Reddit Strike Has Started

Great! There&#x27;s a picket line I won&#x27;t be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit.<p>The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It&#x27;s the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I&#x27;m not going back.

There&#x27;s a good number of people saying this strike is meaningless and reddit&#x27;s API change will only affect a tiny % of users. I want to explain why I believe they are wrong.<p>Engagement is a power curve. Most content is created by a small subset of users. I think it is a fair to say that if you use and especially pay for third party tools, whether that be a client or something like RES, you are more than likely a power user. If you moderate a subreddit, you&#x27;re probably a power user. If those power users go away then you lose a large swath of content and moderation which negatively affects the regular users at other parts of the curve. It is not going to be immediate but this is reddit slowly bleeding itself to death.

Strike you say? That&#x27;s like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, &quot;I am so angry, so infuriated that you&#x27;re abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life&quot;.<p>Like it&#x27;s literally like saying &quot;hey I need you in my life&quot;. Do you know what message that sends? What would you think if your customers would say &quot;hey Im not gonna come for 3 days but I&#x27;m coming for the rest of the year&quot; ? Would you give a damn?<p>Reddit is a commodity. Admittedly a great one. Used to be at least. We&#x27;ll create another one or they&#x27;ll fix themselves, but they won&#x27;t unless they know you&#x27;re not going to use them unless they fix themselves.<p>No strike is successful unless you actually make them understand that they can&#x27;t live without you or that ••AT LEAST* that you&#x27;re doing your part.<p>Like, is reddit scared of me deleting my account? I think it doesn&#x27;t give a damn. Is reddit gonna give a damn if another 100k accounts start getting deleted along with mine? At least they&#x27;re gonna start noticing. And at least I can say that I&#x27;ve done my part.<p>Ive deleted my reddit account and I&#x27;m done with Reddit. Until they fix themselves and realize that acting that greedy and immaturely with lies about conversations that never happened between the Apollo programmer and &#x2F;u&#x2F;spez are not gonna pass. At least not from me, i&#x27;m fairly disgusted by the Reddit leadership.

I honestly didn&#x27;t expect this from Reddit. It seems like investors are really tightening their grip and they are banning subreddits and long-time users who oppose these changes left and right.<p>I built a free API emulating the Reddit API[1]. It was returning the same data as the existing publicly accessible .json endpoints on reddit.com (for example <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;Save3rdPartyApps.json" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;Save3rdPartyApps.json</a>). They not only blocked my requests, but also banned the subreddit I created and my 13 years old personal Reddit account (permanently!).<p>1 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;api.reddiw.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;api.reddiw.com</a>

Flashback to Digg.com... I hope the people currently in charge of Reddit know how that event played out... it was the single most significant stroke of luck a fledgling Reddit could have possibly hoped for.

To self-reinforce my participation in the strike, I logged out of reddit and disabled Reddit Enhancement Suite and the Old.reddit Redirect add-ons, and looking at the front page without those improvements (which I&#x27;m sure a minority of users use) it&#x27;s shocking how terrible the site&#x27;s UI is for the uninitiated. For the &quot;front page of the internet&quot; it sure looks like a bad Twitter clone.

For the uninitiated, $2.52&#x2F;month is what it would cost users to browse Reddit with Apollo under the current API pricing. RIF would be just $0.73&#x2F;month[1].<p>For comparison, Reddit Premium is $5.99&#x2F;month[2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;redditdev&#x2F;comments&#x2F;13wsiks&#x2F;comment&#x2F;jmmptma" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;redditdev&#x2F;comments&#x2F;13wsiks&#x2F;comment&#x2F;...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;premium" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;premium</a>

Hopefully this starts a &quot;battery&quot; approach to dealing with APIs, 3rd party apps, keys and a way for end users to quickly and seamlessly sign up to use services via 3rd party apps.<p>Why not..<p>1. User installs 3rd party app<p>2. You accept reddit TOS, an API key is attached to your account. It could even be integrated into apple&#x2F;android keys or user subscription models. You pay either directly to reddit or via your payments to the 3rd party app service fees<p>This could work for so many use cases. Why should developers need to do think about all this nonsense like key rotation, constantly changing pricing models, using round robin API key rotation because you&#x27;re hitting limits with one key, etc. Devs should just set up the experience so users can bring their own battery and plug in to start playing.<p>Just provide the backend. Let devs build cool 3rd party apps around it. Each user can just get their own API key that&#x27;s tied to them, either simple case like the reddit account, or its part of the apple id subscriptions + keychain.<p>Everyone makes money. Everyone gets to learn programming or whatever the fuck makes them make 3rd party experiences. Everyone can just be happy.

