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A fridge from 70 years ago has better features than the fridge I own now

361 点作者 zhte415将近 2 年前

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quartz将近 2 年前
Wait is this actually better? It&#x27;s well presented in the ad but:<p>- that removable veggie holder in the door looks crazy heavy and super awkward to put back in place (lining up at a sharp angle while gripping likely slick sides)<p>- you have to open the refrigerator door to get at the freezer<p>- the door compartments are narrow and probably can&#x27;t handle odd sized containers<p>- the shelves have holes in them so anything that drips off that uncovered plate of food gets all over everything below it<p>- the ice ejector is completely unnecessary in our current world of ice makers. I doubt that fridge has a water line coming into it<p>- the shelves don&#x27;t look like they have adjustable height so you&#x27;re stuck with 3 shelves that can&#x27;t fit a gallon of milk
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idlewords将近 2 年前
My girlfriend&#x27;s mom has a teaching oven (used in home economics classes) from the 1950s. The &#x27;teaching&#x27; part mostly means it has a more accurate and detailed temperature gauge.<p>This gas oven is so heavy that light in the kitchen gravitationally lenses around it, but it&#x27;s still going strong and the best oven I ever used.
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helsinkiandrew将近 2 年前
70 years ago a fridge would cost $250-$400 - about a months salary, that&#x27;s about $4k in todays money. If you pay $4k for a fridge instead of $400 today you can get one with a fair amount of gadgets too.
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rascul将近 2 年前
A lot of those features are available in today&#x27;s fridges. Also, they use less power today. And you really don&#x27;t have to get one with wifi and a touchscreen.
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epolanski将近 2 年前
And how much power did it consume? What were the materials used for those fridges and paint? How much did they weight? How stable was the temperature in the freezer and refrigerator? Did those fridges had any mechanism to avoid frost formations? How much did they cost?<p>Point is, the needs of a fridge barely changed in 70 years, the only real expectation we had was that they would become cheaper to buy and run and easier to operate and maintain, all things modern fridges achieved to do.<p>I would also argue that the ice cube breaker is a non-feature and that shelves being so easily removable is a minus rather than a pro. The ones on the door would easily break and the other ones could be easily pulled (sending every other thing on that shelf on the floor) if something got stuck.<p>The door shelves also having all of those compartments lead to much poorer local cooling and are arguably worse for hygiene.<p>In other words: there&#x27;s reason why we moved from these designs, they had pros and cons and the focus was price and power efficiency.
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dustincoates将近 2 年前
This reminds me of the same types of complaints around air travel now versus the 50s&#x2F;60s. Both ignore the relative costs and the fact that you can still buy high-end fridges or first class tickets if you are willing to spend the same amount of money that you would have had to back then.
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seer将近 2 年前
A side not I always wondered why don&#x27;t we have refrigerator models that are &quot;split system&quot; as we have with ACs.<p>As it stands now it&#x27;s a heat pump that pumps the heat from your refrigerator into your home. Wouldn&#x27;t it be possible to create way more energy efficient model that has an outside body? Or even better connects to the AC body you already have outside? Like in the summer it would &quot;help&quot; the AC by being another AC itself, and in the winter it would effectively be &quot;free&quot; as it got its cold from the outside.<p>I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s a reason nobody has attempted this (complexity &#x2F; price) but was just wondering what the data point on something like this would be? Presumably with modern buildings this could be reduced accommodated, especially with geothermal AC being on the rise right now, would be cool to have all your heat pump systems connected to a single loop, sharing efficiency.
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marricks将近 2 年前
Some of those fridges are refurbished and still around[1]! It&#x27;s my dream to own one someday when my fridge from the 90&#x27;s dies.<p>Every couple years there&#x27;s a HN link to a blog post about how those appliances were built better in the day. Couple highlights I remember were:<p>- Parts were dipped in paint rather than sprayed leading to fuller and thicker paint coverage<p>- Motors had some changes so were actually built to last<p>Got to imagine fewer electrical&#x2F;mechanical parts that can fail as well.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;carolinasantiqueappliances.com&#x2F;Web&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;restored-refrigerators&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;carolinasantiqueappliances.com&#x2F;Web&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;restore...</a>
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mongol将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t think it is better where it matters. Modern fridges circulate the air to manage humidity and temperature better for different zones (meat, vegetables etc). Also, less energy usage and no ozone-destroying coolants.
