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Marijuana addiction: those struggling often face skepticism

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neonate将近 2 年前
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extr将近 2 年前
When I was in my early 20s I would probably say I had a dependence on cannabis. Key for me in transitioning away from that was lower THC % products. It&#x27;s was as if I wanted to enjoy a single beer after work but the only thing available was everclear. Most vape pens are billed as 85%+ THC. Now, I still enjoy cannabis, but I have a single puff of a vape pen that is around 3% THC (the rest is usually CBD) before bed. Or I take an edible that is 1.5mg THC (very low, edibles are usually sold at 5-10mg doses). It&#x27;s a much different relationship. I don&#x27;t feel like my mind is racing out of control, I don&#x27;t build up a massive tolerance. I sleep fine without it. It&#x27;s startling to think that a single puff of a 90% pen is literally 30x as much THC.<p>However, these products are disappointingly few and far between. When I walk into a CA dispensary, I actually have to hunt around for them, if they&#x27;re even available. When I ask, staff members wonder if I&#x27;m buying it for my grandmother! It would be great to see the industry refocus on products that are designed to be consumed in moderation.
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ilteris将近 2 年前
I was consuming 5-6 grams a day for over a year until 3 months ago after weed got super easy to find in my state. It allowed me to escape from my responsibilities, first thing I thought in the morning and I seriously I thought I could not quit. I then watched a video of myself interacting with my 7 year old with my super bloody eyes and looked like a loser. That and my own mom&#x27;s &quot;I am scared that you would not be able to quit&quot; were two things that triggered me to stop right there. Weed made me resentful towards people and life, made me criticize everything around me. I am not going to waste my 40s like that.
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hn_throwaway_99将近 2 年前
One related thing I&#x27;d like to point out that I think the article gets wrong is that the 2018 Farm Bill, which aimed to legalize just hemp, for all intents and purposes made weed legal nationwide due to some clever workarounds by producers. I live in a state that very, very much still calls all use of marijuana illegal except for some very specific and tightly controlled medical uses (i.e. it&#x27;s not like &quot;hey doc, can you just write me a &#x27;script&quot; like other states), yet I can still walk into a very nice, clean, well-maintained store in a plain strip mall and:<p>1. Buy D9 gummies and other edibles that contain up to 50mg D9 THC. Basically, since the law defines hemp as containing &lt; .3% D9 THC, producers just extract all the D9 THC from hemp and inject it into edibles such that the total weight of the edible means there is still less than .3% D9 THC in the edible. These get me just as baked as &quot;normal&quot; weed gummies, they&#x27;re just a bit bigger.<p>2. More surprising to me is the recent addition of &quot;THCA Hemp Flower&quot;. To me these are just normal buds - I can grind them up and vape them and they get me just as high as &quot;normal&quot; weed. Basically these flowers contain low amounts of THC, but high amounts of THCA. But when you heat it, THCA turns into THC by decarboxylation. The thing that I don&#x27;t understand is that I thought &quot;normal&quot; marijuana always needed to be heated anyway, e.g. why they say you can&#x27;t just eat a weed bud but if you&#x27;re making an edible you need to heat the oils first.<p>The gummies&#x2F;edible workaround I can understand, but the THCA flower &quot;workaround&quot; seems like it&#x27;s skirting <i>really</i> close to the edge of the law. Not that I&#x27;m complaining or anything, but it&#x27;s weird to me how people don&#x27;t know that weed is legal nationwide in the US.
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zer8k将近 2 年前
Ever since it became legal I have friends who spend majority of their day high. Of course, when confronted, they say it&#x27;s not addictive and they dont have a problem. As we know this is the first sign of a very serious addiction.<p>It&#x27;s a comparison problem. It won&#x27;t kill you like alcohol withdrawals will or make you agitated like nicotine will. So then it must be okay right? These same potheads will quote studies and news articles talking about the benefits or just how risk free it is.<p>Its very similar to the way a functional alcoholic will justify their drinking. They even use avoidance language. 20 years ago we called it weed, now we call it &quot;cannabis&quot;. Oh, you&#x27;re not addicted to weed you&#x27;re just using cannabis every hour of every day. I think legalization didn&#x27;t help, nor hurt, but the re-branding of weed as &quot;cannabis&quot; while biologically correct gave these type of people a get out of jail free card. If you don&#x27;t believe me, say to yourself &quot;I smoke weed 8 times a day&quot; versus &quot;I use cannabis 8 times a day&quot;. One of them makes you sound like a degenerate, one of them makes you sound like you take a medication. That difference is very important in justifying addiction in the mind of an addict.
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Weryj将近 2 年前
I would classify myself as addicted to weed.<p>From my perspective and my best rationalisation of it, when I&#x27;m bored or stressed I reach for a dopamine hit and weed is a great source of one. The next day I&#x27;ll have a low and there&#x27;s a &#x27;battle&#x27; between the rational and want. The rational side almost never wins and I&#x27;ll be in a daily usage cycle for months.<p>That being said I think it&#x27;s an easier drug to break the cycle of with planning, since it only takes a few days of no use to dramatically improve my chances of resisting and honestly, if I didn&#x27;t suffer from poor memory performance, I&#x27;d be okay as a daily smoker. But working is next to impossible at the level needed as a SDE.
