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Arc Browser 1.0

186 点作者 pps将近 2 年前

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thiht将近 2 年前
I’ve used Arc as my main browser on my work laptop for the last few months and I love it! It solves pain points I’ve actively tried to solve with Firefox, but couldn’t.<p>It’s no surprise HN is skeptical about « yet another browser », so here’s what I like specifically about Arc:<p>- it supports tab tiling. I can see 2 tabs next to one another easily. This is NOT solved with window tiling, it’s clunky and clutters the space.<p>- it’s vertical tab support is good, and beautiful. Firefox also has vertical tabs via Sidebery and TreeStyleTab, but it’s pretty awful. It hacks on side panels to implement something looking like tabs, but the look and feel honestly sucks<p>- theming is very easy and beautiful. Also it works by « space »<p>- lots features dedicated to avoiding tab cluttering:<p>1. Tabs can auto close when inactive<p>2. Links that should open a new tab don’t open a new tab by default, they open a pop-in that I can expand to a dedicated tab if I want<p>3. Links outside of Arc (in a mail client, in a terminal…) don’t open a new tab, they open in a unique Arc window (Little Arc), and I can expand them in a dedicated tab if I want<p>4. Spaces and profiles allow to organize the tabs properly<p>- it also integrates with a few websites, for example it can display infos directly on some non-open tabs. On my GitHub tabs, it shows the number of PRs awaiting my review. If I hover on my Google Agenda tab, it display a small agenda for the day without opening a tab<p>I’m sure I forget a few things that I like. None of these features individually would make me switch to Arc, but seeing all of it at once made me try it, and I don’t regret it.<p>Also their release notes are fun to read.
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Terretta将近 2 年前
In case you are interested in a wrapper for WebKit instead of for Chromium, but one that lets you use your favorite Chrome and Firefox extensions:<p><i>Orion Browser by Kagi: Very fast. Zero telemetry.</i><p><i>Lightweight, natively built with WebKit, made for you and your Mac. Industry-leading battery life, privacy respecting by design and native support for web extensions.</i><p><i>Orion supports Firefox and Chrome browser extensions natively. Whether you prefer getting them from the Chrome Web Store or Firefox Add-Ons... as well as bringing support for as many as we can to iOS…</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;browser.kagi.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;browser.kagi.com&#x2F;</a>
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bambax将近 2 年前
From <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.protocol.com&#x2F;browser-company" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.protocol.com&#x2F;browser-company</a><p>&gt; <i>Agrawal decided early on not to try and rebuild the whole browser stack, and based Arc on Chromium like everyone else.</i><p>Ladybird this ain&#x27;t. More like YACI (yet another chromium implementation).
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chrisoconnell将近 2 年前
It unfortunately requires an account to use the browser at all.<p>A browser, un no circumstances, should be log-in walled.<p>Seemed like a great user experience as a browser, but unfortunately I uninstalled it as soon as I launched it to a sign in screen.
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thejosh将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s another Chromium wrapper(?), and calling yourself &quot;The Browser Company&quot; is, IMHO, sketchy at best?<p>Requires sign in on launch... <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;89Oegnf.jpeg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;89Oegnf.jpeg</a>
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JohnFen将近 2 年前
Their website <i>still</i> doesn&#x27;t tell me anything useful enough about the browser to let me know if it&#x27;s something that would interest me. It&#x27;s all just marketing-speak.
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rswerve将近 2 年前
The best way to learn about a browser is to use it. No article is going to convey whether it will feel right to you. If needing an account is a dealbreaker, the consider the deal broken and move on. I&#x27;ve tried out a bunch of browsers over the past year, and Arc has been my default for a few months now. Being able to easily swipe between sandboxed profiles is great, and I like the rest of the UI. They also have a YouTube channel[1] that will give you some idea of how it behaves; scroll to the earlier ones.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@TheBrowserCompany&#x2F;videos">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@TheBrowserCompany&#x2F;videos</a>
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lycos将近 2 年前
A browser that requires an account to use? No thanks.<p>The &quot;why do i need an account&quot; popup doesn&#x27;t properly explain it to me either, syncing should be optional - let me use, or at least try, it without an account first.