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ethbr0将近 2 年前
1950-1970 seems like a local optimum in UX that we&#x27;ve yet to surpass.<p>My personal, completely-unsupported theory is it was a combination of 3 qualities.<p>(1) New types of things, while unlike anything that came before, were still simple and understandable enough that someone without formal engineering training could understand their use <i>and offer improvements</i>.<p>(2) Engineering was still seen as something that was approachable by anyone, and so more people availed themselves of the design tools it presented.<p>(3) Manufacturing was physically colocated with design, increasing agility to implement improvements.<p>Since then, we&#x27;ve moved into geographically disparate manufacturing of such optimized and tightly-packaged systems that as simple of an ask as &quot;Could that light be red instead of green?&quot; requires overwhelming machinations to design and implement, resulting in &quot;Let&#x27;s just leave it green.&quot; <i>(Repeat for every UX component of a system)</i>
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sireat将近 2 年前
In Europe you can not buy a home vacuum with decent power simply because it is the law.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;commission.europa.eu&#x2F;energy-climate-change-environment&#x2F;standards-tools-and-labels&#x2F;products-labelling-rules-and-requirements&#x2F;energy-label-and-ecodesign&#x2F;energy-efficient-products&#x2F;vacuum-cleaners_en" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;commission.europa.eu&#x2F;energy-climate-change-environme...</a><p>You can argue that the law is well intentioned and even necessary.<p>The end result is the same, my old cheapo Scarlett 1500W vacuum from 20 years ago does a better job that, AEG, Electrolux and even my new Miele. All of them are hard limited to 900W.<p>Then again is it really saving power if you spend 2x time using 900W vacuum instead of 1500W one?
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shagie将近 2 年前
One of the YouTube channels that I watch from time to time is a guy who is ranting&#x2F;passionate about technology.<p>The Antique Toaster that&#x27;s Better than Yours - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;1OfxlSG6q5Y" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;1OfxlSG6q5Y</a><p>and<p>How to design an actually good toaster with lessons from the 1940&#x27;s - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;bLk1cjZ4ll0" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;bLk1cjZ4ll0</a><p>It&#x27;s not a fridge... but similar design thoughts. There is a recent video about a fridge...<p>This goofy fridge has a really clever design. It&#x27;s also kinda terrible. - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;8PTjPzw9VhY" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;8PTjPzw9VhY</a>
oliwarner将近 2 年前
I think people are taking exactly the wrong things from this.<p>In demonstration, this fridge full of drawers and runners looks great. In practice, as soon as those metal slides, bearings, runners, etc get cold, normal household air will condense on them. They get wet, they rust, they&#x27;re suddenly the worst and need replacing. Bearing runners in fridges are just the absolute worst idea.<p>In the opposite vector, this is why older laundry machines were great: they were simple, powerful machines that never failed because they were just a motor and a rubber band.
JohnFen将近 2 年前
In my opinion, most (but certainly not all) manufactured things from 70 years were <i>much</i> better than the same manufactured things now are.<p>Things now are cheaper, of course. But I&#x27;m far from convinced that&#x27;s a good thing. It means that the things are disposable, and it&#x27;s one of the things that is advancing ecological destruction.
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Pxtl将近 2 年前
I bought a series of matching Whirlpool&#x2F;Maytag appliances like 5-10 years back. They&#x27;re all garbage. I already had to replace an element in the oven, it burns its own insulation sometimes and the glasstop takes eons to heat but then blows through the desired temperature and incinerates my food, the fridge has a light that flickers and it accidentally freezes stuff stored in the back near the vents, I had to replace a piece of plastic in the door that broke with some washers, the dishwasher fails to scrub things clean despite me following the best &quot;Technology Connections&quot; practices for dishwasher ownership despite how difficult it is to reassemble after cleaning (the clips <i>almost</i> fit together).<p>My kitchen is overdue for a remodel. I&#x27;m going to end up breaking the bank on a full set of Bosch appliances or something, these American-Chinesium products are clownshoes.
