Internet Archive expands Flash support

529 点作者 sogen将近 2 年前

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I was just watching a YouTube video about Home Star Runner yesterday: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbh9-mNmviE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbh9-mNmviE</a>I never watched the series myself but I do remember hearing about it.In the video essay he talks about how flash videos like Home Star Runner were a unique medium. Not quite passive like a video but not quite interactive like a video game. The videos could be watched passively but also could incorporate interactive elements like minigames, easter eggs, and choose your own adventure stories.He points out that even when Netflix dipped into the choose your own adventure format they couldn't achieve the same flexibility as a flash animation because if for example they wanted to make a story change that would dye a character's hair blue they couldn't possibly film all the permutations scenes required to propagate that visual difference throughout the story.But in flash animation you can. You can easily let the audience choose a character's hair color and have that effect the animation for the rest of the story.The author of that YouTube video made me wish I could experience those cartoons and it makes me happy that places like the IA are making that possible.

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jonplackett将近 2 年前

The thing I still miss about Flash is the authoring tool.It is one of the few bits of software that bridged a gap between artists and creators and coding in a way that totally democratised creating interactive websites.I see some similarities with Instagram filters and TikTok effects. The visual-layout-you-can-add-code-to approach, but Flash was so mainstream and capable in a way filters aren’t.I wish Adobe had done a better job with flash and just converted the Flash Player into html5. Surely that could have been done?Website creation is far too complicated now compared to then and I think the level of experimentation - especially by lone artists - has plummeted since flash died.

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vsnf将近 2 年前

I couldn't find any easily available official notice, but they seem to be using Ruffle[0][0] <a href="https://ruffle.rs/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://ruffle.rs/</a>

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haunter将近 2 年前

Highly recommend "Winnie the Pooh's Home Run Derby". It's the Dark Souls of flash games<a href="https://archive.org/details/homerunderby_en" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/homerunderby_en</a>The japanese version is here (no difference) <a href="https://archive.org/details/homerun_20201126" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/homerun_20201126</a>They might crash in full screen though (some kind of bug)

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Alifatisk将近 2 年前

Part of me feel sad that the big players deprecated flash before any good alternatives popped up, HTML5 wasn't exactly an alternative yet. Flash was waaay more powerful, I think we lost a bit of good technology there.Hopefully we'll get it back soon.

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dumpsterdiver将近 2 年前

Possibly an unpopular opinion:Flash appears to have been a very capable medium for transporting intent, but the intent of that awesomeness was overshadowed by the shoddiness of the underlying implementation. Flash, in its various implementations, has always amounted "building a house upon sand". You don't have to search far to see this. It was an ignorantly thrown together security nightmare (ignorant in the sense that they had no idea how bad it actually was until the RCE's came raining down).

tagyro将近 2 年前

I have many fond memories of Flash. It was far from perfect, but it really brought together programming and art, to a level that I don't see today.Around 2005(?) I remember a Flash conference in Turin, Italy where I saw many great interactive CDs and games from artists from all around the world. Tokyoflash, Yugo Nakamura and many more creators that were building experiences which I have a hard time finding these days. In the latter years, there was FWA (Favourite Website Award) full of great flash websites (still remember GotMilk).And then came Flex and AIR, that made building "rich internet applications" fun.I left web development when Flash died and coming back to it now, after almost 20 years, and honestly, I don't think we're any better.Adobe being Adobe, never got to fix the security and performance of the Flash Player (a dedicated surfer can still find malware disguised as Flash Player).

j4ah4n将近 2 年前

They certainly were fun days back with Macromedia at the helm. Full suite of tools that worked extremely well together.I remember when Tim Burton put out various cartoons via Director (the same used for countless DVDs) that opened up more dramatic storytelling than the business “intros” offered at the time (I built these too mind you).I was even Flash AS3 certified at one point, something I was very proud of in my early career.Good times.

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dayvid将近 2 年前

Xiao Xiao was a nostalgia kick: <a href="https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash?query=xiao+xiao" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash?query=xiao...</a>

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lucgommans将近 2 年前

They link to a collection called "Software Library: Flash". How do I add something there? I've uploaded gravityrunner years ago and recently (45 days ago, the site tells me) figured out how to activate the emulator for this swf file (not sure why not offer to emulate any .swf file but ok), but it's also not showing up¹ in things like Flash game collections. Is there any documentation on this?Edit: wait, I think I found it. Below the About text, there is a filter for "AND primary_collection:softwarelibrary_flash". Probably I need to add that tag to my item. Now I wonder how I'm supposed to know of the relevant collections to put things in? Is there a list of all software categories?¹ <a href="https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash?query=gravityrunner" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash?query=grav...</a> whereas it is on the site-wide search: <a href="https://archive.org/search?query=gravityrunner" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/search?query=gravityrunner</a>

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justsomehnguy将近 2 年前

At some point Flash emulation would solve all the biggest troubles of the original Flash and.. became a new standard for a web-based inter/animation? Of course, having a VM with XP with Macrmedia director would be a problem for Apple M1/2/3 owners, but nothing a modern emulation couldn't solve...

