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The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

161 点作者 news_hacker将近 2 年前

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paxys将近 2 年前
There comes a time in everyone&#x27;s career when they realize that the &quot;emergency situation&quot; they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out.<p>The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullshit and identify what is <i>really</i> important. There is no point losing sleep over the rest. It will be there to work on tomorrow, and the day after.
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Damogran6将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been in security longer than most job applications ask for.<p>Every security solution is just the same Black Box with a one-trick-pony in it.<p>After the 40th one, they all kinda blur together after awhile. They all have accounts and permissions and reporting and maintenance and update processes and a way to store the data they create...and a single line on a single tab on a single webpage that &#x27;does the trick&#x27;.<p>I&#x27;m with the OP. I&#x27;m tired of installing SIEMs when the leadership undergoes an upheaval and the new CISO comes in with some form of &quot;Everything you have is CRAP! My stuff is awesome! Warm up the forklift!&quot;<p>It&#x27;s all the same alchohol lubricated meetings in a bar with the same deep fried taquitos and the same fidget spinners emblazoned with the product name, usually a VERBNOUN.
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trentnix将近 2 年前
<i>&gt; I have similar issues with the agile methodology and its 2-week “sprints”.<p>Why are we sprinting… ALL. THE. TIME. Can’t we at least mix in some brisk walks every now and then a la high intensity interval training?</i><p>Following the fitness metaphor, the concept of <i>periodization</i> is an overwhelmingly common training strategy. Periodization turns fitness plans into smaller cycles that include active and passive periods of rest.<p>It’s recognized that these rest periods are where performance improves - the grind that came before was simply tearing the body down to induce the body to rebuild itself fitter and stronger than before. These rest periods are not a vacation, but rather a reduction in intensity and training load and often include cross-training and other activities that give the athlete a mental and physical break.<p>I’ve always been surprised some enterprising Agile consultant hasn’t jumped on the same concept to push the concept of recovery sprints, like like an Ironman triathlete will have a recovery week baked into their plan. I’ve heard of sprints that might be focused on technical debt or experimentation, but nothing about a reduction in velocity or anything like that. I think it would be an interesting experiment to try to help mitigate the endless grind.<p>Additionally, two-week sprints weren’t originally the norm. I left software for a while when four weeks was the most common sprint length and when I came back , everything seemed to have settled on two weeks as the magic number. I never got an explanation why.
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lubesGordi将近 2 年前
I left silicon valley because of agile development. Sprinting all the time was the thing that lead to my burnout, and when we finally released our app, the company was pivoting and &#x27;going epic mode&#x27;. I quit then.<p>In retrospect it would&#x27;ve been fine if I had taken a more relaxed attitude towards it all. Sprints don&#x27;t mean you have to literally sprint. Epic mode is just a narrative. Work at your pace and it&#x27;ll be fine.
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windex将近 2 年前
I personally think all organizations want to be cults with unthinking followers. I read every inbound piece from &quot;management&quot; like they are propaganda leaflets with an implied threat of violence. It helps.
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nine_zeros将近 2 年前
I was recently berated and given negative performance ratings for rolling something out 2 weeks late. The reason I rolled it out 2 weeks late was because we were in holiday season and the company CTO had asked people to exercise caution during holidays. But lo and behold, my management didn&#x27;t like that I was cautious. They gave me a negative rating.<p>I asked, &quot;Why was the 2 weeks so important? Are there any customers waiting for it? Is the company going to lose money? Why is the CTO saying one thing and you are saying something different?&quot;<p>There was no clear answer to it. Turns out, the managers have designed a game where they assign percentage points for things completed by the end of the quarter. My manager was getting lower points because I was exercising caution - as requested by the CTO.<p>It is these BS management games that made me realize that the industry is broken beyond repair. I no longer hustle to make managers look good.<p>Quiet quitting on exploitation is a fair trade. I ain&#x27;t sacrificing my personal life for BS games.
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fullshark将近 2 年前
Don&#x27;t know if this person worked at FB, but FB literally has its walls covered in propaganda posters, designed to &quot;inspire&quot; but I find them to be disturbing.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;facebooks-propaganda-posters-tokyo-photos-2017-1" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;facebooks-propaganda-posters...</a>
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commandlinefan将近 2 年前
Actually, I think it&#x27;s more of a &quot;I don&#x27;t have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you&quot; culture - which is pretty bad, too, especially when they spend all their time praising &quot;teamwork&quot;.
alexachilles90将近 2 年前
The worst is when you are trying to escape the hustle and changing your attitude to take it at your own pace at work but there is that one team member that buys into the hustle culture, sending emails at night, ticking things off their check list like their life depended on it, promoting the race to the bottom.
