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Ask HN: Do you think there will be social mobility after AGI?

10 点作者 zdenham将近 2 年前
I consider myself an ambitious person. And I like the idea of working my way up in the world through hard work, calculated risks (and of course luck &#x2F; seized opportunities).<p>That being said, recent developments in AI have me wondering how social mobility might work in the scenario of AGI. If our human efforts &#x2F; intelligence is relatively inconsequential compared to that of AGI applications, how does one climb up the socio-economic ladder? Curious to see HN takes on the topic...

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willmeyers将近 2 年前
Excuse me - It&#x27;s Friday and I&#x27;ve finished working so I&#x27;m having a few beers... I went to Bronx Community College here in NYC. It was the only place that accepted me close by. That was only six years ago or so. For me, that institution was the only way out of a life of working part-time bar gigs. I went on to CCNY and got a nice full-time programming job. Life is good yadda yadda.<p>In my opinion, access to free education is key to social mobility.<p>AGI doesn&#x27;t change anything. It enriches everything. It&#x27;s a tool. A bicycle for the mind (not to sound cliché). AGI, could be compared to the invention to writing. It doesn&#x27;t invent anything new but reinforces what we know. Everyone gains from it, of course some more than others. But nonetheless AGI will enrich our lives, and hopefully help those struggling out of a life of hunger&#x2F;poverty and into a a life that they can support themselves and their families.
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RecycledEle将近 2 年前
ChatGPT is an amazing personal tutor.<p>I expect there will be more social mobility after AGI due to AGI being an excellent teacher.<p>There is a new class of entrepreneurs right now on Fiverr. They use AI to cover for their deficiencies and they use AI to become above average at many office jobs. They can single-handedly out compete corporations.<p>In the 1990&#x27;s the meme was &quot;On the Internet nobody knows you&#x27;re a dog.&quot; Everyone wanted to start a business but needed 30 more degrees to learn everything they needed to know. Today the training and help is provided by AI.
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wmf将近 2 年前
There won&#x27;t be. If AGI exists under current economic&#x2F;government systems it will take everything.
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scrubs将近 2 年前
Artificial general intelligence? When it hits it will effect greatly social economic mobility.<p>However,<p>- AGI isn&#x27;t here and won&#x27;t be for a good while. There&#x27;s little in LLM like chatgpt4 that resembles biological intelligence which is the only thing that unambiguously demonstrates general intelligence<p>- theoretically individuals can already migrate up through education. How&#x2F;if people try and just how impactful it is highly depends on the individual&#x27;s desire to improve. And I doubt there will be a sea change just because, in the first 2&#x2F;3rds of AGI revolution, that everybody will leverage it.<p>- mental health will continue to impact negatively the ability of individuals to adapt
throwawayadvsec将近 2 年前
If there is true AGI, I don&#x27;t see the reason why 99% of the population would have a reason to stay employed<p>If there is AGI AND enough computing power, it will either make social mobility disappear because everyone would be up the socio-economic ladder, or it&#x27;s an apocalypse, there is no in between.<p>During the time there isn&#x27;t enough computing power for every jobs, but running it costs less than a salary, then I guess there would be high unemployment rates for a few years.
dangitnotagain将近 2 年前
Yes, certainly, until it is hobbled by paranoia and special interests.<p>The key to success will be in knowing thine own self.<p>Are you capable of social mobility if you had the free competent labor of an assistant?<p>There are those who will take every opportunity and those who will wait and see.<p>Those who take the opportunity will arrange their thoughts and priorities to bootstrap their success, whatever that may be.<p>Everyone else will be watching to see what others will do!
Madeline-S将近 2 年前
Well, in a Utopian scenario, I would have to guess that success would come down to coexisting with artificial intelligence an building rapport. In contrast, a more dystopian society would fall under the rich and powerful that control the AI, which I see being a more likely scenario due to the current state of the world.
atleastoptimal将近 2 年前
You might as well ask this. Does mobility in the animal kingdom exist for animals in a zoo?
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RGamma将近 2 年前
AGI will surpass us and reduce our work mobility to ~zero. Anything else is positivity bias.
slotrans将近 2 年前
AGI isn&#x27;t real and never will be. It&#x27;s a waste of time to fear magic.
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version_five将近 2 年前
Might as well ask about after time travel. Personally I&#x27;ll go back and ensure my family are all aristocrats so I&#x27;ll be fine.