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240W USB-C PD chargers are nearly here, says Framework CEO

103 点作者 chillycurve将近 2 年前

13 条评论

Springtime将近 2 年前
Will be interested to see if AllThingsOnePlace reviews it, as have been following their particularly in-depth power adapter reviews and their last review[1] of a Framework charger (a 60W model) showed it performed well both in efficiency and other metrics though not the highest performer or value in its wattage range.<p>Wouldn&#x27;t ordinarily mention a Youtube channel on HN but felt their detailed testing, comparisons and teardowns would probably be of interest for the topic.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=XyG8QEe6GIk">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=XyG8QEe6GIk</a>
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kitsunesoba将近 2 年前
I wonder if we&#x27;ll start seeing devices other than laptops that currently use barrel jacks for power shift to USB-C. 240W covers the vast majority of things even an enthusiast might have on their desk.<p>It&#x27;d be nice if they did, if only because there&#x27;s a single agreed upon way to deliver power with USB-PD, and USB-PD bricks hash out the details with the connected device to deliver appropriate power. It&#x27;s a considerably nicer experience than with barrel jacks, with the various different sizes and pole configurations they can come in and their &quot;dumb&quot; nature all of which makes it easy to plug in a brick that physically fits but fries your device.<p>It&#x27;d also enable better modularity, making it easier to replace the bargain bin bricks that come with some devices with something higher quality.
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CoastalCoder将近 2 年前
Is it possible for a (laptop + USB-C PD power charger) to support <i>multiple</i> charging rates?<p>My Lenovo Legion 5 has a 300W charger. Caveats: (a) I&#x27;m not sure if that&#x27;s input power or output power; and (b) it&#x27;s not a USB-C PD connector , but my question isn&#x27;t specific to this laptop.<p>Airplane A&#x2F;C power outlets aren&#x27;t willing to deliver that much power. And even if I was willing to slow-charge the laptop on an airplane or with my car, the laptop isn&#x27;t willing to cap the charge rate, so it&#x27;s simply not an option.<p>So I&#x27;m wishing for some scheme that lets me slow-charge a laptop in those situations, even if it meant having two different A&#x2F;C adapters.
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flerchin将近 2 年前
Waste heat seems like it would be a thing? Even at 95% efficiency (which is unrealistic), we&#x27;re looking at a 12W heater.
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dtx1将近 2 年前
It seems Gallium Nitride are quite the revolution in power density for charging equipment
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blacksmith_tb将近 2 年前
The Hdplex 250W [1] is pretty small, seems like it proves it&#x27;s possible at least.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hdplex.com&#x2F;hdplex-fanless-250w-gan-aio-atx-psu.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hdplex.com&#x2F;hdplex-fanless-250w-gan-aio-atx-psu.html</a>
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_trampeltier将近 2 年前
On one side, I like the idea (and I use it a lot) with USB C to power a notebook. I have a small 65W travel adapter and I can charge my beefy HP Z-Book (it even works with a 45W adapter) or my smaller Fujitsu U939. But both notebooks still have real charging ports too and normaly I use those. A real charging port are much less fragile when moving the notebook while plugged in. USB C is very fragile and it is an very, very expensive port just to load a notebook. When you use it as docking station, then, yes it makes sense, but just for charging everyday, I still much prefer a normal charging plug.
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sp332将近 2 年前
Great! I&#x27;m going to need something like fpx or fabpide2 with a Lenovo connector and at least 135 watts so I can avoid buying more Lenovo charging bricks for the couch, bedroom, second desk, travelling...
ajmurmann将近 2 年前
I have this dream where Apple releases the most amazing self-driving, electric vehicle and it charges via Lightning cable.
knodi123将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s super frustrating that if I want a 2nd charger for my macbook pro, I have to either buy an overpriced apple adapter, or.... what? I haven&#x27;t seen any USB-C compatible 140W chargers that are significantly cheaper than apple&#x27;s.... but I can&#x27;t charge my laptop with less. If I plug in my 80w charger, my laptop just goes &quot;bong bong bong&quot; as it turns charging on and off endlessly.
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gumby将近 2 年前
This really makes me think about use cases. Personally I want my laptop to be as light and portable as possible; some of these bricks are likely heavier than my whole laptop! When I need crunch I do it on a desktop or in the cloud (or these days &quot;...<i>and</i> in the cloud&quot;). So I edit code locally but when I press c-X c, g++ runs on some other machine.<p>I don&#x27;t really understand why anyone would lug around an enormous and expensive boat anchor, but I&#x27;m sure they aren&#x27;t idiots: they must get value from doing so, even if I can&#x27;t imageine what it would be.<p>One thing I love about capitalism is that it&#x27;s a huge parallel processing system for satisfying these different needs. If I were the central planning czar, the folks who needed the big portables would be SOL.
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fnord77将近 2 年前
why was 240W picked as the upper limit for PD? Why does there even need to be an upper limit?
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hfkwer将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m glad we&#x27;re finding faster and faster way to consume the earth&#x27;s resources.
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