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dang将近 2 年前
Related:<p><i>Arc from the Browser Company</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34795780">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34795780</a> - Feb 2023 (3 comments)<p><i>What&#x27;s Good About the Arc Browser</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33932045">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33932045</a> - Dec 2022 (6 comments)<p><i>Thoughts on Arc Browser</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33539549">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33539549</a> - Nov 2022 (83 comments)<p><i>The Browser Company’s Darin Fisher thinks it’s time to reinvent the browser</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33414565">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33414565</a> - Oct 2022 (90 comments)<p><i>Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31544988">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31544988</a> - May 2022 (125 comments)
rmdashrfv将近 2 年前
This is going to sound like a negative comment but I promise it&#x27;s not ...<p>Something really gets under my skin with the way they talk about Arc on their website. There is nothing on their website that means anything. Previously the headline of their website was literally &quot;Arc is a browser&quot;. Are you kidding?<p>It then went on to say that it&#x27;s everything I care about. Really? How is that? What do I care about? Are you sure you know what I care about? Then finally it asks me if I&#x27;m ready to let go of the old internet.<p>If you&#x27;re going to say stuff like this, I think most of us at least on HN would expect them to be doing something where the benefits are very apparent. Or at the least, they&#x27;d have rebuilt the browser from the ground up. It&#x27;s built on Chromium and therefore will have similar issues and limitations.<p>I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s anything wrong with Chromium, I&#x27;m happy to use such a browser but I think it&#x27;s time Arc decided to explain what their goal is using English, or something we can actually understand.
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cowsup将近 2 年前
I feel like a lot of these features would bode well on the operating system level, rather than the browser level. If I’m someone who uses the same device for both work and personal use, I’m going to want more changes than just which bookmarks I use or which sites are logged in. That’s why both Windows &amp; Macs have their Focus modes, or, for even more advanced use, different Users altogether, to separate all of my programs (or “apps”) depending on what I’m doing.<p>Changing the color of my browser isn’t really something I find worthwhile. Nor is moving the URL bar to the left; my monitor is more wide than tall, so it’s easier on my eyes and for moving my mouse to just look up as opposed to the left for navigation.<p>Competing against Chrome is interesting, although it’s still powered by Chromium, so nothing changes there. They are still at the mercy of features Google decides are worth pursuing, rather than W3C.<p>Otherwise… Good luck.
H12将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been using Arc for a few months now and find myself really missing it when I use other browsers.<p>This is due to a number of things, like the degree of UI polish and a UX I personally find very intuitive, but I think the biggest factor comes down to their features around tab management. Namely the following:<p>1. Tabs closing automatically by default unless explicitly pinned 2. Being able to group pinned tabs into folders 3. Pinned tabs remembering their original state (e.g. if I pin a tab, then navigate to some other page, I can click the favicon to return to the original page I pinned) 4. The ability to rename tabs to make them more meaningful 5. Organizing tabs into an easily-collapsible sidebar 6. Having multiple spaces for different &quot;contexts&quot;<p>These features may not be particularly novel, and I&#x27;m sure they could be easily replicates w&#x2F; extensions or add-ons, but the fact that things work like this by default and are super easy to manage feels pretty fantastic.<p>As an example, I recently started rewriting my neovim config, and created a new space called &quot;neovim config&quot; so I could quarantine the tab clutter away from my normal browsing. Then I pinned the GitHub page for my old config so I could reference it easily. And lastly I created folders for &quot;installed plugins&quot;, &quot;required plugins&quot; and &quot;optional plugins&quot; to help me organize the GitHub pages of all the plugins I&#x27;ve already installed, plan to install, or merely want to test out. Then if I run into any bugs or need to reference Lua syntax I can open a bunch of ephemeral tabs to stack overflow or whatever and easily clean them up once I&#x27;m done.<p>I know I&#x27;m probably sounding like an Arc shill at this point, but I do genuinely feel like Arc is helping me get this work done more efficiently whereas I feel like just about any other browser would be getting in my way. The simplest way I could describe it is it&#x27;s almost like Trello and Safari had a baby that somehow inherited the best qualities of each, with none of the drawbacks.
