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Neeva, would-be Google competitor, is shutting down its search engine

46 点作者 samspenc大约 2 年前

11 条评论

gnabgib大约 2 年前
The blog post (referenced in the article) was posted 6 hours ago: 192pts, 146 comments, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36013783" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36013783</a><p>I know for announcements, HN prefers the coverage of others, rather than breathless press releases. For this topic though, maybe the original source is better?
lazzlazzlazz大约 2 年前
At the time of my writing this comment (3 hrs after post; 14 comments), no recognition that the founding team is now doing crypto. Specifically, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;n.xyz" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;n.xyz</a> for which they raised $40m in a Series A financing.
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ChuckMcM大约 2 年前
From the article -- <i>“We’ve discovered that it is one thing to build a search engine, and an entirely different thing to convince regular users of the need to switch to a better choice.”</i><p>I give these guys and gals full marks, and massive respect, for getting the full stack of a search engine integrated (front end, ranking, indexing, crawling).<p>They regularly dealt with the #1 impediment in monopoly search, Google buying traffic. It is harder to isolate just the money they pay to third parties to redirect traffic but based on their Q1 results for 2023 it is at least $20 <i>BILLION</i> dollars a year these days.<p>Google can&#x27;t keep that up though, and given the increasing ways they have been cooking the books to make their numbers, I feel that within 5 or 6 years they will be dead or irrelevant. They certainly won&#x27;t be able to pay Mozilla and Apple to send them all their traffic and they likely won&#x27;t be able to force Android users to do the same. When a VC recently asked me what was going to happen to Google I suggested the likely outcome was that they sell themselves to Apple leaving behind just Apple and Microsoft, each with a platform, a hardware business, a search engine, and an OS.<p>Of course I figured this would have transpired by now :-) so clearly I&#x27;m pretty lame as a prognosticator.<p>That said, once the dust settles I think I know how a company could be formed around the technology known as search which would in fact be viable, but it would not have the margins that Google now enjoys.
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judge2020大约 2 年前
&gt; We’ve discovered that it is one thing to build a search engine, and an entirely different thing to convince regular users of the need to switch to a better choice.<p>Bold to take the stance of &quot;woe to the users of an inferior product that just don&#x27;t know they could be using us&quot;. If your search engine is that much better, you have to tell people about it, explain why it&#x27;s better, and if you succeed users will indeed take the time to change their browser&#x27;s search engine setting.<p>I imagine it would&#x27;ve been nice to get a bunch of users who go &quot;hmm I guess i&#x27;ll use this random search engine called Neeva&quot; if all OSes&#x2F;browsers had a list of search engines that the user had to select from upon setup, but the product failed more because you failed to either make a better product, or inform to the users of the benefits of switching. Lowering the barrier to switching makes it easier for people to switch to another engine just for the sake of it instead of switching to improve their own UX.<p>And the barrier of having to pay for a search engine is infinitely larger than the friction of going into your browser settings to change the default engine.
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anotherhue大约 2 年前
Reminder to everyone that Kagi still exists and is excellent: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagi.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagi.com&#x2F;</a>
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spaceguillotine大约 2 年前
i tried it, and when i searched for how to build a website in 2023, it gave me a link to reddit on how to get a girlfriend... The top non discussion links were all the same as Google.
WalterBright大约 2 年前
To take down an entrenched competitor, aiming at the center of their core competency doesn&#x27;t work. You have to offer something better, something they can&#x27;t duplicate because it doesn&#x27;t fit well with their core competency.
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ppetty大约 2 年前
“We’ve discovered”??<p>I’ve discovered saving by using the annual plan was a mistake. I’ll avoid that mistake if I try Kagi or something else.<p>But really miss Neeva’s integrations that were cancelled recently. Having the ability to search my GitHub repos &amp; the internet simultaneously was pretty cool. Add to that Notion, and other services. It was great for the the 4 months it was around but with 8 months left, I feel ripped off but it doesn’t seem worth getting too worked up over.<p>Just can’t let that happen again.
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kodah大约 2 年前
I&#x27;m super sad to see Neeva go, I&#x27;ve been paying for it and using it daily for a year, maybe more. Is there a similar&#x2F;better alternative?
thesquib大约 2 年前
Oh wow, I never heard of this before! A quick experiment searching for a few things and I&#x27;m impressed.
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exabrial大约 2 年前
Ok how come I’ve literally never heard of them? Would gladly kick Google to curb
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