raydev将近 2 年前
Nice to see reposted previously viral tweets+videos on Mastodon. Mastodon has finally made it as a social network, I guess.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;search?q=fridge%2070%20years&amp;src=typed_query" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;search?q=fridge%2070%20years&amp;src=typed_q...</a>
erremerre将近 2 年前
This video from technology connections shows exactly the same but with microwaves, specifically one from 1997. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=UiS27feX8o0">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=UiS27feX8o0</a><p>What I don&#x27;t understand is, you have done the development, the cost of the rest of things is marginal. Why don&#x27;t keep giving those features into all microwaves manufactured by the same company?
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sdflhasjd将近 2 年前
I would hazard a guess and say this was probably expensive by today&#x27;s standards.
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_fat_santa将近 2 年前
My grandfather had one of these fridges that still worked in his basement. While it had those cool space saving features like slide out shelves, it was also significantly smaller than modern refrigerators (and I&#x27;m talking about a &quot;basic&quot; fridge, not those fancy french door fridges that are even bigger).<p>The other thing is the freezer section was not a separate compartment from the fridge. This meant that if you stored anything on the top shelf it would freeze just like the stuff in your freezer, not to mention all the cold you lost every time you opened the door (and speaking of the door, it was effing heavy).
criley2将近 2 年前
This fridge looks way worse than my current one. Much smaller and poorly designed.<p>The ice machine looks annoying and inferior (mine automatically drops ice and dispenses it through the door, no touching or work required). Mine also dispenses purified water through the door, a major feature missing here.<p>Over-use of door space for temperature sensitive goods is a classic refrigerator mistake as it&#x27;s the warmest section. Combined with the inability to control humidity for fruits vs veg, it&#x27;s clearly an inferior produce storage system.<p>I do also have a removable container for fruit&#x2F;veg, but mine is much better designed for real world use. I can&#x27;t imagine what a huge and thin door-cage-system would offer you. Total gimmick.<p>What we don&#x27;t get to see is how well the temperature is controlled ESPECIALLY between the fridge and freezer. This isn&#x27;t easy to pull off (and we have degree-accurate settings today) and it&#x27;s likely that this model runs a lot warmer than we are used to today, especially in the freezer compartment. There&#x27;s also questions about frost-free operation as many classic units required manual defrost cycles (taking all your food out) while my unit has automatic defrost cycles and guaranteed frost-free operation.<p>Finally this fridge would have cost $5000+ in todays money. Mine is better in basically every way I can think of and I paid 1&#x2F;5 the price. I bet mine will last twice as long, use a fraction of the electricity (cost significantly less to operate), and have a fraction of the environmental impact, too.
renewiltord将近 2 年前
Well, the patents on that fridge can&#x27;t be still in action, so why don&#x27;t you go build it? I suspect no one actually wants it because:<p>- vegetable shelf is in door<p>- veg shelf is hard to handle<p>- ice makers beat ice scraper<p>- fixed height shelves<p>- Freezer shelf pull out feature is how they are today, but you need to open this fridge to access them<p>- much lower capacity<p>Essentially, this fridge is worse than present day fridge but you could build it today if you wanted and have a failed fridge company that made shitty fridges.
starbugs将近 2 年前
&gt; Thing is, producing crappy, cookie-cutter, uninspired, overpriced junk that falls apart within 5 years (generously speaking) pays more to the shareholders. That&#x27;s how we got from there to here.<p>This summarizes it quite well for me.
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techdmn将近 2 年前
Certainly not the first to mention this, but see also: microwaves. I worked at a restaurant that had a microwave with precisely one input: a timer dial. To start the microwave, you turned the dial to the desired time. To stop the microwave, you open the door (ok, that&#x27;s two inputs). To add time, you turned the dial further. It didn&#x27;t beep a million times either.