If we think we don&#x27;t care about Reddit because we don&#x27;t use the site, we should probably care. The future of Reddit may have a wide-ranging impact on the future of the Internet as a whole. Will content be created and consumed in walled gardens, or easily linked? Will AI-generated content flood forums and stifle meaningful discussion? Will moderation become an AI task instead of a human task?<p>The Reddit protest does not stand alone and is not caused by u&#x2F;spez or Reddit management or whatever. There is a vastly broader context here. What will be the lasting effects of a migration away from Reddit, or of a management change, or of a structural change in how this and other websites are administered?<p>I couldn&#x27;t care less about Reddit because I don&#x27;t use it and don&#x27;t like the posts and discussion on there. At the same time, I do care, because I know many of the Reddit users and moderators are also probably going to end up here, and for the above reasons.

They put an impressive amount of work into that site. There are notifications and an autoupdating counter, and even a livestream. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.twitch.tv&#x2F;reddark_247" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.twitch.tv&#x2F;reddark_247</a>

I think a &quot;down-vote everything&quot; strike could be highly successful. As long as enough users participate, it could cripple subs whose moderators didn&#x27;t choose to participate. And it is fitting. Reddit is trying to charge its users for content and data created for free by its users, so why shouldn&#x27;t users make that data junk for awhile to make a statement?

I scrubbed and deleted my account. I’m done. They will have to make major changes in their trajectory for me to consider making a new account. It’s even less about the API changes than the way that they treated Christian Selig, a CEO throwing an indie dev in the mud like he did is disgusting and doesn’t give me hope for the site improving for anyone other than investors and advertisers.

Is the inevitable fate of any social media site to be antagonistic to its most dedicated users?

Does subreddits going dark for 2 days matter? Seems like an insignificant ampunt of disruption to make much of a difference, or am I wrong?

Usually I am anti-internet stunts like this. The vast majority of boycotts are dumb wastes of time.<p>That said, Reddit should have built better mod tools before making their api change.<p>I think people complaining about not having 3rd party apps to browse reddit is &quot;meh&quot;. But moderators need to be able to do their jobs.

Great! For any other compulsive Reddit addicts out there with uBlock Origin installed, you can block Reddit as follows:<p>Click uBlock Origin extension -&gt; click gears -&gt; click &quot;My Filters&quot; tab -&gt; paste this line<p>||reddit.com^$all

I was on reddit 17 years. Needless to say, I have emotions.<p>Reddark, the Twitch stream, the Discord, the Lemmings instances popping up, the way people are talking about this situation. I&#x27;m so sad, and so FREAKING PROUD.

One of the magic things about reddit was it was acquired by Condé Nast <i>very</i> early in its life. They didn&#x27;t know what to do with it, so it was a bit neglected. That meant most of the time was spent on high-priority scaling issues, and there wasn&#x27;t time to squeeze it for money. This helped with organic growth because the users were real and engaged. The downside was they didn&#x27;t have resources to develop good first-party apps, and ended up depending on third-party developers for that.

The cheek of Reddits management is incredible. They&#x27;ve taken hundreds of millions in VC money hired an army of developers and yet delivered nothing to improve the user experience. All we seem to have have got out of is new reddit, a terrible, slow facebook like version of the site and an absolutely terrible mobile app. Where the hell did the money go? They use the time, labour, creativity, stories, humour, talent, wisdom, advice, skills of their users to try and make themselves billionaires whilst delivering a hopeless piece of tech in return, thats only been made useable by others people writing software to make the site bearable, Reddit Enhancement suite, Apollo, RIF. And yet here they are ready to make it rubbish again to get their filthy lucre. The more I think about it the more infuriated I get.

The strike is less meaningful when imposed by moderators enforcing it. It&#x27;s not simply a boycott of those using the app, which would be proportional. Moderators are dragging a lot of other people along with them that may not share the same opinions.<p>I&#x27;m scratching my head that the general attitude seems to be that Reddit just shouldn&#x27;t get paid.

