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Contra Marc Andreessen on AI

41 点作者 DantesKite将近 2 年前

7 条评论

janalsncm将近 2 年前
&gt; If we solve alignment, we can look forward to material and cultural abundance.<p>I don’t know what it would mean to “solve alignment”. I am skeptical it’s even a coherent possibility.<p>Let’s assume we had a perfect AI. It does everything we want it to but is much more effective at accomplishing our goals.<p>The United States government takes control of the AI and uses it to attack China. China would say the AI is misaligned. Or China takes control of it and uses it to attack the US. The US would say it’s misaligned.<p>Ok, you might say that the issue was that in the above case the AI was acting as a tool rather than an independent agent. Fine. Now, the AI acts on its own to further goals which would be beneficial to humanity. Very quickly we will want to disable it because we don’t even agree on what’s best for humanity, and even if we can agree on general principles any action will have externalities that someone won’t like.
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benreesman将近 2 年前
The idea of this stuff being “aligned” with any of the people talking it needing to be aligned scares the shit out of me.<p>A William Gibson Wild West is <i>way</i> less scary than exporting elite SV limousine liberal values into every nook and cranny of earthly existence.<p>I think the FAANG CEOs and those like them have <i>just plenty</i> of power already.
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theage将近 2 年前
Without a clear central point of his own he comes across as just another alignment virtue signaler.<p>I suppose he wants to us to consider super intelligence a foregone conclusion now that narrow reasoning AI has arrived, but climbing trees is not progress toward reaching the moon.
arisAlexis将近 2 年前
He doesn&#x27;t want to see it. It will ruin his investments now that crypto is no good.
ineedausername将近 2 年前
Same old story, meanwhile i&#x27;m still looking for the ai. Where is the ai...
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kaycey2022将近 2 年前
I think the article makes some good points. Andressen it seems wants to have it both ways.<p>&gt; Marc says that these models will soon become loving tutors and coaches, frontier scientists and creative artists, that they will “take on new challenges that have been impossible to tackle without AI, from curing all diseases to achieving interstellar travel.” How does it do all this without developing something like a mind?1 Why do you think something so smart that it can solve problems beyond the grasp of human civilization will somehow totally be in your control?<p>These are fair questions. I think Andressen is doing that for the purpose of boosting this hype cycle and lay his hands on more venture funds. But at the same time Andressen is completely right to ask for a &quot;falsifiable hypothesis&quot;.<p>The doomers have to mathematically prove that AI will kill humanity in all these ways to justify what they are asking for - completely restrictive regulations that will just entrench the current players in the field.<p>A lot of the fears expressed in the article itself seem to come from a very poor understanding of what these GPT tools are doing in the first place. At a wider level what is really misaligned is our misunderstanding of language and how central it is to &quot;intelligence&quot; itself.
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narcraft将近 2 年前
Wait for my forthcoming article &quot;Contra Dwarkesh Patel on Marc Andreessen&quot;