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smokeitaway将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been addicted to thc for much of my adult life. I know people who smoke much more than I ever did. I&#x27;d use every day, only after work, but I never didn&#x27;t use it after work. I was using it as a crutch, I used it as a cure-all, I used it as a social lubricant. As mentioned in the article, I used it for anxiety, and the anxiety got worse.<p>I tried to quit a bunch of times, some more successfully than others. But quitting is really hard. I&#x27;d successfully exhaust my supply, but there&#x27;s always bowl- and grinder-scrapings. After a night or two of smoking tar and dust, &quot;fuck it&quot;, I&#x27;d find some more.<p>My #1 excuse was always sleep. Weed is the best sleep aid I&#x27;ve ever found. Quitting usually went fine until I wanted to go to bed. Several hours into a sleepless night, desperation sets in.<p>Eventually, I found a hack in LSD when I first had the determination to use it without mixing THC. I slept like a baby. No cravings the next day, or the next. I started dreaming again, after years of sleeping like a corpse and waking up exhausted.<p>I&#x27;ve since started and stopped a few times. Picked it back up to be social (and, hey, it&#x27;s fun!), the habit-driving insomnia comes back with a vengeance. Stopping with LSD seems to work reliably for me. I only allow myself a hit of LSD per year, so that&#x27;s how often I excuse a social session. But the last couple of times, I haven&#x27;t needed the LSD. It seems that I finally kicked the compulsion. Although, I don&#x27;t trust that enough to make it a more regular habit.<p>Edit reply to jrflowers:<p>No, I do not take acid to sleep. Taking it once allows me to quit thc cold turkey. I take it first thing in the morning, so I&#x27;m hungry for dinner and sleepy for bedtime. Last thing I need is a new habit.<p>Edit reply to gvedem (an hour and a half later I&#x27;m still &quot;posting too fast&quot; to make a second comment):<p>I bought the acid from a friend. I am aware that &quot;one tab&quot; is not a standardized dose and that adjacent tabs on a sheet can have significant discrepancy. But &quot;one tab&quot; is what I took.
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wonderwonder将近 2 年前
I take edibles &#x2F; smoke a few times a week. Never during work hours. I think if I started consuming during work I would label myself an addict. I generally find I am a much better parent &#x2F; husband when on a low dose of thc. My patience for my kids is infinite. I spend time with them just teaching them chess or showing them how to do pushups, or just talking. When not high, my mind wants to do a lot of other things that are generally unimportant and future focused. THC grounds me in the now. My wife prefers it as I am pretty much agreeable to whatever she wants [I mean this in a good way, not in a &quot;I drug him so I get what I want way&quot;]. I am generally an argumentative person, and sweat the small stuff. Not when I am high. I never drive or do anything risky while high. I&#x27;m also not taking so high a dose that I am making bad decisions [besides the next sentence].<p>If I could just avoid being hungry while high it would be perfect but eating a cake after spending an hour and a half at the gym is pretty dumb.
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lucubratory将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t really like talking about it anymore, I am 6 years sober and still dealing with related issues every day, but yes I feel like I can&#x27;t talk openly about it. Skepticism is exactly how I would describe it. It&#x27;s not strictly stigma, like is the case for most people who talk about drug addiction. It&#x27;s most often a reaction of surprise, disbelief, and then resentment, like I&#x27;m a sleeper agent for reefer madness propaganda that they&#x27;ve just uncovered. Normally when you admit to a previous drug addiction that&#x27;s had lasting impacts on you, the &quot;bad result&quot; is &quot;Wow, I can&#x27;t believe you&#x27;re a druggie&quot;. With cannabis it&#x27;s more like &quot;Wow, I don&#x27;t believe that that happened actually, weed is safe girl, it cures cancer&quot;. It is what it is.
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hirvi74将近 2 年前
In my experiences, cannabis is about as addictive as coffee&#x2F;caffeine.<p>By that, I mean it&#x27;s unpleasant to quit after continuous usage due to various withdrawal side-effects but only for a relatively short period of time (3 or 4 days max).
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clarge1120将近 2 年前
The coolest part of this whole discussion is that we can finally compare weed and alcohol.<p>Before the current weed era, weed was always compared favorably, by smokers, to alcohol with the adage: Weed is illegal, yet I&#x27;ve never seen a bar fight after everyone gets high.<p>Now we can do a real comparison of the effects of weed smoking on the general public, the same way we&#x27;ve done with drinking.
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tyleo将近 2 年前
I was a heavy smoker through college living in a state where I could only buy through dealers. I was hanging out with one of my dealers once when they said, “if I drank as much as I smoked I’d be an alcoholic.” I realized I was an addict at that point but I didn’t think I had a problem. After all, I passed college with good grades and got a good job. I was generally happy and had few bad experiences on marijuana vastly outweighed by good ones.<p>Two things really bothered me though:<p>1. Any amount of smoking is bad for your lungs and I take my health seriously.<p>2. I don’t like the idea that a substance of any sort had power over me.<p>I made 2 changes after graduation to get things back under control:<p>1. I only do edibles except on special occasions like 04-20 or a holiday with friends. So few that I can count the number of times a year on one hand.<p>2. I only consume marijuana every other month.<p>I now consider myself a joyful consumer of the product because I prefer marijuana to alcohol on nights out with friends. I feel more in control and less tired the following day. Hitting the breaks every other month resets me. It proves to myself I’m still in control and keeps any cravings and tolerance down at a reasonable level.<p>I’m not sure if this will work for anyone else but thought I’d share.