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diggernet将近 2 年前

Sadly, flOw still doesn't work.<a href="https://archive.org/details/flash_flow" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/flash_flow</a>In fact, the motion of the little bit that it does feels much less smooth than I remember from last time I checked.

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nineplay将近 2 年前

The orisinal games were one of my favorite things on the internet. I'm so happy to see them back.<a href="https://archive.org/details/chicken-wings" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/chicken-wings</a>

Apocryphon将近 2 年前

Does this mean that previously archived sites that use Flash will now be viewable?

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BenFranklin100将近 2 年前

This is encouraging news. These sorts of efforts help save information from being buried in the trash heap of history.Is anyone aware of coordinated efforts beyond the internet archive to save data in old formats and media? I actually have information on 5.25 floppies I never copied over (my bad) that are almost certainly lost at this point. Also, I have docs in PFS Write format that will be PITA to recover at this point too. I’d have to dig out that old 486 that has been gathering dust in my basement the last 25 years to know for sure :) .

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cempaka将近 2 年前

Went looking for a good old article about fanimutation, this is quite the walk down bored-college-dorm-session memory lane: <a href="https://www.austinchronicle.com/screens/2002-01-25/84480/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.austinchronicle.com/screens/2002-01-25/84480/</a>

phendrenad2将近 2 年前

I have a theory that Google killed flash so that they could index the web more effectively. There were many old websites that were entirely made in flash (or java applets), and the content that Google needed to scrape was buried inside a binary flash file. Flash had security vulnerabilities? News flash: So do javascript engines.

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giovannibonetti将近 2 年前

Regarding a modern alternative to Flash, I just want to mention the Scrimba webdev learning platform [1], which leverages a custom built programming language [2] for making interactive courses and save the videos in an optimized vector format with a very small footprint.It was released in a Launch HN 3 years ago [3]. Personally, I have used the platform to teach the basics of frontend web dev to my wife, and it was a great experience.[1] <a href="https://scrimba.com/">https://scrimba.com/</a> [2] <a href="https://scrimba.com/learn/imba">https://scrimba.com/learn/imba</a> [3] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24579699">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24579699</a>

slowhadoken将近 2 年前

Last time I checked BlueMaxima makes two flash emulators Flashpoint Ultimate and Flashpoint Infinity.

lhball将近 2 年前

I had en elementary school teacher that made a website dedicated to flags games appropriate for students. It was amazing, FULL of games from my childhood: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050407011006/www.gamewing.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://web.archive.org/web/20050407011006/www.gamewing.com</a>If they can get that working I’d be ecstatic!

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endgame将近 2 年前

Wow, there are a few animutations in their big "unsorted" collection: <a href="https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash_unsorted" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash_unsorted</a> . Rewatching them brings back so many memories from High School.

WillAdams将近 2 年前

I hope this means that they will fix the site for the wonderful book _Bembo's Zoo_:<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050204004955/http://www.bemboszoo.com/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://web.archive.org/web/20050204004955/http://www.bembos...</a>

a1o将近 2 年前

Does anyone how to do this? I could tie existing wasm runtimes to some binaries that supports it (mostly old abandon ware games there that aren't flash), but when I asked around in forums no one answered there - or I didn't understood how their communities worked.

Bakingpotato将近 2 年前

huh, so the Ruffle technology is actually something to consider. Much better than the last 5+ years of flash 'alternatives' tried some games out, most look identical to FP somehow.

codethief将近 2 年前

So does that mean I get to play Winterbells and Yeti Sports again? :)

winstonprivacy将近 2 年前

Relevant:<a href="https://archive.org/details/flash-is-dead" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://archive.org/details/flash-is-dead</a>

NelsonMinar将近 2 年前

Compare with ooooooooo.ooo, recently discussed on Metafilter in great detail: <a href="https://www.metafilter.com/199981/Friday-Flash-Fun-Forever" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.metafilter.com/199981/Friday-Flash-Fun-Forever</a>

nathants将近 2 年前

working on a game right now. the second to last attempt was in godot 4. it reminded me a lot of flash, especially in 2d mode.to anyone missing flash go checkout godot!

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codedokode将近 2 年前

In case anyone is wondering how much CPU Flash emulator uses: "Isolated Web Co" - 12%, Firefox - 16%, gnome-shell - 25%.

temporallobe将近 2 年前

Great! Maybe now I can watch Stone Trek in all its original Flash animation glory!

epa将近 2 年前

Im excited for this! So much is archived on flash that had thought to be lost

mikercampbell将近 2 年前

Pokémon Tower Defense??

willhackett将近 2 年前

This is pure nostalgia

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anticensor将近 2 年前

I misread as "Internet Explorer expands Flash support" for a moment.

romusha将近 2 年前

No reason to still use shitty technology

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