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FrustratedMonky将近 2 年前
It isn&#x27;t just programming. It is all of us. Self inflicted. Each of us is part of the system.<p>MOLOCH.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slatestarcodex.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;30&#x2F;meditations-on-moloch&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slatestarcodex.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;30&#x2F;meditations-on-moloch&#x2F;</a>
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rqtwteye将近 2 年前
One way to keep my sanity is to take a look at the big picture every six months or so. You quickly see that basically nothing has changed but there was a ton of noise in between. The same works for news. Ignore news for 3 months. When you read them again you also see that almost nothing substantial has changed.
ziroshima将近 2 年前
I enjoy my job and the lifestyle it provides. But as other have said, I tune out the &quot;emergencies&quot; and people panicking over it. It&#x27;s all BS and I think it&#x27;s important to recognize that. You&#x27;re going to die in a short period of time. Do your best while at your job, and pretend to give a shit while you&#x27;re there. But make sure to budget time for your family and yourself.
namaria将近 2 年前
There&#x27;s always someone trying to light a fire under your ass. Fear politics is how we got a police force at war with citizens due to moral panics. Would be authoritarians thrive on that shit. Salespeople want you to panic and close to escape the danger. Leadership wants you to exhaust yourself for their cause.<p>The real trick is realizing that&#x27;s bullshit 99% of the time. Special forces train you to take control of your fight or flight reflex. You need to decide when to unleash the adrenaline. If you lose that control, you&#x27;re in the whirlwind... Being grounded and tuning out the noise so you can navigate properly is a fundamental life skill.
fairity将近 2 年前
&gt; I’m not against hustle, but when the hustle becomes an end in-and-of-itself, rather than a means to an end, that is alarming.<p>Is it possible to hustle all the time &amp; not burn out? Yes, but it takes a special type of person who values the hustle, in and of itself, which is rare.<p>It&#x27;s important to realize that there&#x27;s no right or wrong with what you choose to value.<p>And, as an employee, changing your org&#x27;s values is probably an impossible task.<p>Instead, get clear on what your values are. Then, find an environment where you&#x27;re surrounded with people who share your values. You&#x27;ll be much happier.
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cdnsteve将近 2 年前
My reflection is this is a symptom of North American work culture. In the end, it manifests stress, lost time to decompress and a significant impact on your health.<p>After traveling to LaTam, we have it all backwards. Focus on happiness, family and health are where energy needs to be invested, before anywhere else.
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drewr将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s unfortunate and ironic that Agile&#x27;s legacy now apparently includes burn-out, when it specifically was designed to prevent it:<p>&quot;Agile processes promote sustainable development. The sponsors, developers, and users should be able to maintain a constant pace indefinitely.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agilemanifesto.org&#x2F;principles.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agilemanifesto.org&#x2F;principles.html</a>
outworlder将近 2 年前
While agile methodologies have a place, I agree with the author about this &#x27;sprinting&#x27; nonsense.<p>Not everything can be timeboxed in a couple weeks. Combine that with the daily reports... that sort of stuff works very well if you are working on your 78th Web CRUD app. It doesn&#x27;t work so well when you are doing something much more complex. &quot;Oh that&#x27;s what POCs are for!&quot; - yes but they are, once again, aggressively timeboxed.<p>If the &#x27;agile&#x27; industry wanted to design the Space Shuttle, it would have to fit in a POC, rather than taking a realistic amount of time to allow for proper design.<p>The sad truth is that no manager gets promoted by quoting that their project will take 2 years. They will say 6 months, with one shoddy demo at 3 months full of smoke and mirrors, and that buys them time to file &quot;bugs&quot; and &quot;improvements&quot; that will stretch the time it will take to 2 years anyway. By which time they are already going to be at another company.
honkycat将近 2 年前
Managing your attitude and stress levels is critical in the tech industry. I would argue getting invested is actively bad.<p>Not giving a shit and getting the job done is better than caring too much and constantly battling to &quot;improve&quot; things.<p>I can&#x27;t handle giving a shit. It burns me out. The best i can do is a &quot;good job&quot; on what i feel like is a reasonable workload.<p>My grandmother used to say &quot;The graveyards are full of indispensable people.&quot; It&#x27;s true. You leave a void quickly filled after you die. You might as well enjoy the ride.
lapcat将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve got one that can see! <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;DPZOi8EgcYM" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;DPZOi8EgcYM</a>
vinay_ys将近 2 年前
In my experience actual reality is somewhat different – at least at large Internet apps companies.<p>In high-functioning successful team, everyone is spending significant time in<p>1. discovery – learning things about the constantly evolving product&#x2F;functional domain and the tech, and<p>2. ideation – figuring out what&#x27;s important and how to solve it,<p>3. and some non-trivial amount of time in large team collaboration related activities.<p>But the problem is these activities (and their taxonomies) are not made explicit – their purpose is not explicitly stated; instead people participate in packaged rituals that are supposed to produce results. But because they do it without understanding it, they could feel like a cog in the machine.<p>But there&#x27;s also another big part of the reality – those who work themselves too hard and get themselves burnt out are also chasing personal career promotion goals and not succeeding at it.<p>Then, there are some who don&#x27;t even have that objective but have a broken work habit and get burnt out.<p>Of course there are other things at the worst end of the spectrum – bad manager, bad CEO, bad business, bad co-workers, bad vendor-partners etc – that can make things toxic and they get burnt out.