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zw123456将近 2 年前
Everything can be addictive. My stepsister is addicted to buying things and never opening the item. Her husband enables this because they live out in the country and he had a sort of &quot;warehouse&quot; built for her with huge metal racks that hold hudreds of items she has purchased over the years that have never been opened or had the shrink wrap disturbed. It is of course a type of hoardism. She buys things but if she opens the package and uses the item it ruins it is sort of how she explains it. We know it is a disorder of some sort, she is addicted to buying things and hoarding them. What should we do about it?<p>Well, if her husband is OK with it, then what is it for us to judge? I am conflicted on this. But, I think, there is some sort of line where something is addicting and addicting and harmful. If this is not disrupting their lives, and they are happy, who am I to judge?<p>I don&#x27;t know. To me it is weird, but probably a lot of things I do seem weird to others. I journal daily. Is that an addiction? Probably, of some sort, I don&#x27;t know. How to navigate. The less harmful it is, the less we should meddle I suppose.
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unfocused将近 2 年前
Here is a document (PDF ~266 pages) about INFORMATION FOR HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS Cannabis (marihuana, marijuana) and the cannabinoids<p>Dried or fresh plant and oil administration by ingestion or other means Psychoactive agent<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.canada.ca&#x2F;content&#x2F;dam&#x2F;hc-sc&#x2F;documents&#x2F;services&#x2F;drugs-medication&#x2F;cannabis&#x2F;information-medical-practitioners&#x2F;information-health-care-professionals-cannabis-cannabinoids-eng.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.canada.ca&#x2F;content&#x2F;dam&#x2F;hc-sc&#x2F;documents&#x2F;services&#x2F;d...</a><p>I think what people need to be reminded of is that addiction will always exist. Whether it is collecting Pokémon, Video Games, Gambling, Drugs etc.<p>What cannabis brings is less damage, post use, than say, Oxycontin. This is one simple example.<p>Not a doctor, so don&#x27;t ask me for details!
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seadan83将近 2 年前
I am not sure where to start with on this article. There are a lot of extraneous and tired points being trotted out that really clouds the underlying point.<p>Essentially the point I took is some people could use serious help, and they get laughed at by society and the drug treatment programs they find because their problem is cannabis (and not say meth).<p>I don&#x27;t think this is a surprise or that profound. Drug treatment in the US has been generally &#x27;jail&#x27; (and still is for most drugs, and for cannabis as well in many regions). Actual drug treatment in the US is something of a joke for any substance, whether you are taken seriously or not. Drug treatment programs are expensive, often not covered by health insurance (if you have health insurance), often not effective - and that is the tip of the iceberg.<p>US medicine severely struggles for holistic treatments. Drug addiction treatment needs holistic treatment.<p>For example, detox centers will help a person come down and get over the most intense part of withdrawal. This is super important for alcohol as that withdrawal can kill you. But, this is symptomatic of how US medicine works - treats the chemical and biology, but not the person.<p>Read further on the updated rat-park experiment for why &#x27;treating the person&#x27; is so important: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.psychiatrictimes.com&#x2F;view&#x2F;what-does-rat-park-teach-us-about-addiction" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.psychiatrictimes.com&#x2F;view&#x2F;what-does-rat-park-tea...</a><p>A couple of other notable points I&#x27;d like to raise:<p>&gt; “You smell it in the air when you’re sitting at a stoplight,” Courtney said.<p>This made me laugh. Try to quit smoking tobacco... Try to give up alcohol. Both are _everywhere_<p>On a serious point, giving up any substance can be a real challenge, no matter what it is.<p>&gt; and the potency of the drug has been increased —<p>This is such a boogeyman. Total amount of drug ingested is quantity times potency. Old school people made up the low potency with quantity. What is more though, there always was high potency strains available (just not as prevalent today). Thai sticks, hash oils, they have been around for a long time. So, the high potency stuff has been around, that is not new, and most people compensate for the high potency by ingesting less.
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yodsanklai将近 2 年前
I have few friends who are seriously addicted. Their lives revolve entirely around cannabis. That being said, I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a particularly addictive substance. People get addicted to all sorts of things. For instance gambling, it&#x27;s hard to believe someone can be addicted to that, yet people are...
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foxyv将近 2 年前
As much as I think that Marijuana should be decriminalized completely. I also still think that it causes a ton of problems among those who smoke it. I&#x27;ve had friends change completely after starting to smoke habitually. I don&#x27;t think it would be a problem if our society weren&#x27;t so messed up right now. But, like alcohol, I think poverty and isolation just makes it so much worse.
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tetrep将近 2 年前
As other comments have noted, just like with other addictions, it is extremely helpful&#x2F;insightful to be able to see someone &quot;further along&quot; and say &quot;I don&#x27;t like what I see.&quot;<p>I interacted with and heard stories about family alcoholics when I was growing up and that is part of why I&#x27;m confident I won&#x27;t develop a bad relationship with it myself. It&#x27;s hard to forget what it does not just to the users, but to everyone around them.<p>Similarily, although I didn&#x27;t see it growing up, as an adult I have seen some pretty hardcore stoners (high all the time), and I do not like the lifestyle that most seem to fall into. It&#x27;s really easy to notice the cognitive decline when it happens to someone you know. Even if you want to be charitable, people at the very least behave quite differntly when they go from generally sober all the time to generaly stoned all the time. YMMV but I prefer generally sober people versus generally stoned people.<p>I think part of the strong correlation between stoners and legalization movements is because they&#x27;re (rightfully!) self-interested in improving their own lifestyle, so they&#x27;ll be the loudest and most experienced advocates. As much as I loathe the &quot;marijuana can do no harm&quot; attitude of some stoners, the <i>still</i> reactionary &quot;omg drugs bad!&quot; people are terrible. Making it illegal makes it so much worse for everyone involved, and you&#x27;re not going to stop people from being involved with marijuana. More or less the same reasons we need to legalize sex work. It&#x27;s here, it&#x27;s always been here, and we need to learn how to cope with this reality in a healthy and safe manner. &quot;Abstinence only&quot; doesn&#x27;t stop babies from being made any better than it stops people from using drugs. Education is the key (as it so often is).
