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Depthboot – Your Chromebook, your way

247 点作者 lwhsiao将近 2 年前

23 条评论

rollcat将近 2 年前
I always loved the premise of the Chromebook: disposable device with a disposable OS; secure by default; your data is always backed up; if you have any doubts or problems you can always restore to the factory image and be back in action within minutes, etc.<p>I would love to see these principles implemented in a privacy-respecting manner: bring your own device, choose your identity provider (including self-hosted options that integrate with e.g. email or even plain old SSH), choose your storage backend (including other clouds but also e.g. Syncthing, SFTP...).<p>Immutable &#x2F; secure-by-default OS would also be interesting, but nothing else out there is quite like ChromeOS. NixOS&#x2F;Guix would be good candidates, but the underlying scaffolding is quite complex. Alpine &amp; OpenBSD are both radically simpler, but lack the aspect of trivially reproducible builds. Then of course there&#x27;s the question of providing a good UX on top of that base: I want to connect to Wifi, select the ID provider, type my username&#x2F;password, and start working. That&#x27;s an enormous gap to close.
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insanitybit将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m using a Chromebook 100% of the time. It&#x27;s a great experience. The primary limitation is that the dev environment is a bit quirky - it&#x27;s not running directly on the virtual machine, instead it&#x27;s in a container. This can lead to some weird stuff when you&#x27;re trying to do other containery things or if you need to run a nested virtual machine.<p>I&#x27;ve created a script to set up an EC2 instance, rsync changes from my project directories over to it, and manage the instance state to save money. This pretty much solves any issues.<p>I really like a couple of things:<p>1. It is the only OS that &quot;just works&quot; for me. It&#x27;s the only non-Windows that I can actually plug multiple monitors into and not have it flip out and freeze for minutes.<p>2. It keeps risky stuff (code development) isolated from sensitive stuff (web browsing). If I SSO in my web browse and install malware in my devbox I&#x27;m actually pretty safe.<p>3. I get to use debian, which works well for me.<p>4. It&#x27;s the only OS that feels truly multiuser. I can `ctrl + alt + .` to switch desktops to a totally different user and users are completely isolated with distinctly encrypted directories so if one person is logged in and another isn&#x27;t you can&#x27;t just access their stuff. This worked really well when I was using ChromeOS for work since my work profile was very isolated from my personal environment - I could follow &#x27;work profile&#x27; stuff like &quot;only install these extensions&quot; while doing whatever I wanted in my personal profile.<p>Basically it&#x27;s everything I want in a laptop and nothing I don&#x27;t want. The main limitation is the VM, but the limitations are sorta niche - I doubt many people need to run Firecracker.
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bhaney将近 2 年前
&gt; Does the Eupnea Project collect any telemetry?<p>&gt; No, setting up telemetry services is too much work.<p>Ha
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omjha将近 2 年前
I actually picked up a Pixelbook Go off ebay this week because I wanted a really nice quality laptop for Linux. Getting things figured out was kind of hellish (I&#x27;m working on a guide) but I was looking into Depthboot yesterday as a way to see if I could get audio working (the custom kernel seemed like it had better chances).<p>Ended up not working, as Depthboot requires you to build your own images and there&#x27;s a problem where the builder gets stuck on the DE step (and also the github seems to imply the project might be getting sunset?)<p>In my experience, follow MrChromebox&#x27;s firmware utility guide to set up UEFI firmware, use a recent kernel as they have good support for most chrome os devices, and for audio the absolute amazing <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;WeirdTreeThing&#x2F;chromebook-linux-audio">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;WeirdTreeThing&#x2F;chromebook-linux-audio</a> solved like 3 days of headache for me with one script.<p>I&#x27;d highly recommend it. Picked up an i5&#x2F;16GB&#x2F;128GB config for ~$200 and it&#x27;s hardware on par with my M1 Macbook Air, and the first x86 laptop I&#x27;ve owned with battery life to match, especially with Arch. Amazing value and I think my favorite linux device ever.
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nextos将近 2 年前
Very interesting, seems to support fairly new devices (e.g. Jasper Lake).<p>Although newest ones tend to have unsupported boot or audio (e.g. Lenovo 100e Chromebook Gen 4, codename rusty): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eupnea-linux.github.io&#x2F;docs&#x2F;project&#x2F;supported-devices" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eupnea-linux.github.io&#x2F;docs&#x2F;project&#x2F;supported-device...</a><p>Mapping between devices and codenames: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chromium.org&#x2F;chromium-os&#x2F;developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chromium.org&#x2F;chromium-os&#x2F;developer-information-f...</a>
kailiu42将近 2 年前