I would also like to add that the dark side of this protest seems to be the &quot;walled garden&quot;-ization of Reddit. It&#x27;s entirely possible that post-protest, the website or particular sections of the site and users will continue on in a Private mode where accounts, authentication, credentials, verification are required for creating and consuming content to a larger extent than before, and content is not visible or linkable to or from this and other sites.<p>That will probably have a knock-on effect across the entire Internet. If users start to accept, for instance, account creation as the cost for entry for consuming content, the Internet will become a very different place. Reddit is one of the only big sites where you don&#x27;t need an account to consume content, and there are tons of links in and out of the website. Is that about to change?

As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this.<p>Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to one of the most censored websites in existence.<p>Huge portions of America now prefer censorship so Reddit has in essence created a moat for themselves.<p>If Americans were more accepting of all speech like before, Reddit clones would be easy to switch to. Now, you’re not only battling new censorship standards, but good luck getting on the IOS and Android store as a free speech forum.<p>On top of that, there are political benefits to this censorship. So that adds even more defense to the moat.

Thinking on how to forward from here.<p>Is the missing ADs revenue the crux of the problem?<p>Instead of raising API price, what if Reddit injects ADs as real content for non premium API calls, so those API free riders&#x2F;crawlers would get ADs indistinguishable from content. Well intended apps like Apollo could allow users to provide their premium identity and get AD free content. If this works, Reddit could even lower the price of premium account thanks to increase in AD revenue.<p>Also, I believe Reddit should share ADs revenue with subreddits moderators. This would truly align the incentive of all parties.

I suggest the title be updated to reflect the live tracking nature of this site<p>&quot;Watch the Reddit strike unfold live&quot;?

Maybe this is a dumb question... but why doesn&#x27;t Reddit lower its API prices to a point that Apollo and other app developers can afford?<p>Plenty of other companies have figured out how to price APIs in a way that works for developers: AWS, Twilio, Stripe, Okta, MongoDB, and Plaid, to name a few.<p>It&#x27;s not like these companies aren&#x27;t making money with their API pricing; they&#x27;ve all generated enough in revenues and profits to drive their valuations into multiple billions of dollars.<p>It&#x27;s as if Reddit didn&#x27;t do the basic work of rolling out API pricing: talk to customers, find price points they can live with, offer prioritized customer support in exchange for API charges, etc. Literally hundreds of software companies have followed this playbook, and have rolled out API prices without drama.<p>Am I missing something here?

Forgive me if I&#x27;m making a simplistic reading of this, but it seems the CEO has said that whilst apps and bots are making some good money, Reddit is losing money. Assuming Reddit has already taken cost saving measures (with 2000 staff maybe not), then how can they continue as a business losing money? I wonder if a model would work where all monetization of api calls has to be done through Reddit and the API itself, and they do a 30% revenue share with the apps?

What&#x27;s the endgame here? Why even turn the subs back on? The admins have made their intentions clear enough, I think.

Maybe Reddit can turn a this-could-be-a-Digg-moment <i>to their advantage</i>, in <i>increased</i> appeal to users, and maybe investors...<p>Given lots of revolutionary-lite public sentiment in recent years... when some other platforms are in the news for abusing and neglecting users, and the users being impotent property... Reddit ownership could renew its aura of empowered community of people with agency.<p>While Reddit still owns it, yet looks like corporate is aligned with &quot;the people&quot;, and not a doormat for backing down.<p>I don&#x27;t know the exact messaging to nail this optimally, nor how to reconcile that with revenue and investor optics goals (but a bunch of mainstream news newly muttering about supplanting Twitter, and a burst of adoption, can&#x27;t hurt).<p>My gut feel is that it could work, and I&#x27;m guessing that Reddit, of all companies, probably still has the institutional DNA to swing it better than most.<p>(Disclaimer: Am computers expert, not people expert.)

Small subreddits are largely not participating. Large subreddits I just browse from the All or Popular. I’m thinking if the large subreddits don’t inject things into the All subreddit than largely identical content will be injected and this will be a blip as small as the last protest that only saw the main subreddit names change and nothing more.

