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Ask HN: Is Kick.com somehow using Twitch to not have to pay bandwidth costs?

6 点作者 Invertigrate将近 2 年前
For those not involved in the whole streaming scene, Kick.com is a huge rival to Twitch and they recently paid an insane amount of money (read $100M) to sign a contract for a streamer called XQC to stream on their platform.<p>I headed over to their site and saw that the user was doing their first stream and had &gt;60k live viewers so I was curious to see where they were hosting their servers and when I looked the IP up (99.181.66.216), it said Twitch to my surprise.<p>Now I&#x27;m honestly baffled and are they somehow exploiting Twitch&#x27;s embedded player to serve the content from them (do not that this streamer [XQC] is not streaming on Twitch at the same time, at least not using his regular account).<p>This is honestly the only theory I could come up with, but this shouldn&#x27;t even be possible since CORS should stop it, right...?<p>Anyway, immensely excited to see if anyone here on HN knows what&#x27;s going on because seeing a rival stream using their competitor&#x27;s servers is mind-blowing to me.

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wmf将近 2 年前
I think this is the answer: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;ivs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;ivs&#x2F;</a> It&#x27;s branded as an AWS service but it&#x27;s delivered over the Twitch CDN.
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smoldesu将近 2 年前
Twitch uses AWS to encode video, so the IPs may be identified as Twitch even if they&#x27;re actually assigned to generic AWS address space. That&#x27;s by best guess, I <i>highly doubt</i> this is a case of malicious abuse.
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8chanAnon将近 2 年前
Renting out bandwidth to the &quot;competition&quot; is not uncommon. It&#x27;s not really competition when you&#x27;re making money.<p>&gt;this shouldn&#x27;t even be possible since CORS should stop it, right...?<p>CORS is meaningless outside the controlled environment of a web browser. Besides, CORS is opt-in. Website operators can chose whether or not to share (it&#x27;s in the name).
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Blahah将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s not exciting. Sorry. The services that identify ip addresses are using the same data as you. If someone using a provider is identifiable with their shitty heuristics, they will label them. If not it&#x27;s labelled as the provider. There is not a conspiracy and not even a small reason to suspect malfeasance.
Invertigrate将近 2 年前
Now Kick is down - I wonder what happened.