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brenainn将近 2 年前
I bought a Mitsubishi fridge about 2 years ago that&#x27;s been going good. 470L french door model (MR-WX470F but I think that&#x27;s an Australian SKU).<p>No touch screen but the controls are capacitive which is a bummer. The ice maker isn&#x27;t plumbed, you fill up an internal container so no water line to worry about. Little details I like about it like how the ice draw is lined with foam to dampen the noise when the ice drops in. It has this weird &quot;super cooling&quot; metal-lined draw, intended for storing leftovers without freezing them. I never used it until I realised it&#x27;s really good at chilling beer. Made in Japan for what that&#x27;s worth. Time will tell if it craps out early but I have a good feeling about it.
nickdothutton将近 2 年前
Next time you speak to an appliance repair guy, ask him what appliances he tends to visit most and least often and what the failure modes are.
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jpl56将近 2 年前
Last year I almost needed to replace my 20-yo fridge because of temperature issues, condensation and short bulb life.<p>New equivalent fridges didn&#x27;t even had a door for spreadable butter, so I didn&#x27;t buy any without continuing searching bot the best one.<p>Then I realized the lamp never turns off when I close the door. The door sensor isn&#x27;t easy to replace, I just removed the bulb and bought a rechargeable closet lamp with a movement sensor online. 12 euros. Problem solved.<p>Btw I read here I should check the power consumption, we have a rather easy way to do it in France.
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MeteorMarc将近 2 年前
In Europe there are energy consumption regulations for household equipment like fridges, see: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;commission.europa.eu&#x2F;energy-climate-change-environment&#x2F;standards-tools-and-labels&#x2F;products-labelling-rules-and-requirements&#x2F;energy-label-and-ecodesign&#x2F;energy-efficient-products&#x2F;fridges-and-freezers_en" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;commission.europa.eu&#x2F;energy-climate-change-environme...</a> . What energy label would your fridge from 70 years ago have?
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c-linkage将近 2 年前
My wife is a brute[1]. She&#x27;s broken two of the plastic refrigerator drawers -- the vegetable drawer and the deli drawer -- which were impossible to repair. Yes, I tried super glue, but the bond never held.<p>It&#x27;s cost me $400 to replace both drawers -- 1&#x2F;3 the cost of a new refrigerator.<p>I wish I had one of these refrigerators; they look virtually unbreakable! And even if it did break, I could hammer it back into shape or weld it back together at home.<p>[1] She&#x27;s <i>bent</i> both her house key and her car key, and broken the car&#x27;s shifter twice!
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talkingtab将近 2 年前
I think companies could build refrigerators like this if they wanted to. And by wanted to, I mean if it would make economic sense for them. What makes economic sense for companies is to make the cheapest thing they can sell.<p>If you think about that last sentence, what they can sell is not &quot;what customers want&quot;. And therein lies the problem and the question. Why is it that those two things are not equivalent? The ratio of things that are what I want to buy compared to what I buy is surprisingly low. That ratio is probably highest at Ikea.<p>I use Amazon a lot and searching for &quot;things as I want them&quot; is surprisingly hard. I often search for something then try to find the best lowest price ones that have the highest ratings. Like which refrigerator has the most stars and the most reviews at the lowest price. Amazon does not want you to shop that way, because it would affect their bottom line. (thanks a lot amazon!).<p>So my take is that <i>how</i> we shop determines what companies can sell and that - in turn - determines what kind of things we can buy.<p>The stupidest example of the problem that I can think of is a dish rack for washing dishes. The number of really bad&#x2F;over priced products is enormous at both Amazon and IRL Walmart. One day (out of many) Walmart actually had a FUNCTIONAL REASONABLY PRICED DISH RACK. I bought it. Best dish rack ever. Best price (and yes it did come with a drain tray and eating utensil holder).<p>In my opinion it is stupid that it is so hard to find and pay a reasonable price for a simple functional item.