It seems that the site broke down and now redirects to a Twitch stream<p>&gt; Can I watch the website myself!<p>&gt; Afraid not, our site recently broke down due to the amount of requests, and for the time being we&#x27;ve resorted to livestreaming it. When traffic dies down we&#x27;ll put it back up.

&gt; others will go away permanently unless the issue is adequately addressed,<p>Without a very clear statement of demands -- what it would take to end the action -- that everyone (or at least majority) of those participating understand and agree too -- it makes this even less effective as a form of pressure.<p>Those planning on going away &quot;unless the issue is adequately addressed&quot;, what does that mean? Completely ending and reverting all plans to charge for API? That&#x27;s not what they say, they say &quot;adequately addressed&quot;, so that probably isnt&#x27; consensus (and probably isn&#x27;t winnable? Or reasonable?). Making the charges some kind of reasonable... so every mod just decides on their own if any change announced is &quot;adequate&quot; or not?<p>What makes a boycott most likely to be effective as a pressure tactic is if the target knows exactly what they have to do to end the boycott, and has some confidence that if they do it the boycott will indeed end.<p>Now, whether this is actually winnable here (and via this tactic) is another question, but you might as well do your best if you&#x27;re trying it.<p>I feel like at least some of the people participating in this boycott are just sick of reddit (and the internet, and society) and would be just as happy to see it burn though.<p>There&#x27;s very little discussion of strategy and tactics in this thread -- how we can actually win, when organizing collectively for collective demands. If we want to be able to win, it&#x27;s a good thing to think and talk about, not just react instinctively.

Honestly good riddance to most of the mainstream subreddits with powertripping mods. The same people have been moderating for free (because they are power-addicted) for more than decade and this is a good opportunity to start new subreddits.<p>Could it be that reddit actually wants the &#x27;strike&#x27; to shake up the stagnant subreddit&#x2F;moderation situation which hasnt changed for so long? If any of you is starting new subs, please post them here. It&#x27;s more likely they will be better than the tired old ones<p>This is one of the dumbest reddit protests and that s a high bar to cross

The website [0] appears to be down right now for me. Overload, or legal troubles?<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reddark.untone.uk&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reddark.untone.uk&#x2F;</a>

Of course, this is why decentralized alternatives like Mastodon have an advantage. There&#x27;s no equivalent group of managers to make such a horrible decision.

Reddit has been purging subs and users with reckless abandon for some time now as they cleaned up the place in the name of &quot;community safety&quot; (aka advertisers). I guess the monetized government kids that stayed believ(ed) they were the good ones, the worthy ones. If y&#x27;all think it will end at the API changes, you&#x27;ll be sorely be disappointed.

My prediction is that the “strike” will be utterly useless. It will usher in the era of full-spectrum AI moderation faster. The world will keep turning, and most Reddit users simply won’t care that much.<p>Cynical take? Certainly. I think this was always doomed to failure through eventual apathy.<p>Do I want it to fail? Of course not, but it feels as poorly thought out as Occupy Wall Street did.

With users deleting their comments, Reddit reducing API access, and other trends such as moving discussions behind Discord, this certainly feels like a Library of Alexandria moment: a gradual decline of loss of knowledge. Hopefully we can find a way to better store the wealth of knowledge that has been shared over the internet.

I feel like one day blackout is going to have an opposite impact as it might give Reddit a false idea that no matter what they do people will eventually come. Instead of one day, if people were doing it for a few months, it will be effective. But we know that is not going to happen.

Nothing will come out of this, in the same way that nothing came out of the “walkouts” on Facebook’s wall redesign and Instagram’s feed redesign from chronological to algorithmically-curated. And as a matter of fact user engagement increased with those changes.

Reddit has been doing a great job for my use case. Since I decided to quit it a few years ago they&#x27;ve made so many absurd changes that every time I land on it by chance I can&#x27;t make head or tails of it, can&#x27;t find the post, the comments, nothing.<p>It works great!

This probably seemed like a good idea to everyone but I absolutely hate everyone partaking in this now. I was previously on the &quot;fuck reddit&quot; side but this has eroded all of my goodwill.<p>Frustrating the people you want to support you rarely works.

