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Ask HN: Do you feel excluded from HN/Lobste.rs/Reddit?

1 点作者 Lk7Of3vfJS2n将近 2 年前
HackerNews makes it hard to post anonymously. If you signup and try to post a lot of text or god forbid a Show HN you spent weeks building, it shadow bans you for at least five days. It forces you to wait before you can participate.<p>Lobste.rs doesn&#x27;t allow signups without invitation. What if you don&#x27;t know personally someone who is a user there to invite you?<p>Many Reddit channels don&#x27;t let you post unless the account has 10-25 points of karma and is ten days old. This doesn&#x27;t let you share something important with many people anonymously and quickly.<p>Do these policies of online forums make you feel excluded? Do you wish these sites ran differently? How would your ideal online forum run?

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dcminter将近 2 年前
&gt; If you signup and try to post a lot of text or god forbid a Show HN you spent weeks building, it shadow bans you for at least five days. It forces you to wait before you can participate.<p>Firstly is that actually true? I feel like I&#x27;ve seen any number of interesting posts from brand new accounts.<p>Secondly, if you have &quot;spent weeks building&quot; something it will not kill you to wait for five days to tell us about it.<p>&gt; This doesn&#x27;t let you share something important with many people anonymously and quickly.<p>Nothing springs to mind that is that important that:<p>• It can&#x27;t wait a week or two<p>• Would be of no interest to conventional news organisations<p>What specifically did you have in mind?<p>Because at the end of the day, without clarification, this sounds a lot like &quot;Spammer would like to know how avoid the spam filtering please.&quot;
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edent将近 2 年前
The problem is, without these measures forums quickly get overrun by spam.<p>So they use reputation &#x2F; points &#x2F; karma &#x2F; invitations as a proxy for trust.<p>You don&#x27;t have the right to demand people&#x27;s attention. You have to earn that.
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tredre3将近 2 年前
&gt; HackerNews makes it hard to post anonymously. If you signup and try to post a lot of text or god forbid a Show HN you spent weeks building, it shadow bans you for at least five days. It forces you to wait before you can participate.<p>I don&#x27;t think that is automatically true, I&#x27;ve seen many new accounts with a single post&#x2F;comment.<p>Maybe what happens is that the threshold for your comment to be greyed out is probably lower for new accounts. Same for flagged post, maybe a single flag is enough to kill a submission by a new account?
catchnear4321将近 2 年前
five days is nothing.<p>invitations are for hype as much as for filtering. diminishing returns. eventually invites get to those “you” didn’t want to invite.<p>there are subreddits to help you boost karma to get over the karma hump. ten days is still basically nothing.<p>these policies help deter bad actors. but not well. bad actors can plan ahead.<p>feel excluded? no.<p>there is no ideal. there are only attempts to mitigate humanity’s negative impact. some work better than others. none work great. humans are stubborn.
trexicong将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t think this is true of HN. Here I am posting a comment from a brand new account. Can you see it?
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