LorenPechtel将近 2 年前
Why would I want this fridge??<p>Why is the ice ejector in the cold space at all? That should be a countertop tool, it&#x27;s just wasting space.<p>Slide-out shelves increase the chance of knocking things off and they&#x27;re almost certainly not adjustable.<p>I see *one* good feature--everything in the door has covers which means it doesn&#x27;t warm up as much when you open the door. I&#x27;d like to see that in the whole fridge--everything is behind doors to minimize air spill and make it clear exactly where the load limit is.
culebron21将近 2 年前
I think 2 of 3 of the shown features are a bad idea.<p>First, the sliding shelves. I can see a package get stuck in the upper shelf, and then when the shelf moves, fall down behind, onto the lower shelf, making it impossible to push the moved shelf back and close the fridge. And it&#x27;s not something rare -- sometimes I have plastic bags freeze to the back wall. Or something sticking up into the upper shelf. With still shelves nothing wrong happens to these, but with moving one it does and would annoy consumer.<p>Second, the box in the door on hinges... As soon as someone lets it drop-open, they&#x27;ll have it break both the hinges and stopping points, and get feet injure. I had a similar thing happen with a piece of furniture. This will require a big repair of the entire door.<p>The ice cubes feature is interesting. But you have those in your fridges today with some bottle dispenser, etc. I mostly saw these features being idle.<p>So, as usual the featured fridge has nice features that failed the test of life.<p>My current fridge of choice is Liebherr brand, which makes them simple (no digital stuff), with very convenient shelves, and very quiet.
bastardoperator将近 2 年前
My mom still has the fridge from my childhood in the garage. It&#x27;s been working at this point for at least 40 years. I bought a brand new Samsung fridge, and it completely broke down within 9 months. Thankfully the State of New Jersey sued the pants off Samsung and made it where consumers could recoup their losses.
locallost将近 2 年前
The slide out shelves and the ice tray are nice, but the rest I would not want. It has a too specific use, e.g. ok you have a butter tray but what if you don&#x27;t want to eat butter. What if a brand shows up that makes butter twice the size, now it doesn&#x27;t fit anymore. Etc.
someguy7250将近 2 年前
I recently found my old HTC phone and it had a &quot;fastboot&quot; feature. The boot time is just 4 seconds.<p>I hope old tech gets a comeback. I hope it creates more local jobs for phone repairs and software customizations. But it&#x27;s probably just me being stupid.
nathancahill将近 2 年前
Just today I was using my soldering iron passed down from the 1960s. Heats up to full heat in 2 seconds and has fantastic flow control. Nothing similar exists today under $600 (although that&#x27;s likely the inflation-adjusted price).
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gpvos将近 2 年前
Relevant classic: The antique toaster that&#x27;s better than yours: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1OfxlSG6q5Y">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1OfxlSG6q5Y</a> [video]
francisofascii将近 2 年前
The ice cube extraction feature is pretty cool. Have never seen that before. Do modern refrigerators have that? (I get that we have ice cube maker features, but those can fail before the refrigerator does.)
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hindsightbias将近 2 年前
There was some initiative years back that so many world problems would be solved by giving everyone access to a fridge.<p>But does that still work out if it&#x27;s a crappy fridge that fails every few years?
MostlyStable将近 2 年前
I agree with some of the comments that this fridge doesn&#x27;t actually seem that much better than modern fridges (other than _not_ having some of the worst modern features, but you can still get fridges without those).<p>However, it does seem to me like _lots_ of things are getting worse over time, through a combination of removal of features (phones: IR blaster, FM radio, headphone jack, etc), addition of features (kitchen appliances: wifi connectivity, touchscreens, etc.), or lack of repairability (everything).
K0balt将近 2 年前
But, those are all physical features that cost money to produce each one!<p>Surely an app that can be cobbled together from some no code framework that we will stop maintaining in 18 months (but you can’t defrost or adjust your temperature without it) will add just as much value, but at zero marginal cost!<p>Plus, we can’t harvest data from useful physical features!<p>Bits &gt; bolts!<p>But the worst part is , bits&gt;bolts is actually very applicable in many cases.<p>It’s just universal enshitification that has made that axiom in to a sad joke.
gbraad将近 2 年前
And the feature is: &quot;still operational after decades&quot;<p>Built like a tank. Imagine Indiana Jones getting onto a fridge from now and try to survive a nuclear blast.
dirtyid将近 2 年前
Decades of value engineering reduced cost of appliances that consumer electronics makers need to add bell and whistles to capture more value i.e. there&#x27;s recent article about Samsung wanting to milk billions in live services from smart appliances. It&#x27;s dumb but it is what it is when fridge design reach marginal returns on core features like keeping things cold.
kozzz将近 2 年前
The failure mode for pre-80s compressors was to continue heating up until the windings short out.