xyzelement将近 2 年前
I used to be a big fan of pot and a proponent of legalization but now I am not sure.<p>The impact of things is at the margins - people whose lives were going to work out well, will probably still be OK even with pot. People who were gonna have big problems probably will have them anyway. But I think there are <i>some</i> people who will be pushed from the &quot;barely OK&quot; to &quot;not OK&quot; category.<p>The legalization (vs decriminalization) has had a clear impact on the use. You used to smell pot when walking in NYC <i>sometime</i>, now you smell it consistently everywhere. You are constantly in the presence of high people which did not used to be the case.<p>In my own life there were historically some benefits to discovery of pot, but I also recognize that areas where I wasn&#x27;t vigilant about it, had negative effects. For example times in my life when I had gotten fat correlate to when I smoked actively. I was vigilant for pot messing me up in obvious ways - eg I didn&#x27;t let it make me miss work or stop dating etc - but the weight subtly crept on me.
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psychphysic将近 2 年前
Forget Marijuana addiction, we have a cupcake addiction problem.<p>Society will drown under obese patients long before we need to worry about pot heads.
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block_dagger将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been using cannabis daily since I was 13 to treat my own OCD and other autism-like symptoms. I&#x27;ve taken months with no THC over my life and always come back to it. Helps me focus, socialize, and be happy. It, for me, has been a life saver.
max_lameme将近 2 年前
I smoked a lot of weed daily (~1gram&#x2F;day) for almost 10 years. Finally got sick of this life and decided to quit, once I run out of it. First day I was pissed and then I was cured. I always thought that I&#x27;m addicted and it will be almost impossible to stop, but turned out I wasn&#x27;t really addicted.
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AnEro将近 2 年前
Any escape from reality or avoidance of it is addictive. And weed is way to normalized for self-medicating, if you said &quot;im anxious im going to smoke&quot; people are way more okay with hearing that than if you said you where getting a beer.
chriscappuccio将近 2 年前
I found marijuana to be incredibly addictive in my 20s, despite the fact that I only liked 1&#x2F;3rd of its effects.<p>As I got older I found the undesirable 2&#x2F;3rd of effects to be overwhelming. This was especially obvious as I improved my health. I eat better and even workout more at 44 than I ever did at 22. Despite a plethora of legal marijuana options now, I have very little desire to use it (or any drugs, I really don&#x27;t want to interfere too much with my hormones or at all with my dopamine reward system.) If I hadn&#x27;t taken the path in life that I did, I might instead be desiring or dependent on drugs much stronger than marijuana at age 44.<p>I feel a sense of gratitude for the training that led me away from drugs and a sense of empathy for those who were not encouraged down the same path. I grew up on the Internet from 1991 (including the various archives of alt.drugs) with an intense curiosity for drugs, and also a sense of danger from the stronger ones (in particular opiates and stimulants.) This also left me with the idea that marijuana was both harmless and low-cost, addiction wise.<p>It took me quite a long time to understand the negative effects that it had on me. Chief was excessive eating. I could not work off the amount of food that I could eat while high. The negative effects on my body hormones from carrying this extra weight seemed to be reinforcing to the addiction. It&#x27;s a crazy ride.
xu_ituairo将近 2 年前
Does anyone have ideas or direction on undoing mental harm caused by smoking weed for a long time?<p>I started at 28 (so not very young) and smoked for maybe five years. I’ve stopped for a year now and while generally feel better, still feel slightly slow regarding memory and word recall. Lacking wit and often umming while looking for the right word or someone’s name.<p>I’ve seen research suggesting that word recall is one of the main long-lasting effects of cannabis that persists after cessation.
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rayiner将近 2 年前
My wife got a body scrub at a spa in Oregon recently. The more exfoliating of the two scrub options (I think salt versus volcanic ash) was based on CBD oil. The spa insisted that it was relaxing and folks got it all the time with no trouble. My wife was sick for the better part of three days, puking and nauseous. Apparently CBD poisoning is a thing, and the amount added to these things (especially in consideration of absorption vectors) is pretty much unregulated.
mahathu将近 2 年前
Interesting article that I didn&#x27;t expect to find on HN. thanks for sharing!<p>I would like to add that in my own experience (and that of others, it wasn&#x27;t mentioned in the article), synthetic cannabinoids, like the ones &quot;cannabis&quot; sold by the guys in the park down the road is laced with, is considerably more addictive than medicinal quality marijuana. Also, instead of a slow buildup, it usually hits a few seconds after taking a hit already and doesn&#x27;t last as long, plus the effects were really paranoia inducing for me, to the point where I had auditory hallucinations and was afraid I gave myself schizophrenia for the rest of my life. But it was so addicting that stopping even for a full day felt like an insurmountable feat. I was already quite depressed before, so the feeling wasn&#x27;t <i>that</i> much different, but at times I just couldn&#x27;t wait to get home, light up a joint and blast myself with podcasts (usually reports from other countries and other cultures, something as far away from home as possible), sports broadcasts or the 10th The Office re-watch. Basically retreating into a cocoon where I wouldn&#x27;t have to deal with the outside world. one time i woke up still wearing my shinguards from football (&quot;soccer&quot;) practice the day before.<p>I finally stopped when I had to go on a trip and be sober for 2 weeks. As long as I wasn&#x27;t at home, I didn&#x27;t even think about smoking much (which is crazy when days before quitting seemed so out of the question) and when I came back I didn&#x27;t have much trouble staying away, fortunately. Now I just take a few hits every couple weeks and actually get to enjoy being high for a change.
