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SanDisk Extreme SSDs keep abruptly failing–firmware fix for only some promised

186 点作者 cm_silva将近 2 年前

16 条评论

bb88将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m thinking maybe the Gamer&#x27;s Nexus approach might work well here, where they buy failed hardware to do an autopsy on it -- and then publish the results of it on youtube as they recently have done for the ASUS high end motherboards that cook the AMD chips.<p>It allows the the media companies access to the failed hardware to do their own autopsy on it, and it saves the users from needing to go through a painful RMA process, complicated by companies not willing to admit fault.
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whitemary将近 2 年前
The &quot;high end&quot; PC parts market comprises such a horrendous pit of garbage.<p>The only way to know if anything even works to begin with is to read all (poorly written) manuals front to back taking notes, then procure the rest of the parts and rigorously test them yourself within all of their 30 day return windows. And even then you&#x27;re virtually guaranteed to miss some glaring issue.<p>Just last week, an obscure forum post from someone who already went through the tech support&#x2F;RMA gamut saved me from wasting a month + $5K on a build with a motherboard that doesn&#x27;t support sleep mode, which the manufacturer ASRock doesn&#x27;t mention anywhere.
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userbinator将近 2 年前
This is the result of an industry optimising for profit and not longevity. That&#x27;s why SLC NAND has become almost extinct and priced beyond reason. I don&#x27;t care how fast or large a storage device is if isn&#x27;t reliable.
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short_throw将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m 2 for 2 with SanDisk ssds suddenly dieing due to the controller going out way short of the drive&#x27;s expected life.<p>That was years before this issue but my rule of never buying a SanDisk product again is serving me well.
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whitepoplar将近 2 年前
Just my own experience, but I have a 1TB SanDisk Extreme V2 which was made several years ago. It routinely gets so hot that it nearly burns my skin to the touch, and when it does get that hot, it randomly unmounts from my computer. Last week, my SuperDuper backup to the drive failed due to underlying corruption, which strangely passed Disk Utility&#x27;s health checks. I&#x27;m so done with this product.
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inconceivable将近 2 年前
this is more common than you may think at all levels of the industry. some failures get more publicity than others. all the hand wringing over vendor silicon reliability data and TRIM and RAID topology and i&#x2F;o pattern optimization doesn&#x27;t matter one bit when the firmware just decides to delete itself along with all the data for no reason at all.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anandtech.com&#x2F;show&#x2F;15673&#x2F;dell-hpe-updates-for-40k-hour-essd-failures" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anandtech.com&#x2F;show&#x2F;15673&#x2F;dell-hpe-updates-for-40...</a><p>this one was a real pain in the ass to deal with. always make testable backups, people. backups are not the same as redundancy. a 1, 2, 3, even 7 or 14 day recovery point is far better than <i>poof it&#x27;s gone</i>.
magicalhippo将近 2 年前
On a related note, I had a OCZ SSD back in the days which bricked itself all of a sudden. I was running nightly full-disk cloning of my disk via TrueImage, in addition to &quot;realtime&quot; backup of my user directory via Crashplan (back when they were good), so I was back up and running in less than 30 minutes with no important data loss.<p>I know there are tools like Restic that can do what Crashplan did, but what&#x27;s the TrueImage equivalent for Linux? Ie something I can use to clone my primary disk nightly in the background, including boot partition, incrementally with periodic full clones, and that supports resizing partitions (both up and down) in case the replacement disk isn&#x27;t of equal size?<p>I know of Clonezilla but from their front page it can&#x27;t do incremental which is a showstopper. With TrueImage each incremental image takes only about 2-3GB per day on average, full is 500GB. It also seems to only support resizing up partitions which isn&#x27;t great as it means I can&#x27;t easily use old disks as emergency restore targets like I did when my OCZ died.<p>I know ZFS root + send&#x2F;receive is an option but as much as I like ZFS, I&#x27;m not comfortable running it on root yet.
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tinglymintyfrsh将近 2 年前
Realize the marketing and support (likely none) of retail parts like these: manufacturers don&#x27;t believe enterprise customers will not scream at them if some or many of them fail. They can play fast-and-loose to push the boundaries to get marketshare. Big name vloggers and tech reporters may complain.<p>OTOH, enterprise parts are built and supported towards conservatism and reliability.<p>There is crossover and a spectrum between the 2, but this case isn&#x27;t a complete surprise.
lastdong将近 2 年前
Bought a nvme SSD and failed after 3 months of use. Read similar occurrences in reviews amazon. It was a Crucial P3, now reading about Sandisk.<p>Storage (from well known brands) used to be the most reliable component. Not sure what is going on, but feels like quality control is not as good.
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aftbit将近 2 年前
Random anecdote but I usually run Samsung (8X0 Pro) or Western Digital (Blue&#x2F;Black) when I need cheap consumer NVMe drives. Otherwise I run used Intel enterprise SSDs with lots of life. Any component can fail but I have had good luck so far with these (fingers crossed). Of course, take frequent backups of any important storage.
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7speter将近 2 年前
Jeesh bought a crucial drive last year and then the firmware bug thing happened, so instead of buying another crucial drive, I bought a sandisk (ultra sata) drive and now this happens. None of the first party nand makers seem to be immune from these nand killing firmware bugs, not even samsung.<p>Actually, I take that back. Maybe solidigm&#x2F;SKHynix?
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winrid将近 2 年前
I have bad luck with buying products that have Extreme or Fatality in the name...
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PenguinRevolver将近 2 年前
Can this happen to 1TB models? Currently using one in the back of my computer 24&#x2F;7.
varenc将近 2 年前
If anyone wants a recommendation for an alternative, I&#x27;ve had a good experience with the Crucial X8 4TB external SSD. Not quite as fast as the SanDisk Extreme Pro but pretty decent. Wouldn&#x27;t trust it 100% though. (Also after writing ~300GB continuously the write speed falls from ~900MB&#x2F;s to 90MB&#x2F;s).<p>link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;varencs-4tb-ssd-rec-ps-did-you-know-you-can-put-anything-here&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B0B787PNL7" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;varencs-4tb-ssd-rec-ps-did-you-know-y...</a>
EricE将近 2 年前
Backups are more than just a good idea!
dboreham将近 2 年前
So the same thing that happened with every Raspberry Pi years ago?