If anyone is interested in how many of the top 250 subreddits are participating, I created a website for it here <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;save3rdpartyapps.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;save3rdpartyapps.com&#x2F;</a>

I’m planning to build up an RSS feed or two to stay up to date with the niches I go to reddit for and supplementing with discord when I want to read general comments.<p>I’m actually somewhat excited because the quality of most subreddits has tanked over time.

I thought the start is tomorrow?

I&#x27;ve dropped (\.|^)reddit\.com$ into my pihole block list to avoid any accidental visits during the strike.<p>I&#x27;ll really miss a couple of the good communities I&#x27;ve found there if this adventure ends up being fatal.

Just deleted the app. Not returning until Reddit undo this stupid decision.

This whole fiasco leaves me shocked and surprised. I never considered that Reddit would sink themselves this way. It’s incredible. Until the AMA, I really had hope they’d back off and implement a sane API pricing model. That apps like Apollo would survive, diminished, and things would mostly continue on business-as-usual. But now, well, that’s it I guess. It’s been a long, slow decline, but I guess this is the end of the road.

I just hope they don’t come here and Reddit the place up.

Screenshot: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloudflare-ipfs.com&#x2F;ipfs&#x2F;QmbjkWVyHEhwkwCZ6yfTEkz9fM1Sjab5FN674LvgDfeZx6" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloudflare-ipfs.com&#x2F;ipfs&#x2F;QmbjkWVyHEhwkwCZ6yfTEkz9fM1...</a><p>The live site has been difficult to reach. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Tanza3D&#x2F;reddark&#x2F;issues&#x2F;49">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Tanza3D&#x2F;reddark&#x2F;issues&#x2F;49</a>)

Has anybody done a writeup on the old vs new API costs compared to what it actually costs Reddit to provide the service? How is Reddit still not profitable?

Knowing the dev behind the site, he got 11k connections, the RAM finished and the server went down.<p>It must be a pretty stressful coding session now.

Reddit was 99% awful and this won&#x27;t make it any better.<p>If you want change, vote with your eyes and go elsewhere out of reach of absurdity.

I fund Squabbles.io to be EXTREMELY promising. I have no stake in it. I just really dig the simplicity, format, layout, etc.

Ironically, &#x2F;antiwork is not on strike

We know about reddark, but is there a list of the subs that are consciously <i>not</i> participating?

If the website does not load for you because of HTTP 502 or other timeouts, there is a Twitch stream at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.twitch.tv&#x2F;reddark_247" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.twitch.tv&#x2F;reddark_247</a> showing the protest live.

Have the makers of the 3rd party clients considered creating a reddit clone?<p>Technically that’s not too hard. Moreover, these clients have a large user base. Some even have revenue. I guess the most tricky part is content moderation.<p>Has this been discussed or proposed anywhere?

What is reddit replacement then ?

Reddit died a long time ago. It&#x27;s just a cesspool of one-sided arguments.

This would work better if there was a viable competitor to Reddit.<p>As it stands, there doesn&#x27;t seem to be anywhere for these people to go, so they&#x27;ll likely come back after a few days. Habits are hard to break.<p>Habits are a moat too.

This is so sad. I hope Reddit doesn’t die, because there’s nothing to replace it, but I also hope that it stops all the horrible decisions it’s been taking in the last like 5 years? I miss the old reddit.

I just can’t imagine this is the Reddit that Aaron Swartz would have wanted

Scrolling and seeing all of the green here makes me so happy that so many people can come together to do something they believe in. Brings me back to early internet. Very very very cool.

Having watched literally hundreds of sites rise and fall over the last 3 decades.<p>All I can say is this mess is not the exciting show it seems to be.<p>Quite frankly I&#x27;m most surprised reddit made it this far.

Great Visualization! My perception was that only 10% of the subs were going to go private. At the time of this comment, 87% of reddits are private

Reddit has gone downhill. My notifications are filled with only fans spam accounts that are now following me.<p>Is reddit even safe for younger folks or folks at the office?

Let’s hope Reddit consumes itself in this peer struggle.

Yet another heavy-handed action taken by out-of-touch leadership who doesn’t seem to grasp their very reason for existing - their customers.

I&#x27;ve never used a reddit 3rd party app or mod. Do they make up a large percentage of users? What leverage do users have here, any?

