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Tell HN: Story about Sam Altman attending the 2023 Bilderberg meeting was killed

6 点作者 johnyzee将近 2 年前
Link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35990103" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35990103</a><p>The story and headline were from CNBC: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;05&#x2F;18&#x2F;bilderberg-openai-microsoft-google-join-ai-talks-at-secretive-meeting.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;05&#x2F;18&#x2F;bilderberg-openai-microsoft-...</a><p>It seems to be factual. Some people seem to object to others finding reasons to be suspicious about the meeting. No reason to kill the story (nor a good way to quell conspiracy suspicions, probably).

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dang将近 2 年前
Users flagged it. (Mods didn&#x27;t touch it or even see it.) We can only guess why users flag things, but in this case I don&#x27;t think the article is a basis for a substantive, thoughtful conversation so I think they were probably correct to flag it. It&#x27;s too sensational&#x2F;inflammatory a story, and there isn&#x27;t significant information there.<p>The downside, as you say, is that flagging it will appear to confirm some people&#x27;s suspicions about suppression, censorship, etc. - but that happens all the time on all such topics, and I&#x27;ve learned there&#x27;s not much we can do about it. Patiently presenting the facts doesn&#x27;t help with inflammation of sinisterness. (Fortunately, it does help with the majority of the audience.)<p>The details in the article may be factual, but that&#x27;s not a sufficient condition for a good HN thread. There needs to be something of intellectual interest, and &#x27;celebrity attends private meeting with other elite celebrities&#x27; is not enough information to count. You can see from the comments that people are mostly flaming for-or-against, and&#x2F;or just making things up. The meeting being secret makes a vacuum that people fill up with their imaginations. That&#x27;s natural and human but it&#x27;s not good for thoughtful HN threads.<p>Also, it looks like the title was editorialized, which is against HN&#x27;s rules (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html</a>).<p>p.s. Btw I may be mistaken but I vaguely recall that Sam has attended that meeting before- if so, then his name is higher up in the article purely because AI is newsy these days. Otherwise they&#x27;d put someone else&#x27;s name there - that&#x27;s how the eyeballs get glued.
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schoen将近 2 年前
My impression is that HN readers are allowed to downvote something for any reason, including feeling like a topic is annoying or won&#x27;t make for a good HN discussion.<p>So there&#x27;s probably nothing more centralized at work than a bunch of readers deciding that they found the topic annoying or likely to be unproductive.<p>Of course, it can be hard to distinguish the results from a perception of people protecting their idols from scrutiny. But I&#x27;m not sure if anything can be done about that.
injb将近 2 年前
What do you mean by &quot;was killed&quot;? The story in the link is still there and talks frankly about the Bilderberg meetings.<p>BTW if anyone wants to read more about this, I highly recommend Jon Ronson&#x27;s &quot;Them: Adventures with Extremists&quot;, or the accompanying documentary series &quot;The Secret Rulers of the World&quot;. Before that book, Bilderberg really was a secret. You can even find Ronson&#x27;s interview with Dennis Healy, one of the founders on youtube.
AnimalMuppet将近 2 年前
First: It was probably killed by readers, not by the powers that be at YC.<p>Second: It was probably killed because, among those attending Bilderberg, Sam Altman is far from the most interesting. And of all the things Sam Altman is doing, attending Bilderberg is far from the most interesting or concerning. So the article seems to be trying to grab the maximum amount of attention, rather than having much substance.<p>Third: The article is written in a very slanted way. As others said in the other thread, &quot;elites&quot;? Or &quot;successful businesspeople&quot;? You can slant the message by the terms you use, and this article seems to be slanted toward a somewhat conspiracist viewpoint, which is not necessarily objectively warranted.<p>Fourth: We&#x27;ve got a lot more interesting stuff to discuss here than Sam Altman attending Bilderberg.<p>So all in all, I don&#x27;t have a problem with it being killed.
walterbell将近 2 年前
Flags are crowdsourced. Anyone can email HN moderators (link at bottom of page) and make a case for removing a flag.
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