egberts1将近 2 年前
&quot;Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS) is a condition that leads to repeated and severe bouts of vomiting. It is rare and only occurs in daily long-term users of marijuana. &quot;<p>That is what Cedars-Sinai Research are saying.<p>And it is not rare as they say it is. Some ten people in my old Baltimore neighborhood came down with it.<p>And it has affecting someone I know ... daily for 3 years continuous.<p>Coupled with the how strong the marijuana addiction has been, it is egregious to see how these human beings would check themselves into ER almost weekly; a constructive feedback mechanism is sorely missing within their pre-frontal cortex part of their brain.<p>While hard to quit, a super long hot shower is often the soothing mechanism to recover from extreme abdominal muscular strains after having worshipped the pearly-white porcelain gods; yet, this relief remains but a platitude.<p>It was such a sad feeling to watch them cycle this addiction, over and over ... and over.<p>Rare? ha.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cedars-sinai.org&#x2F;health-library&#x2F;diseases-and-conditions&#x2F;c&#x2F;cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cedars-sinai.org&#x2F;health-library&#x2F;diseases-and-con...</a>
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imadethis将近 2 年前
If you know any ER docs&#x2F;nurses&#x2F;techs, ask them about cannabinoid hyperemesis and the denial that patients are in around their level of addiction.
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myshpa将近 2 年前
Psilocybin is able to instantly turn off an addiction, and it is not addictive itself.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;time.com&#x2F;6167638&#x2F;psilocybin-addiction-therapeutic-breakthrough&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;time.com&#x2F;6167638&#x2F;psilocybin-addiction-therapeutic-br...</a><p>Psilocybin Could be a Therapeutic Breakthrough For Addiction<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC9947277&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC9947277&#x2F;</a><p>All four clinical trials indicated a beneficial effect of psilocybin-assisted therapy on SUD symptoms<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;27441452&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;27441452&#x2F;</a><p>All 15 participants ... At 12-month follow-up, 10 participants (67%) were confirmed as smoking abstinent. At long-term follow-up, nine participants (60%) were confirmed as smoking abstinent.<p>At 12-month follow-up 13 participants (86.7%) rated their psilocybin experiences among the five most personally meaningful and spiritually significant experiences of their lives.
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thebigspacefuck将近 2 年前
In my experience, cannabis addiction is the definition of insidious. I used it daily in high school and college since the age of 15 or 16. The effects on my learning and memory were profound, but I never noticed how bad until I was off it for 1-2 months. I was flunking Calculus, got busted my parents, then my head cleared, I picked up the subject in a month without even studying and aced the AP Calc exam. Same thing happened in college studying engineering, I’d flunk the first exam, decide to quit, then learned the material easily. Most people aren’t trying to learn STEM so it’s probably impossible to tell how bad it’s impacting you. The withdrawals weren’t so bad, just feeling kind of spaced out and weird for one or two months, but it was just hard to quit because you don’t see the reason to. I haven’t smoked much since school, but my memory is so bad now 10 years later it’s sad.
bratgpttamer将近 2 年前
I think a big thing that&#x27;s overlooked is the difference between psychological and physiological dependency, as well as the stigma or popular idea of addiction. Weed doesn&#x27;t <i>feel</i> addictive in the classic sense, especially in comparison to things that are much more addictive, like nicotine and alcohol.<p>I used to live basically next door to a dispensary, and would smoke multiple times a day. If I didn&#x27;t smoke, I&#x27;d sometimes find it hard to get to sleep the first night or so, but it wasn&#x27;t as bad as going without a cigarette, missing adderall, or what I&#x27;ve seen people go through on opiates.<p>Given that many recreational users are into other stuff, too (especially before legal dispensaries that looked like Apple stores came along), along with the pro-cannabis propaganda, it&#x27;s easy to see how people don&#x27;t take it seriously.
INTPenis将近 2 年前
What helped me trivialize my cannabis addiction was finding an even worse addiction, sugar. Now that&#x27;s one I truly fear.<p>Cannabis can be comfortable, it helps me sleep through the entire night without waking up and it makes boring moments fun.<p>But sugar is insane. Sugar will make me go to the store for some made up reason 15 minutes before they close. Sugar will make me raid my pantry for anything I need to make a cake, and then eat the batter.<p>And I can&#x27;t even say cannabis was a gateway drug to sugar, because I was using my moms credit early to buy candy, or even stealing it from the store.<p>Now almost 40 years of age I&#x27;m starting to regret all that sugar in my life. And I still got off relatively easy compared to many others. Probably because I didn&#x27;t like soda as a kid.
nemo44x将近 2 年前
Anytime I hear about Marijuana addiction I think of this (vulgar) scene from the Dave Chappelle movie &quot;Half Baked&quot;:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=rwG3HWubpZI">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=rwG3HWubpZI</a><p>Definitely some skepticism there!