Honestly ... If it would not be for the campaign and media coverage ... I would not have noticed that anything has changed.

It&#x27;d be nice if there was a count of the total # of subscribers across all of the subreddits that have gone dark

If these protestors wanted to really impact Reddit, they’d also boycott all Reddit advertisers after a certain date.

This is why strikes are not that effective unless everyone does it. A handful of subs striking for a few days out of hundreds of big subs is not going to change anything. But sub-level Reddit censorship has gotten so bad over the past 5 years I find it hard to muster much sympathy, tbh . I try to share links or make posts and half to 3&#x2F;4 of them are removed even when trying to follow the guidelines perfectly.

This is ridiculous. I couldn&#x27;t speak for all subreddits. But for some of the subreddits I loved, it just shows how ignorant, arrogant and dictatorial they are. Those moderators didn&#x27;t contribute to the value of the subreddits. They don&#x27;t provide any valuable content at all. How can they move subreddits to private without approval from creators? This is fucking ridiculous.

What is a good alternative to reddit?

The strikers need to turn to the fediverse, open protocol systems, otherwise what’s the end game?

[shrugs] the mods will be deleted and replaced with a Mechanical Turk style outsourcing system.

Remember IRC? &#x2F;alt&#x2F;? We just needed IRC clients but instead we got Digg and Reddit.

We&#x27;re making HISTORY here. Massive kudos to all the redditors that are participating.

Doubt anything will come of this, but Reddit will probably not miss these folks.<p>I’ll see them on the new site

Oh no, gone for 48-hours... That will show &#x27;em! (meanwhile the Reddit IPO is in a few months..)<p>It should be permanent if these boycotters want an effective outcome, but a 48-hours boycott sends the wrong message and just communicates that it is OK to do these sorts of shenanigans and all they will get a slap on the wrist.

What is the point of making a subreddit private for 48 hours?<p>If approved members of a subreddit can still read and post, why not just leave the subreddits private indefinitely? Is public access really that important for some reason? This feels toothless.<p>It feels like making your Instagram profile private as a form of protest.

I am here for the first time because of the reddit strike.

I wonder how Aaron woupd have reacted to this descision.

Wouldn&#x27;t boycott be a better word than strike?

Logged on, down voted everything I could find, left quickly. Lets see what it looks like next Monday.

I saw r&#x2F;kpop in the list. You better not anger the most powerful collective in the internet.

This is an atrocious experience on mobile, but a fantastic website regardless.

My website, my rules, my API prices. Don&#x27;t like go somewhere else. Ez pez.

My subs are up though

hell yeah. burn baby burn. i fucking love reddit but i&#x27;d rather it die by implosion than see it live long enough to become slashdot

Hug of death

I also keep coming back to the metaphor that Reddit is a great deal like Gormenghast: an ancient, stony fortification of cobbled-together structures, housing a gaggle of idiosyncratic personas whose lives are filled with the performances of abstruse rituals and obligations, the mandatory detritus of a former glory — insular and in a state of glacial decadence, and which nevertheless has a secondary community plastered on its boundary, with which it perfunctorily yet regularly interacts AND YET all of which exists within a much wider world that has largely diverged from it.<p>I think about the Tower of Flints.

This could be Spez&#x27;s Stalin moment.<p>Ban these conspiring power mods and take over their subreddits with willing volunteers. Let the free-loading Apollo app expire and persist with the new API pricing.<p>I bet this seemingly cruel series of actions would actually improve Reddit. Reddit has a whiny upper class of power mods that take a little too much joy in watching something burn.<p>Show them who&#x27;s boss. Call the bluff.

662&#x2F;5279 = 0.12540253836<p>looks too tiny tbh.

I have to hand it to those app devs. The way they managed to dupe millions of Redditors into protesting was masterful.<p>They didn&#x27;t produce any good evidence that the new API price is excessive (some cherry-picking here, a deceptive comparison there) but they still managed to convince 99% of Reddit that it was true anyway.<p>Bravo! It was a beautiful exercise in propaganda and the delusion of crowds.

Who cares? Redditors are really too much. Hoping that everything has a good resolution only because I don’t want Redditors fleeing to other sites that are (blissfully) free of their “culture”. Already have seen an unfortunate influx of them on this site.