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Chevalier将近 2 年前
Ctrl+F &quot;Vivaldi&quot; -- no relevant comments? Vivaldi is impossibly excellent. How is Arc getting so much more attention?<p>Want vertical tabs? Vivaldi. Side bar? Vivaldi. Workspaces? Vivaldi. Mouse gestures? Vivaldi. Vertical space? Vivaldi. Customizable speed dial? Vivaldi. Keyboard commands? Popout mini-browser? Encrypted sync? Page tiling? Chrome extensions? Multiple types of tab groups? Excellent tools for inspection, screenshotting, etc.? Total anonymity? Everything comes up Vivaldi.<p>And what&#x27;s more, Vivaldi actually works for the USER. They spoof their ID (due to Google sabotage) that lets us use Bing Chat without switching to Chrome. They don&#x27;t even ask for your email address, unlike Arc. They&#x27;ll GIVE you an email system for free. Vivaldi&#x27;s openly committed to rejecting Google&#x27;s Manifest v3 that cripples user control over what information is collected by Google and what extensions a user can use in their own browser.<p>And yet Vivaldi receives virtually no attention or praise. And Arc has been showered with it for years, despite never shipping a product until today. It&#x27;s... very strange. This browser is everything I could ever dream of, and it doesn&#x27;t get a fraction of the attention that Firefox, Brave, or Chrome gets.<p>Link for Vivaldi, from the same people behind the original Opera: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vivaldi.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vivaldi.com</a>
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danpalmer将近 2 年前
Arc has been a pleasant browser to use, has helped me rein in my hundreds of tabs, and has boosted my productivity. As a set of <i>features</i>, I feel like it&#x27;s pushing forwards what browsing can be.<p>However, not every feature is a hit for me. I use the tab management extensively and enjoy the quick action toolbar. I don&#x27;t see much of their quick-action integrations with particular websites but when I have seen them they&#x27;ve been nice to haves. I don&#x27;t use the &quot;easels&quot; at all and don&#x27;t see any need for them or problem they solve <i>for me</i>. I don&#x27;t find the personalisation all that useful. This does all lead me to wonder if Arc is designed for me, or just happens to currently align well enough with my needs for me to find it valuable. Will they move in a direction away from what I need in the future? Maybe. I hope this is just a feature-maximalism strategy and that it continues to be useful for many in the long term, but I fear that it may become to the web what Hey is to email, where what I want is a more traditional Mimestream&#x2F;Mail.app.<p>It is not pushing forwards what the <i>web</i> can be, as I feel many people in these comments are wanting or hoping for, and to be honest I think that&#x27;s fine. It doesn&#x27;t need to. We have Mozilla, Google, and Apple, each pushing forwards what the web is in their own ways, in healthy tension with each other.
jm4将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s disappointing that there&#x27;s no Linux version. It&#x27;s a little silly for them to build on top of a multi-platform browser and then eliminate support for 2 major platforms. I had been looking forward to trying this.
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capableweb将近 2 年前
Dammit, I thought this was about Arc language (the language&#x2F;platform that HN uses, <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arclanguage.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arclanguage.org&#x2F;</a>). Guess I&#x27;m stuck with using Anarki still.<p>More on topic, seems it&#x27;s still a waitlist? I go to their page and see &quot;Join Waitlist&quot; and &quot;Coming in Winter 2023&quot;, so maybe page hasn&#x27;t been properly updated yet?
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MrAlex94将近 2 年前
If I&#x27;m not mistaken Arc is also a closed source browser. The company has raised $18M since 2020. How are they expecting to make that RoI for their investors?<p>Monetisation for browsers is incredibly hard, and doing it in a way that respects the end user is even harder. Curious to see their play.
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ktosobcy将近 2 年前
I was interested I trying it out, downloaded it, run. It started with odd animation and then prompted me to sign up. The rationale was to &quot;sync&quot; (not interested) and bug reports (can submit data while doing it).<p>It feels worse than chrome while being obnoxious about supposedly being &quot;groundbreaking&quot;...<p>arc can go shaft itself
ppetty将近 2 年前
You can’t please all of the people any of the time. Arc is great in its rethinking of several aspects of how we’ve come to believe a browser should work. Bookmarks, because of the way Arc archives tabs, are very different in Arc … but no worse than the abyss in other browsers. I seldom peruse the 2500+ bookmarks &amp; tend to just search. If a search product could search that abyss &amp; the web I’d be in an echo chamber; it’s a fine line … but all browsers could do better especially the ones run by a search company. Arc has some features I’ll probably never use, too; but they’re not in the way.<p>Hopefully the competition bodes well for end users with open minds.
KMnO4将近 2 年前
&gt; <i>Arc is built from the ground up to be private and secure. We don’t know what sites you visit or what you search for.</i><p>Immediately following this is a form for me to enter my email address so I can receive a download link. Sorry Arc, that’s not a trade I’m willing to make.