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sekaniz将近 2 年前
I&#x27;ve been smoking weed almost every day for about 10 years now. When people talk about weed addiction I have mixed feelings about it. I&#x27;ve only had good experiences and effects from weed, and it has sincerely helped me a lot, but I would say almost the majority of my friends have not. Most people I know smoke at parties, take way too much, or use it as an escape from an already troublesome life. A close friend is bipolar and has depression, and weed literally destroys his life.<p>Every now and then I get the question if I&#x27;m addicted. It&#x27;s a hard question to say no to when you pretty much are a daily smoker. Sometimes I feel like I can&#x27;t say no honestly, without stopping smoking entirely for the rest of my life. I have had periods where I haven&#x27;t smoked, for example when working abroad for several months up to a year, and it&#x27;s never been an issue. I&#x27;ve never felt an urge or a need to get high.<p>I obviously do see people struggle, and I genuinely feel for those that do, but is also hard to relate when you have never suffered yourself. Even though I smoke myself and it has done so much good for my anxiety, stress, etc, I don&#x27;t really recommend weed today, just mainly because I&#x27;ve seen so many people struggle with it. I do smoke in low dosages and never understood why people want to get super high, maybe that is a factor as well.
spoonjim将近 2 年前
There is one great solution to all of this and it’s to never have a substance at all. I’ve had a few things but now don’t drink, smoke, or consume drugs and life is great.
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johnea将近 2 年前
Just think of all the &quot;shoe buying addicts&quot; and their lack of support...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gq-magazine.co.uk&#x2F;fashion&#x2F;article&#x2F;fugly-shoes-addiction" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gq-magazine.co.uk&#x2F;fashion&#x2F;article&#x2F;fugly-shoes-ad...</a><p>People&#x27;s ability to form psychological depenndancies on just about anything is a well established phenomenon.
mjfan420将近 2 年前
(throwaway because ...reasons)<p>disclaimer: this is just my experience, your mileage might vary and I don&#x27;t want to seem insensitive to people having a hard time quitting, just share my experience.<p>I&#x27;ve smoked mj for about 20 years and in the past year I stoped once for four months, restarted, and now again, since April.<p>I still think about it sometimes but I don&#x27;t plan on resuming anytime soon. The hardest part for me is that I now dream at night and I really don&#x27;t enjoy it. Looking back, I had moments when I was a bit &quot;slow&quot; and a bit distracted. On the other hand, now I&#x27;m a bit too tensed and get easily irritated by stuff that previously didn&#x27;t bother me.<p>My 2 cents: you should try and quit, if you can. If you think you can&#x27;t, maybe try asking for help. If you don&#x27;t want to quit, don&#x27;t quit.<p>ps. I&#x27;m just a nobody, on the internet, use your best judgement :)
SCAQTony将近 2 年前
I spoke with a rehab specialist and he mentioned that since cannabis is oil based, there is no physical withdrawal symptoms as there are with other opioid products. This is due to taking weeks to get cannabis out of your system. Thus, it is often argued that it is not physically addictive but rather psychologically addictive.
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Daub将近 2 年前
When addiction is talked about, it is wise to seperate that which is habit forming from that which is psychologically addictive (such as heroin and meth). Too often they are confused with each other. The later gets it&#x27;s hooks into your chemical biology in a way that can be torture to disengage from. no wonder... the active ingredient of meth is hundreds of times stronger than the natural dopamine it emulates.<p>Regarding TFA, From what I can tell, it does not tell us if Courtney is using natural canabis or a synthetic such as spice. If the later, then a quick walk down the streets of central Glasgow will tell you that it is indeed very addictive, and has been as bad a blight to that area as meth has to Vancouver.
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parentheses将近 2 年前
Marijuana can be challenging to stop, but so can a lot of other things. Daily vitamins come to mind. I used to take a daily combination proposed by my psychiatrist. The days when I didn&#x27;t, I used to feel like a zombie, was moody and had horrible sleep.<p>The idea that changing a habitual chemical input that has effects on the brain should be painless is a bit unreasonable. I feel the headline is clickbaity but the core fact remains. Changing habits is hard. Especially when that change results in lost sleep or mood swings. That said, I&#x27;ve seen an opiate addict spend a month rapidly detoxing and weed is a piece of cake by comparison.
qwerty456127将近 2 年前
Marijuana addiction is a kind of addiction where &quot;just stop doing it&quot; is the solution. Physiological addition to marijuana only develops if you smoke waaaay to much every day and easily fades away with just minor headaches taking just a a day or two of withdrawal. The psychological side of addition is a result of unhappy lives of the people and should be addressed by a psychotherapist and&#x2F;or life coach.<p>I can only speak about actual marijuana though, I know nothing about THC vape pens.
alexk307将近 2 年前
People have been ingesting cannabis habitually since before western society even existed. Anything that makes you feel good can be habit forming, but not everything that’s habit forming is addicting. If a person drinks sodas everyday and struggles to quit are they an addict? Or just coping with boredom and under stimulation?<p>Cannabis is medicine just like every other recreational drug can be, the difference is in the dose and who’s making money off of it.
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mmaunder将近 2 年前
The negative cognitive effects of weed in its various forms are short term but very real. So continuous use deprives the user of living a much fuller life and reaping all the benefits that go with better overall brain function: financial, social, career, creative and so on. So while the addictive nature of marijuana may be debatable, continuous long term, or lifetime use, whatever the cause, has awful consequences for the user.
