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PHP packages for Ubuntu EOL releases put under paywall

21 点作者 bezout将近 2 年前

7 条评论

chomp将近 2 年前
I don't understand the post title. Ondřej does this in his free time, you're not entitled to his labor. LTS only lasts 5 years, you shouldn't be building out new systems on such an out of date OS. If your business processes depend on 18.04, then paid support makes sense.
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josephcsible将近 2 年前
I'm totally onboard with not providing new packages for an EOL OS, but trying to memoryhole the old ones is horrific. Imagine if everything deleted itself the day it went EOL.
angry18thaway将近 2 年前
Throwaway for obvious reasons.<p>I can sympathise the maintainer thoughts but only up to a certain degree. In a perfect world we would all be able to plan and upgrade accordingly on time and without any hiccups but this is not always the case.<p>We&#x27;ve actually been bitten by this and scrambling to find a solution as we are still running Ubuntu 18.04 on AWS OpsWorks (this is actually EoL and will be shut down next year).<p>Migrations steps are being planned but we still need to retain some services until we are done. This PPA worked just fine a couple of days ago, so paying Freexian just for the time we need for completing the migration seems kind of a stretch, for lack of a better word.<p>Does anyone know where to find a mirror of this (or even .deb files)? We could self host it for our own internal use until the migration is complete.<p>Thank you.
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Kim_Bruning将近 2 年前
I think the only way to get some people to notice an EOL is to actually make a system stop working.<p>This is so ingrained that I&#x27;ve actually heard of project managers having specific post-shutdown plans to transition users who only then notice that something happened.
branon将近 2 年前
This is pretty much how it&#x27;s always been, LTS gets 5 years of support, then after it goes EOL you can pay Canonical for backported security updates to important packages.<p>What I&#x27;m not clear on is the relationship(s) between:<p>* Canonical&#x27;s LTS lifecycle&#x2F;extended support scheme,<p>* the linked deb.sury.org repository,<p>* and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freexian.com&#x2F;lts&#x2F;php&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freexian.com&#x2F;lts&#x2F;php&#x2F;</a><p>It sounds like deb.sury.org is voluntarily halting _their_ PHP packaging for the EOL Ubuntu release, and recommending this alternative vendor Freexian instead (why not recommend Canonical ESM, do they not do PHP?)<p>The claim being that &quot;it&#x27;s not possible to build the packages any more&quot; but I&#x27;m not sure why this would be, necessarily. More a technicality because the upstream distro will be gone&#x2F;paywalled so a downstream PPA can&#x27;t reasonably provide support? But then how is the other vendor doing it?<p>(Looking closer, Freexian&#x27;s PHP packager appears to be the same guy running deb.sury.org so while it _is_ turtles all the way down, none of this seems unreasonable to me)
sacnoradhq将近 2 年前
Canonical proudly advertises that your system is vulnerable but can be patched with a subscription. They overly monetize insecurity, a user-hostile dark pattern. Ubuntu is best avoided entirely because of their insane, unreasonable leadership.
d1str0将近 2 年前
Bad title
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