby! But I&#x27;m not starting a shipping company with N gauge trains, yeah?)<p>It seems to me that now, in 2023, most needful software has already been written, just as most needful technology has already been invented, and the focus of an organization like FUTO should be on simple open hardware, an open library of algorithms and DBs, and a simple LLM UI, all on top of something like Glamorous Toolkit. Plug that into an open IoT, declare victory.<p>The rest of the job is marketing.
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