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DiggyJohnson将近 2 年前
MJ was quite literally ruining my life. Quitting was the best thing I ever did.<p>I was burnt out of my job and used marijuana to cope. New job and scenery were key to this quit.
darepublic将近 2 年前
I have struggled with weed addiction more than once in my life. Picking up coding helped me out of the first bout. Switching to edibles and tapering the dosage helped me out of the second. If I had to take a trip somewhere where I couldn&#x27;t hav any it was pretty easy to live without it, but I did not have the mental discipline to stop when it was available
say_it_as_it_is将近 2 年前
There&#x27;s a scene in the classic stoner movie with young Dave Chapelle speaking about weed addiction at an addicts meeting where Bob Saget&#x27;s character stands, outraged, belittling him about it because he sucked d*ck for coke. It&#x27;s a salient point about the addiction. Addiction can be far worse, relatively speaking.
jowdones将近 2 年前
Some people will get addicted to anything, does this mean we should forbid it to everyone? I can&#x27;t stop jer*ing off for instance, God knows I tried, but after a few days or weeks at most I succumb to temptation. Should society outlaw pe*ises just to make sure noone gets addicted to rubbing them compulsively?
jredwards将近 2 年前
If anyone is struggling, the reddit forum the article references is r&#x2F;leaves (a clever play on the marijuana subreddit, r&#x2F;trees). It&#x27;s the marijuana equivalent of r&#x2F;stopdrinking. Both are wonderful, supportive communities that have helped many people.
cratermoon将近 2 年前
Addiction is a brain disease, and it matters: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;9311924&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;9311924&#x2F;</a><p>&quot;effective treatment approaches will include biological, behavioral, and social-context components.&quot;
bennyschmidt将近 2 年前
Cannabis &quot;addiction&quot; is as problematic as caffeine &quot;addiction&quot;. I put those in quotes because neither are what typically comes to mind when a person thinks about drug addiction.<p>If you think quitting weed is hard, try quitting coffee if you have it every day. For me, suddenly quitting coffee results in severe migraine headaches and I can&#x27;t do my job well. Extreme irritability and fatigue, it&#x27;s truly a stimulant drug withdrawal. It takes about a week or so to get through it, and having green tea in its place is the only way I can reasonably taper down.<p>A similar kind of thing happens if you suddenly stop smoking weed when you use it daily - cold sweats, irritability, but it only lasts about a day. Anyone who has struggled with caffeine, alcohol, or amphetamine addiction (yes, including ADHD pills), who has gone through a cannabis withdrawal will be pleasantly surprised for lack of a better description at how short-lived it is. I believe that&#x27;s why so many stoners exclaim &quot;I can quit at any time if I wanted&quot;, it&#x27;s not that big of a deal.<p>I really believe the negative effects of over-consuming caffeine (irritability, cold sweats, heart racing nervousness), and also the effect of withdrawing from caffeine, are both more severe than either with cannabis. Because caffeine is an accepted daily-use stimulant in our society, I compare it to that.
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Rhapso将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s very simple: anything that makes you stop hurting, one way or another, ends up being addictive.
ransom1538将近 2 年前
Weed is not addictive. If you think it&#x27;s addictive I beg you to watch a fentanyl withdrawal. Watch someone sell their mothers ring for a hit of heroin. Weed, um, its a joke. Get over the headache, get over the &quot;crave&quot; and just go play video games.
1letterunixname将近 2 年前
I would guess it&#x27;s less than 5% of users in the US.<p>There are weed addicts. My college dorm had about half a dozen students jonesing when all the dealers (5-6 in our area) went home for the winter holidays. Did anyone lose their job, get in a wreck, end up in the hospital, or die from it? I seriously doubt it.<p>I&#x27;d say alcoholism and binge drinking are far bigger threats. You know, like my roommate who nearly died from alcohol poisoning on his 21st birthday from downing half a dozen shots of everclear and more.<p>The magnitude of harm, impairment, and life dysfunction for substance abuse varies by said substance. Weed addiction isn&#x27;t nothing but it&#x27;s not tobacco, drinking, or meth.<p>I&#x27;d said the biggest harm of weed is people who smoke it unfiltered and inhale microfines and ultrafines more so than filtered tobacco cigarettes. Dabbing could be potentially better, but so much of the market is grey and black that there&#x27;s not enough research or uniform safety standards on producing healthy inhalation products.
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stillbourne将近 2 年前
I learned there is a thing called DIP, or Drug Induced Psychosis. I stopped smoking because of DIP. All my friends seemed evaporate in weeks like a puff of smoke. Quitting pot was probably one of the most depressing times of my life.
amrx101将近 2 年前
Oh boy. And most people dont even recognise porn as addiction and laugh at your face
fredgrott将近 2 年前
What you may not be aware of unless you are nootropic stacking<p>The products with Anandamide that enables feedback by binding with CBD receptors are: -dark cacao chocolate, the unsweetened kind -Maca<p>In short words it provokes a runner high...
pengstrom将近 2 年前
I struggle with cannabis addiction on and off. When I&#x27;m into it, it means several joints daily for months until I manage to pull my self out of. One day I fear I won&#x27;t be able to.
pyuser583将近 2 年前
People confuse legality with “a good idea.”<p>I was surprised how in California you can advertise marijuana. That’s unacceptable.<p>I’m not saying lock people up. But treat it like alcohol or tobacco or something.
Dowwie将近 2 年前
A lot of people are taking cannabis to help sleep. I&#x27;ve found magnesium glycinate very helpful for sleep. Also, no afternoon caffeine and hydration.