PartiallyTyped将近 2 年前
I view my work at AWS as being paid to deal with meetings and other people. Hadnt I bills to pay and mouths to feed, I&#x27;d be doing this &quot;work&quot; for free. Well, almost, I&#x27;d be coding all day, but I wouldn&#x27;t set foot on a single meeting.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s a matter of perspective? It sure helps that I am working on interesting projects. Maybe the diff is that this is how I am having fun.
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rhyme-boss将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m jealous of older generations that were at least compensated for their hard work. We&#x27;re expected to hustle all the time, for no benefit in our personal lives.<p>Software engineering is a &quot;high earning job&quot;, yet the basic shit it affords you isn&#x27;t even to the level of &quot;low&quot; and &quot;middle&quot; paying jobs of the past. You can grind yourself to the bone for years and still not be able to afford to buy a home and raise a family.
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throwaway22032将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t mind sprinting, as long as I&#x27;m in with a shot at the podium at the end of the race.<p>If I&#x27;m getting a normal salary, you get a bog standard morning run.
adamwong246将近 2 年前
As far as I&#x27;m concerned, it always was and always shall be &quot;work faster or die&quot;. I was unaware that we were given a third choice?
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tristanperry将近 2 年前
A great essay, and it explains exactly why I left software development (as a career working for someone else).<p>Too much of what I call emergency-led management.
xyzelement将近 2 年前
&gt; Just observe the colorful language from Bezos’ 2016 letter to shareholders: “Day 2 is stasis. Followed by irrelevance. Followed by excruciating, painful decline. Followed by death. And that is why it is always Day 1.” Is it just me, or is this just another way of saying: work hard or you will die.<p>The reason this author is confused&#x2F;upset by the Bezos quote is because they are talking about the same <i>sport</i> but a different <i>class.</i><p>If an olympic champion told you about their training and diet regiment, you&#x27;d say &quot;this sounds horrible&quot; but what you&#x27;d mean is &quot;it&#x27;s not for me, because I am not training for the olympics.&quot; On the flip-side if your goal was to be an olympic champ too, your reaction would be &quot;this is what it takes, good to know.&quot;<p>Bezos wasn&#x27;t setting himself up for an easy 9-5 and he wasn&#x27;t building a me-too company. He was building Amazon into.. well.. what it is, an absolute champion across multiple industries. And perhaps doing that requires what he describes.<p>If you&#x27;re not looking to build an Amazon and you&#x27;re not looking to be a part of the culture that can do it, then of course &quot;this sounds horrible.&quot; And that&#x27;s OK, just realize you&#x27;re saying that because &quot;it&#x27;s not for me, because I don&#x27;t care about that.&quot; It could very well be for other people - and those people might have greater wealth and work engagement than you do as a result. And that&#x27;s OK too.
IAmGraydon将近 2 年前
Why are we sprinting? To win. The business world is Darwinian. Sit back and relax, and someone else who is more motivated will eat your lunch. Why do we want to win? To make money so we can have what we want. If you don&#x27;t feel like you&#x27;re getting somewhere, maybe you&#x27;re applying force to the ground in the wrong way.
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2-718-281-828将近 2 年前
This journey 1 percent finished.<p>is my command of english off? this sentence is a lyrical way to write &quot;this journey which only 1 percent have&quot; finished ... not this journey is 1 percent finished ... ;D
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javier_e06将近 2 年前
I remember a phrase I heard on my martial arts class after many years of training: &quot;Don&#x27;t be afraid of bitter work&quot; It really hit home when our main motto was and is &quot;We Wei&quot; Effortless effort.
swader999将近 2 年前
You&#x27;re allowed to take a felt and mark up those posters. Management will be disappointed if a bit of humour never surfaced. Especially on April fools day.
Jemm将近 2 年前
Take the resources wasted on managing agile and put those resources in to actual work. Shocking how the job now gets done and workers are motivated.
johnea将近 2 年前
All burned out? Just wait....<p>Until you&#x27;ve been through another 30 years.<p>You haven&#x27;t even reached mid-burn yet...
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