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dns_snek将近 2 年前
How is &quot;The browser company&quot; planing to make a return for their VC investors?<p>In other words, when is the rug pull coming and what is it going to look like?
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dlitvakb将近 2 年前
Been using since March, have not looked back.<p>It removes a lot of tab anxiety, and helps me organise actual useful links from things that are interesting for just now.
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neontomo将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been using it a few months now. It does some things really well - others not.<p>Great:<p><pre><code> - Picture in Picture mode automatically when switching tabs from YT, Soundcloud, etc - Swiping the trackpad with two fingers to switch profiles instantly - Clean interface - Clicking links opens a small window for you to quickly check the content, and if you want to continue you can maximise it, or you click the page in the background to return to the page you were on. Speeds up quick reads for me - Much thought into where to put UI elements - Some great shortcuts, like copying current URL (Command + Shift + C), clearing tabs (Command + Shift + K) </code></pre> Bad:<p><pre><code> - The sidebar design doesn&#x27;t always play nice with websites - The way you pin extensions is a bit annoying - I bump into bugs sometimes since it&#x27;s early days - I have no interest in using their Notes, Easels or Download system (easily ignored tho) - Settings have a very &quot;startup-hype&quot; membership card that serves no purpose, while also not having many settings for customisation. Weird choice imo - No interest in the auto-archive feature, but impossible to turn off </code></pre> Overall, I&#x27;m happy using it right now, and you can tell they put lots of effort into their updates, so I think it can become something quite good.
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dbcooper将近 2 年前
Anyone tried Kagi&#x27;s WebKit based browser?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;browser.kagi.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;browser.kagi.com&#x2F;</a>
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KomoD将近 2 年前
lol, I like how their homepage says &quot;Join Windows Waitlist&quot; when I&#x27;m on Linux
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karaterobot将近 2 年前
I tried this many moons ago. Mostly because I like when people try out new UI ideas. It was interesting and well done, but ultimately did not replace Firefox for me. I don&#x27;t know who it is for: it&#x27;s good but not obviously better than the big players, so what are their plans for it?
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racl101将近 2 年前
I bailed as soon as it presented me with a prompt to create an account. lol
jeron将近 2 年前
I’ve been using Arc as my main browser for the last few months and it is phenomenal. Congrats to the team
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chomp将近 2 年前
Runs on Chromium. Sorry, that&#x27;s a deal breaker for me. Using Chromium gives more power to Google&#x27;s quest for web sanitization for advertising.
Brajeshwar将近 2 年前
The Arc Browser Company raised $18M so far (via Crunchbase[1]).<p>It has been a while when I got the Arc Browser but I could not get myself to get used to the excessive feature. I personally am unable to figure out what to think about it. A younger me would have loved this browser but now, I&#x27;m (very personal) more of sticking to the basics&#x2F;native and spend extra time learning the tips&#x2F;tricks and the internals to be able to use a tool&#x2F;system more effectively.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crunchbase.com&#x2F;organization&#x2F;the-browser-company" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crunchbase.com&#x2F;organization&#x2F;the-browser-company</a>
jrflowers将近 2 年前
Love submitting my email to get a link to the privacy browser
fevangelou将近 2 年前
As YouTuber Chris Titus would very eloquently say, &quot;it&#x27;s pointless&quot;. Chrome with a bunch of plugins could probably replicate the same experience.<p>It&#x27;s also kinda patronizing to say &quot;here&#x27;s how the browser should work&quot; as if people are morons in 2023 and have no clue how to use a browser, let alone their supposed target audience. I&#x27;m not even touching the &quot;sign up to continue&quot; issue others mentioned...<p>The news should actually be they got $18M in funding for this (FFS).
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BeetleB将近 2 年前
Not seeing a reason to use this over Firefox. Sorry.
twleo将近 2 年前
Hard Pass for closed-source browser.
esafak将近 2 年前
I got both Arc and SigmaOS and ended up splitting my time between the status quo, Firefox, and SigmaOS. SigmaOS is fast and has an interesting concept but I have two decades of muscle memory with Firefox and SigmaOS uses a completely different set of shortcuts, which are admittedly reasonable on paper.
