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Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – 180W Power Adapter

53 点作者 MMS21将近 2 年前

7 条评论

humanistbot将近 2 年前
Two week old dupe: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36246309">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36246309</a>
chrismorgan将近 2 年前
&gt; <i>Beyond reducing environmental impact through efficiency and recycled materials, we’ve enabled longevity by making both the 2m USB-C and 1m AC cables removable, letting you swap a cable if your cat chews through it.</i><p>It baffled me when I first actually examined a laptop that used USB-C natively to discover that its power adapter <i>didn’t</i> use a removable USB-C cable. I’d just assumed implicitly that they would, because <i>obviously</i> you would do it that way since the cables are so frail and always fail long before the brick, <i>and</i> lots of people would like to be able to use a different-length cable.<p>So far I haven’t had an A–C or C–C cable last for even six months, with not particularly stressful usage. Nor have I had an A–Micro-B cable last much beyond a year in the longest case (normally much less). In all cases, they become unreliable. I’ve tried quite a few different brands by this point, mostly on the cheaper side of things but not all, and have observed no significant difference between cheap and expensive. They <i>all</i> fail.<p>Does <i>anyone</i> make cables that don’t fall apart ridiculously quickly, failing at the cable&#x2F;plug junction or within the Micro-B plug?<p>DC barrel jacks, they fail eventually too, but they’ve at least tended to last two to four years, which is slightly less absurd. My current ASUS laptop’s barrel jack became unreliable after a year and a half in a way novel to me: the metal of the jack has been etched by the latching mechanism in the laptop, to the point that it no longer works if sitting forwards or backwards, only up or down (the less common, and thus less etched, orientations for me), or if you unseat its latching by pull it out a fraction of a millimetre.
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hu3将近 2 年前
My current client-issued contracting laptop has a 230W power adapter. Runs cool and silent&#x27;ish during Laravel&#x2F;TypeScript webdev. JetBrains IDE barely manages to spin the fans a bit noticeable before it goes back to smooth sailing. So a 180W adapter no longer causes me to react much.<p>But I bet it would run pretty hot and loud if I toyed around with stable diffusion and a bunch more containers.<p>And then there are aboslute units like the Razor Blade 18 with 330W power adapter: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.razer.com&#x2F;gaming-laptops&#x2F;razer-blade-18" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.razer.com&#x2F;gaming-laptops&#x2F;razer-blade-18</a> (13th gen i9 with RTX 4090)
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rfwhyte将近 2 年前
How about a &quot;Deep dive&quot; into pricing already. My sinking suspicion is they&#x27;re intentionally holding back pricing as long as possible, as revealing how expensive this thing is going to be would cause the wheels to fall off the hype-train somewhat.
sneak将近 2 年前
That&#x27;s not a deep dive. It doesn&#x27;t even show the PCB.
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mcpackieh将近 2 年前
Virtually all of the electrical energy put into a computer is turned into heat, right? Some of it comes out as visible light from the screen and some tiny portion of it is.. converted into information I guess? But generally a 180W computer is putting out very nearly 180W of thermal energy, as I understand it.<p>My point is that laptops with 90W adapters can get too hot to comfortably touch, I think at 180W you&#x27;re well past the point where actually using it on your lap is advisable.
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josh2600将近 2 年前
So is apple just gonna buy this company or what?
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