ElectronBadger将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s also freon-propelled and contains elements made of lead. Thanks, but no.
spacecadet将近 2 年前
You can definitely still buy dumb fridges, TVs, toasters, etc that are all well made and when adjusted for price are similar in cost... Its just hype noise selling bottom line Internet of Shit, dont listen.
sampo将近 2 年前
I put a high value on inverter compressor, so the fridge&#x27;s heat pump can run at low power all the time. Instead of being regulated on and off, with that loud &quot;thunk&quot; sound.
neuralRiot将近 2 年前
I hink the only feature that one has than not modern one does is that it will work for 20 years. Probably would be 0.25x the efficiency of a modern one though.
johnea将近 2 年前
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alberth将近 2 年前
People love cheap things.<p>Cheap things mean there are made disposable.<p>We have way more options today to make cheap disposable goods than what existed 70 years ago.
gok将近 2 年前
Besides being power hungry and small, these fridges also had mechanical latches, which trapped and killed dozens of children per year.
pfdietz将近 2 年前
Many of the failures I&#x27;ve seen in modern appliances are failures of the control board. It ends up not worth repairing them.
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dahwolf将近 2 年前
The more awkward differences compared to now are much larger families and home cooking being the standard.
SteveNuts将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s sad that when I see things like this I think &quot;wow all I see is more shit to break&quot;
uhtred将近 2 年前
But my fridge today has wifi and an app so i can check it&#x27;s still on when i&#x27;m on vacation.
rhaway84773将近 2 年前
I’m curious what features in that fridge in the ad the authors current fridge doesn’t have?
LocalH将近 2 年前
Modern capitalism is about figuring out exactly how much you can enshittify something, and how much money you can charge for those enshittified products.<p>The old ideal of &quot;make really good, quality products and you&#x27;ll prosper&quot; has given way to &quot;make really shitty products that people will pay for anyway, and you&#x27;ll prosper <i>more</i>&quot;
sva_将近 2 年前
You mustn&#x27;t compare your low budget car with a Lamborghini?
lakomen将近 2 年前
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cmsonger将近 2 年前
I wonder what it would cost to make &#x2F; sell.
toss1将近 2 年前
Very true. Many solid comments deriding the current generations of wifi-enabled (and randomly disabled when they shut off the servers) carp, but the seventh comment down nails it:<p>&gt;&gt; &quot;capitalism breeds innovation&quot; haha<p>Indeed, in many areas, &#x27;capitalism&#x27; has not produced innovation that benefits anyone using the products, but merely increases the ratio of cash extracted from buyers in return for reduced value provided by sellers.
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Vicinity9635将近 2 年前
lol @ mastdn.social
bayindirh将近 2 年前
The most enlightening comment is &quot;capitalism breeds innovation&quot; (told sarcastically), but it&#x27;s incomplete.<p>The complete version is &quot;Capitalism breeds innovation for getting consumers&#x27; money out of their hands&quot;.
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Apreche将近 2 年前
The fridge from 70 years ago was an extreme luxury item. Most people could not afford one. Nowadays we have refrigeration so cheap and accessible to all.<p>If you want a fair comparison, go spend $20k+ on big fancy commercial refrigerator. I guarantee it will be better than the &#x27;50s model.<p>Just to throw one more comparison. It is not shocking to say that a Rolex watch or a Leica camera from decades ago is better than a Swatch or a cheap point+shoot today.<p>TL;DR: It&#x27;s not true that they were better at making things in the olden times. It&#x27;s true that luxury high end goods are superior to mass produced goods.
vpastore将近 2 年前
and it cost like 5k$
ReptileMan将近 2 年前
What about microwaves - two buttons - power and time. Right now you have 100000 buttons and everything is confusing.
toldyouso2022将近 2 年前
Fiat money vs sound money. With fiat money if you produce things that last you get money that devalues over time but no recurring income. Your company fails. With sound money, money don&#x27;t devalue as easily, you can produce things that last. Also there may be a psychological effect on giving money more value and therefore wanting more from the things you exchange them for.<p>Just some thoughts