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mhh__将近 2 年前
Too many things called arc out there.
jFriedensreich将近 2 年前
My biggest issue is still that i cannot export all the data in case i want to switch to something else or they fail. Apart from this the UI concept is really what we need to move browsers forward and the new approach to tabs vs windows vs bookmarks is genius.
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ianyanusko将近 2 年前
A step in the direction of a personalized software future. Congrats, Arc team - rooting for you.
gcanyon将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve used Arc probably 90% of the time for the past two months. One thing that I haven&#x27;t seen mentioned anywhere (even in their literature): it&#x27;s very lightweight on memory usage.<p>I&#x27;ve noticed recently that Safari uses 1&#x2F;3 to 2&#x2F;3 of a <i>gigabyte</i> for each youtube tab, or gmail, or &lt;many other sites&gt;.<p>Arc uses roughly 25% of that.<p>Also, Arc&#x27;s efficiency as tabs build up seems to grow faster than Safari&#x27;s although that&#x27;s harder to quantify. But in concrete terms, Safari puts my M1 Air&#x27;s memory into the yellow in activity monitor almost immediately. Arc regularly stays green with 20-30 tabs open.<p>There are other nice things to consider, but that&#x27;s huge for me.
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zamadatix将近 2 年前
Does anyone know what the revenue model is?
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peter_d_sherman将近 2 年前
List of Desktop Web Browsers (over 200):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nerdyslacker&#x2F;desktop-web-browsers">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nerdyslacker&#x2F;desktop-web-browsers</a><p>List of Headless Web Browsers:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dhamaniasad&#x2F;HeadlessBrowsers">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dhamaniasad&#x2F;HeadlessBrowsers</a><p>List of Open Source Web Browsers&#x2F;Browser Engines:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ZeroX-DG&#x2F;awesome-browser">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ZeroX-DG&#x2F;awesome-browser</a>
renewiltord将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been using this browser all through the waitlist period and it&#x27;s great!<p>Some of the decisions I don&#x27;t like (my Bitwarden button is hidden by default which makes password filling hard - I don&#x27;t have it fill automatically on page load), but overall I&#x27;ve enjoyed using it. My favourite features:<p>- split tabs (I prefer this over tiling in the WM)<p>- little arc<p>- PiP works very well for video calls<p>- I have a bunch of apps pinned (ChatGPT &#x2F; Gmail &#x2F; Calendar &#x2F; Github) and a bunch of tabs below that<p>- I like the single action bar on Cmd-T<p>Overall, big fan, and I&#x27;d pay some amount for it probably.
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mthoms将近 2 年前
Arc&#x27;s tab management philosophy is really interesting; Tabs are transient unless pinned. But, discarded tabs can still be easily found in an archive if necessary. Mini-Arc is browser pop-up window that is tab-less and (mostly) without any browser chrome for quick, read-once pages.<p>Their whole approach is great for minimalists (especially for someone like me with ADHD) but will probably be hated by the many tab hoarders on HN.<p>If nothing else, I hope Arc inspires other browser makers to think outside the box with stuff like this.
mikelward将近 2 年前
Appears to be macOS only?
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ahurmazda将近 2 年前
Solid experience over the last 6+ months. Very few crashes if at all. Transparent weekly updates (yay Thursdays). Can’t get enough of my split views and spaces. Kudos to the team
awill将近 2 年前
I dislike when companies gives themselves names like this &quot;The Browser company&quot;<p>Just like the hotel in Las Vegas called &quot;The Hotel&quot;. Is it arrogance, or ignorance?
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notorandit将近 2 年前
They want me to give my email.to get a download link...<p>They know exactly what is needed for good browsing experience, don&#x27;t they? :&#x2F;
smcleod将近 2 年前
Looks like it’s just another chrome wrapper.
dmak将近 2 年前
&quot;Arc is the Chrome replacement I’ve been waiting for.&quot;<p>I can&#x27;t leave Chrome until I can replace Google&#x27;s single sign on
pshirshov将近 2 年前
Can&#x27;t find a download link for Linux.
wkdneidbwf将近 2 年前
i’ve tried arc a couple times and never got to the “aha!” moment. in a lot of ways arc reminds me of software from the early 2000’s that tried to do everything.<p>i think they’re doing some interesting stuff, but i just couldn’t find features or workflows that were safari-killers for me.
Cupprum将近 2 年前
I played around with it a bit. Seems like a nice browser, very clean. However this also raises some issues. For instance sometimes when i want to click some button on a website which is close to the border, the top or left bar pop up and i miss click.
