Show HN: Serverless VPN, pay as you go, unlimited devices, no subscriptions

Kind of interesting idea, but looking at the per gb price, not really sure who this is targeting. 100gb is $4, which is at or more than the monthly price of many vpn companies. So downloading is out of the question, leaving only just web browsing really.<p>Honestly I feel vpns are just kind of like gym memberships, it&#x27;s not expected for everyone who gets one to use it every day, even though they could.

For streaming that doesn&#x27;t get detected as being via a VPN the only successful way i&#x27;ve found is to use a custom VPN server on an IP no service knows as a known VPN.<p>My home country has TV networks that refuse to work on any of the known VPN providers. They&#x27;ve actually gone to the trouble of IP blocking known exits and the VPNs don&#x27;t seem to change that often enough.<p>I know enough to buy a lowendbox and set it up as a VPN and use that and it works (provided the host is oddball enough not to be a known datacenter based IP). But i wonder if the above would work better than the more regular VPN providers.

&gt; Serverless! How? [...] We provision a VPN server on-demand when you connect.<p>You keep using that word...

This couldn&#x27;t at all be related to the submission 34 days ago talking about building a VPN on Fly.io with Tailscale (or even Headscale) could it?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36064305">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36064305</a><p>My take is it&#x27;s either a very quick copy, or the feds. Perhaps both.

$10 per month +$0.05 per connection +$0.02 per hour +$0.04 per GB (I use about 300 GB)<p>So in total: $10 + about $12 + $1.5 (30x connections per day) = $23.5 per month<p>Mullvad is $5.<p>Using the big 3 for a VPN is suicide. You do not want to host a business based on bandwidth on those.<p>A cool tech demo but definitely not viable as a business.<p>Also, why a California LLC?

Pretty neat idea, but it leaks DNS requests unfortunately: see point 5 &quot;When We Share Information&quot; in [privacy policy](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upvpn.app&#x2F;privacy-policy&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upvpn.app&#x2F;privacy-policy&#x2F;</a>).<p>If they used some sort of disposable or &quot;trustable&quot; DNS server, it would be awesome!

&gt;We provision a VPN server on-demand when you connect. &gt;We deprovision it when you disconnect.<p>Do you still share an IP address with the other users? One of the main ways a VPN grants privacy is because everyone shares a handful of IPs. There is still demand for dedicated IPs though, because they trigger blocking less.<p>I have a need for a good &quot;residential&quot;&#x2F;&quot;mobile&quot; proxy&#x2F;VPN service, but I have yet to see a company that I was confident that they were ethically sourcing the servers.

This is unrelated to the product, but I’m on mobile and I can see your website is using a full-height scrollable container instead of allowing the document to scroll naturally. This causes buggy scrolling and prevents default browser behaviour - the address bar doesn’t collapse and tapping the top of the screen doesn’t scroll to the top of the document.

I feel like this needs a pricing calculator. 3 different pricing axes makes it really hard to know how much you&#x27;ll use.<p>Perhaps you could present some common use-cases with example prices?<p>If you&#x27;re avoiding doing that because it should show the pricing to be too high, then perhaps that&#x27;s something that needs to be worked on. In general pay-as-you-go pricing should be lower for the same outcome than the all-you-can-eat version of the same thing, because you should be able to not pay for the downtime.

If you translate this site &amp; product into Russian, Farsi and Chinese and accept crypto, you&#x27;re going to a make a lot of money. Those countries activity block the well known commercial VPNs and I&#x27;m sure others.

I think a lot of people are getting tired of subscriptions everywhere. For the average user, it&#x27;s not possible to spin up a VPN because of lack of technical knowledge. So, if you are an infrequent VPN user and hate subscriptions, this could be a nice service.

Who is this for, exactly? The only way this makes sense, in my eyes, is if you&#x27;re:<p>1. Someone who uses VPN very infrequently, likely a couple of times per year while using less than 500GB of traffic, and<p>2. Someone who <i>doesn&#x27;t</i> use a VPN to bypass georestrictions, excluding most travelers, and<p>3. Someone who doesn&#x27;t mind being classified as a bot<p>That must be an extremely tiny group of people, right?<p>Pricing is outrageous for daily VPN users, while your use of datacenter IPs means it&#x27;s going to be almost useless for evading georestrictions.<p>Besides, I&#x27;m struggling to wrap my head around the concept of a &quot;serverless VPNs&quot;. If you&#x27;re actually spinning up a VPS for each customer then that seems like a very wasteful use of resources for no reason.

I know you&#x27;re taking a lot of shit from everyone else on this thread, but you should know that your landing page and onboarding experience are absolutely flawless, and that you&#x27;ve just made at least $10.

Just signed up after spending all day messing with self-hosted Algo &amp; OpenVPN. A real shut up and take my money moment.<p>Very slow and actually quite expensive. However, works well with Wireguard app on iOS!

The fact that they have &quot;Falkenstein&quot; as one of the German locations already tells me they&#x27;re gonna be using Hetzner VPS to provision the VM :P

Minimum charge, billed by hour and bandwidth, no mention of what provider the ips belong to, no bueno for me.<p>I&#x27;d rather just use Mullvad for €5&#x2F;mo.<p>12 hours of average usage for me would cost $4<p>Also: you say &quot;when you end your VPN session, we promptly delete the record from our database that links your session to the specific cloud server&quot;, does it also get deleted from the database backups? (assuming you do any)

Interesting - but expensive and limited! This seems to just be a different take on the company that did it first called ValeVPN.com - except they give you unlimited options and also multi-protocols and configuration options - and they work in all the clouds... So how is this better? It is more expensive and more limited? I like the design though...

This sure reads like a botnet being resold as a VPN service.<p>In other words, the pitch is suspiciously light on details that actually matter to back their &quot;serverless&quot; claim. The only technical way to parse &quot;serverless&quot; is that their exit nodes are spread over end-user devices. So how did they end up there?

$10&#x2F;month is already double what most unlimited VPN providers charge, and then you&#x27;re putting bandwidth and time costs on top of that? Even worse, for the ultra-premium price you are getting...an AWS IP address. So enjoy your CAPCHAs and service denials from bot detectors.

I love the no subscription, pay as you go pricing model. Is it a bit expensive than a full month for other providers? yes. I wish they made the data pricing cheaper or included in bundle. Quite hefty if you want to stream a show while roaming.

Does it work on airplanes and websites that actively detect&#x2F;deny vpn servers? any ad block features?

Just write simple script. Why this service is needed. Provisioning VPN server is not a rocket science.

so now the log policy is up to whoever owns whatever server they use?

Curious to know how long this VPN can survive in China

How can I pay with this with cash via snail mail?

seems very expensive