I was able to open the webpage yesterday. But today, now Jul 28 03:25 UTC time, it seems both the website and the github project (actually the whole namespace) were gone.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eupnea-linux.github.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eupnea-linux.github.io&#x2F;</a> --&gt; 404<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;eupnea-linux">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;eupnea-linux</a> --&gt; 404
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amilios将近 2 年前
Anyone able to give a quick rundown how this works without modifying the firmware?
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burnte将近 2 年前
This looks great, I&#x27;m going to try it on my Galaxy Chromebook 2, but aside from that:<p>&quot;git clone --depth=1 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;eupnea-linux&#x2F;depthboot-builder">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;eupnea-linux&#x2F;depthboot-builder</a> &amp;&amp; cd depthboot-builder &amp;&amp; .&#x2F;main.py&quot;<p>STOP GIVING INSTRUCTIONS LIKE THESE. Holy crap, people will copy-paste malware right into their boxes if we let this become the new normal.
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vlark将近 2 年前
There needs to be a way to do this same thing with MediaTek and Snapdragon ARM-based Chromebooks. MediaTek and Qualcomm need to let their firmware and bootloaders allow ARM-based Linux distros to be installed on bare metal. Too many cheap Chromebooks that schools purchase use ARM-processors and get consigned to the e-cycle bin when they can continue to be useful low-end machines if only we could easily get pure Linux on them.
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Jeff_Brown将近 2 年前
This is exciting. I was shocked to discover I could not change the OS on the Dell 3120 Chromebook I bought. Nor can I update the Chrome browser it includes to a version that understands HBO Max, which was why I bought it.
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madduci将近 2 年前
I find depressing that there aren&#x27;t binaries available, as everyone is required to build their own distribution from scratch.<p>Why don&#x27;t they use some hosted workers (GitHub Actions, GitLab Runners) to do the job?
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shortrounddev2将近 2 年前
I had a chromebook which required you to open it up and flip a hardware switch to allow write access to the OS. Have to open it up and push the switch with a little screwdriver.
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d33将近 2 年前
Previously mentioned Depthboot from Eupnea Project (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36888598">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36888598</a>), while allows you to install Linux distributions on Chromebooks, requires user to generate modified images with custom kernels, which is harder to maintain than mainline&#x2F;original distribution kernels. Meanwhile Chrultrabook project is actively contributing to upstream projects, allowing for installation of Linux distributions from original images thanks to proper UEFI support with Coreboot - this makes it more future proof, despite more steps required for Coreboot installation.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrultrabook.github.io&#x2F;docs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrultrabook.github.io&#x2F;docs&#x2F;</a>
b33j0r将近 2 年前
This project seems to be just gone now? All links in this post, and the repo, and the github account are 404s<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;eupnea-linux&#x2F;depthboot-builder">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;eupnea-linux&#x2F;depthboot-builder</a><p>Anyone know what happened? It’s been one day
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politelemon将近 2 年前
Can you share what Chromebook you have, and do you use it for light programming or something else?<p>The other day I read that there&#x27;s an Android Studio for Chromebook, which kind of surprised me, in a pleasant way.
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jordanreger将近 2 年前
just a note: the owner (?) of the project has gone on some sort of archiving spree, and has hacked (?) the discord and github accounts of the real owner...
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flapjaxy将近 2 年前
What happend to this project? It looks like the Github was deleted.
ilaksh将近 2 年前
I have a very cheap Chromebook that I have been using for everything for the last few months since my laptop fan stopped working properly.<p>I have Linux setup in the settings and use it a lot. For work I usually end up sshing in to a VPS.<p>It seems like a normal Ubuntu. What benefit does the Depthboot have?
asimovfan将近 2 年前
Somehow this doesn&#x27;t work in my tiger lake chromebook. Actually it works, but the final &quot;install-to-internal&quot; script fails, it somehow gets stuck at the wipefs command.
atorodius将近 2 年前
Is there a Chromebook people can recommend? I would like to replace my 7y old MBP woth one for light office work and such.
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hiatus将近 2 年前
Did anyone clone the repo and can post it somewhere?
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hattmall将近 2 年前
Long Live Crouton!
pjmlp将近 2 年前
Or better, never buy a chromebook to start with.
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