Decabytes将近 2 年前
I thought this was the 1.0 release for the scheme that Hacker News was built on at first lol.
ddtaylor将近 2 年前
I absolutely refuse to touch anything that requires an email link to even download.
Sebastian_09将近 2 年前
it isn&#x27;t mentioned anywhere but it&#x27;s chromium based — which is of course is practical, but I wonder how dependent on Google that makes them and other browsers using it
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thund将近 2 年前
privacy: would be nice if it didn’t send the UA header, does it? I think it’s time to get rid of any server side logic based on UA and this could be an opportunity to start
tibbydudeza将近 2 年前
They decided to use Swift - it will need to be ported to Windows to gain traction and justify the VC funding.<p>The problem is that the Swift for Windows platform is not really a thing.
dizhn将近 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thebrowser.company&#x2F;values&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thebrowser.company&#x2F;values&#x2F;</a><p>I don&#x27;t think I want to have anything to do with this company. Super cringe.<p>I get the impression that Arc will be a form over function product reflecting someone&#x27;s understanding of good design and insisting on it. Not that I&#x27;d use a closed source browser anyway.
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sammy2255将近 2 年前
Another Arc? Im using Arc to track my gps data
jachee将近 2 年前
&gt; Enter your email and we’ll send you a download link<p>No. Never. Put the download link on your website.
ryanolsonx将近 2 年前
I love Arc. They&#x27;ve built a browser that&#x27;s truly so pleasant to use.
samcat116将近 2 年前
Been loving Arc for the past several months. No way that I can go back now.
albertop将近 2 年前
Why I need to create an account before I can even try it?
jccalhoun将近 2 年前
For Mac only right now...
spondyl将近 2 年前
As someone who has used Arc for just over a year now, I have a love&#x2F;hate relationship with it.<p>There are some features like the ability to &quot;peek&quot; into a webpage or Little Arc which is really handy for SSO popups without changing full focus to the browser that makes other browsers feel like a step down.<p>That said, and maybe this will change post-1.0, there were a lot of basic bugs that popped up over time like tabs disappearing from the sidebar, tabs &quot;syncing&quot; into the void because the browser blindly copied state from another browser, tabs that can&#x27;t be closed and so on.<p>Generally these are fixed and don&#x27;t happen all at once but when they do, it rubs up against the new features being touted to make you feel insane. &quot;Boosts are great but I just want the browser to stop interfering so I can do some work&quot;<p>Anyway, it&#x27;s a bit like stockholm syndrome sometimes. I love it and anything else is a downgrade but it also keeps hurting me but nowhere near enough to outweigh the benefits.<p>As far as support goes, it feels bit like they&#x27;re a victim of success. Almost every ticket used to get a response but now I rarely hear anything which makes the canned &quot;We value your feedback&quot; feel hollow. Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I&#x27;m not saying Support has changed. It&#x27;s just a somewhat unavoidable outcome when you start as part of a niche and the userbase rapidly grows, making replying to everything untenable.<p>In all, I&#x27;m glad there is a new entrant. Would a new engine be nice? Sure but differentiating a browser and building a full rendering engine at the same time is a bit of a tall order off the bat.<p>Perhaps if they had a cash generating machine already like Google did. It&#x27;ll be interesting to see if that changes in future (I assume it won&#x27;t be who knows) and they&#x27;re doing a lot of interesting work porting Swift to Windows (their strategy for porting Arc)<p>I&#x27;m still a daily user since things have been solid for the last little while but I do wonder how things might degrade (enshittify) given a future need to return VC investment. You can learn a bit about their monetisation thinking here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=eVda3zFLlhc">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=eVda3zFLlhc</a><p>Lastly, I&#x27;ll plug their YouTube channel which is interesting: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;c&#x2F;TheBrowserCompany">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;c&#x2F;TheBrowserCompany</a><p>Particularly the videofile series which talks a lot about their internal workings, metrics and so on. There are times that I&#x27;ve had bad bugs or a new feature was ill received and then the next videofile confirms they&#x27;ve seen that reaction in bulk too
itslennysfault将近 2 年前
Off topic, but clicking that link and seeing the &quot;X&quot; logo is really jarring to me. I heard it happened, but actually clicking a link in the wild and seeing that big dumb as-is Special Alphabets 4 &quot;X&quot; as a &quot;logo&quot; still shocked me.
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