Eumenes将近 2 年前
Living in a legal state, I&#x27;m most annoyed by the number of pot shops everywhere. Its: gas stations, banks, fast food, weed shops. A boring utopia.
sourcecodeplz将近 2 年前
The &quot;good&quot; thing about cannabis addiction is that the cravings don&#x27;t last more than a couple of days AND are only psychological.
haswell将近 2 年前
One major issue has been over-emphasis on the fact that it’s not <i>physically</i> addictive in the ways that some drugs are. I think this leads to the mistaken belief that it’s not habit forming, and that there are no side effects of stopping after extended use.<p>While it’s not “withdrawal” in the traditional sense, it can be quite unpleasant. And the thing that sounds most helpful in that moment is…smoking a bowl.<p>What comes next is a lot of emotion management. Doable. Hard. Help is good.<p>I think legalization was good. Cannabis has mostly been a good thing in my life. At times, it hasn’t been. I worry about the crazy high THC strains everywhere now, and the misperception that these are completely harmless plants.<p>I still partake and find it worthwhile for creative endeavors, but had to make drastic changes to my usage habits with a promise to quit permanently if I found myself back in a similar cycle.<p>Enjoy responsibly.
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root899将近 2 年前
Its dangerous, only its a natural plant does not make it harmless. I got a problem with it myself, but i am glad i am away from booze.
kerkeslager将近 2 年前
This isn&#x27;t complicated: marijuana is addictive to some people, but making it illegal doesn&#x27;t solve that problem--it should be legal. But it&#x27;s apparent that&#x27;s too much nuance for the average politician.<p>I&#x27;ll add that I&#x27;ve also experienced this with caffeine: I&#x27;ve got more than one health reason to quit (heart arrhythmia, anxiety, insomnia), but I had a hell of a time quitting, with multiple failed attempts (now a few months out and hoping it sticks this time). And when I talk about it to the people around me, I get shocked and even defensive reactions. But my life is so much better when I&#x27;m not drinking coffee. Which is not to say that&#x27;s the best decision for everyone.
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jasonmarks_将近 2 年前
Cannabis is great. Try it after a difficult commit&#x2F;project to take some of the mental inflammation off.
jasonmarks_将近 2 年前
Cannabis is great. Try it after a difficult commit&#x2F;project to take a bit of mental inflammation off
pictureofabear将近 2 年前
Worst thing about legal marijuana is the smell every. That stuff reeks.
kolanos将近 2 年前
Anyone here experimented with kratom? What was your experience?
mock-possum将近 2 年前
Which is odd, because - I feel like we all have that friend.
itomato将近 2 年前
If she could pop a legal supplement would there be a problem?
arp242将近 2 年前
The current &quot;Cannabis industry&quot; is not that different from a &quot;Tobacco industry 2.0&quot; by being in denial of negatives, going on &quot;but alcohol is worse!&quot; whataboutisms, and generally denying responsibility from the negative effects.<p>That doesn&#x27;t mean it should be made illegal, but I strongly dislike the current state of the industry and regulation; it&#x27;s like we learned nothing from tobacco or alcohol.<p>All of the above applies to psychedelics even more, especially to those who tout the therapeutic effects while denying there are risks (the therapeutic effects are real, so are the risks).
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hn8305823将近 2 年前
Get addicted to cannabis: You might spend more $$$ per month than you would like to<p>Get addicted to alcohol: Die a very painful death over a two-month period as multiple organs shut down.<p>Get addicted to tobacco: Die a very painful death over many years as you develop cancer and try to fight it.<p>Get addicted to cocaine: You will <i>definitely</i> spend more $$$ per month than you would like and will probably die of a heart attack by the time you are 50
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mistrial9将近 2 年前
hilarious to see two hundred years of alcohol and tobacco medical cases, make big noises about an herb from the ground. They really have no clue?<p>being &quot;friendly and creative&quot; does not make good armies. It really does come down to that, doesnt it?<p>Obviously all kinds of people abuse substances daily. I saw a grown man sniff solvent glue from a bag once! How stupid is that? No one is suggesting that substance abuse is benign. The difference here is that this is a Political Newspaper pointing to &quot;peril.&quot; The article is not the entire story, it is a partial story designed to create reactions along a story-line.<p>get more exercise and relate to people.. not a headliner
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mudcrab将近 2 年前
Calling taking a medicine an addiction is strange, sounds like they do not factor in it being a medicine.<p>For example, those with autism or schizophrenia have a faulty &#x27;fatty acid binding protein 5&#x27; (fabp5)[1] which moves endocannabinoids to where they are needed[2]. Flooding the bloodstream with cannabis seems to help[3] by unlocking receptors that would normally be unlocked by endocannabinoids delivered by fabp5.<p>Obviously this is just one of many health benefits, such as muscle recovery[4] (who would even want that??? bloody addicts i tell ya!)<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC4240203" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC4240203</a><p>2. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buffalo.edu&#x2F;news&#x2F;releases&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;013.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buffalo.edu&#x2F;news&#x2F;releases&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;013.html</a><p>3. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.abc.net.au&#x2F;melbourne&#x2F;programs&#x2F;mornings&#x2F;medicinal-cannabis-study-children-with-asd&#x2F;101669836" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.abc.net.au&#x2F;melbourne&#x2F;programs&#x2F;mornings&#x2F;medicinal...</a><p>4. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC8369499" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC8369499</a>
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