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Melatonin as a treatment for food waste

152 点作者 WallyFunk将近 2 年前

20 条评论

insanitybit将近 2 年前
Not loading for me.<p>web archive link here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230804183727&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anthropocenemagazine.org&#x2F;2023&#x2F;08&#x2F;melatonin-a-sleep-aid-is-a-surprising-treatment-for-food-waste&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230804183727&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anthr...</a>
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maltyr将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m not sure we should cover our food in melatonin. People would recoil at the thought of pretty much any other hormone being added to our food supply.<p>It&#x27;s strange to me how Melatonin is so uncontrolled in usage, dosage, etc., despite being a hormone.<p>The article suggests it&#x27;s safer than current food additives, but I find that statement questionable. We don&#x27;t understand the full effect of Melatonin on the human body, so I don&#x27;t know how you can make that conclusion.
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vvpan将近 2 年前
Melatonin is very interesting because it is believed that all living things (bacteria, fungi, etc) have it [1]. Calling it a &quot;sleep aid&quot; is somewhat off because in humans and other animals it is compound heavily involved in modulating circadian rhythms. It is not a &quot;drug&quot;.<p>And a little personal anecdote about it: I have gone through a period of bad sleep and depression and was taking melotonin to help with sleep. On some mornings I would wake up completely emotionally destroyed, barely able to function. After observing the patterns for a few months I notice that this happened only on days after melotonin intake. Looking around the internet I&#x27;ve found stories of people describing exactly the same symptoms as I&#x27;ve had mornings after melotonin ingestion. Long story short I am likely not taking melotonin ever again and regret ever doing so. Sometimes I even wonder whether it generally exacerbated or even caused my condition at the time. I think research on this is scant atm.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC6481276&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC6481276&#x2F;</a>
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DoreenMichele将近 2 年前
Terrible title.<p><i>...melatonin could also be a vital tool to help fresh produce survive its own journey from farm to fork, reducing the monumental amount of food loss that occurs each year.</i><p>I interpreted the title to mean it would be applied to food after it was deemed &quot;waste&quot; as a form of &quot;waste treatment&quot; of some kind.<p>I am not thrilled by the proposal. Melatonin impacts the immune system in ways not yet understood. This could be kind of like adding more antibiotics to the food chain.
Mountain_Skies将近 2 年前
Didn&#x27;t see anything in the article about how much melatonin a person would get from eating food treated this way. I sometimes take small doses of melatonin during the summer months when my sleep pattern tends to drift if I don&#x27;t actively keep it under control but wonder if consuming it through diet would end up making lots of people groggy during the day.
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clumsysmurf将近 2 年前
If you have IBD &#x2F; Chrohn&#x27;s be careful with melatonin <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.medicalnewstoday.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;melatonin-used-to-promote-sleep-may-worsen-inflammatory-bowel-disease-symptoms" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.medicalnewstoday.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;melatonin-used-to-...</a>
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kbutler将近 2 年前
On a youth camping trip, one morning a boy found his (contraband) snacks had been raided. A raccoon (probably) had chewed through the tent, into his backpack, eaten various snacks, and opened his bottle of melatonin and eaten quite a few pills.<p>I wonder what the effects were of a massive overdose of melatonin on an animal the size of a raccoon...
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jimbobimbo将近 2 年前
Upper dose for melatonin has not been established, generally considered safe. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ajac.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;melatonin" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ajac.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;melatonin</a> for references.<p>I&#x27;m on 40mg every night, gives me deep restful sleep.
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droopyEyelids将近 2 年前
Most people know melatonin as extracellular melatonin, released by the pineal gland, which acts as a hormone to promote sleep.<p>Melatonin is also a powerful intracellular antioxidant that protects cells against oxidative stressors made in mitochondria as byproducts of ATP production. Aside from the pineal gland melatonin, melatonin is produced directly in mitochondria by cytochrome c oxidase upon exposure to near infrared.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;2Zzo4SJopcY?t=404" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;2Zzo4SJopcY?t=404</a><p>That seems more relevant to this discussion.
ciconia将近 2 年前
Some low-tech (and IMO better) solutions for food waste:<p>* Buy food locally, support your local farmers.<p>* Grow your own vegetables (some are really easy: potatos, onions, garlic, zucchini, corn, beans, etc.). Even tomatos, peppers and eggplants are not that hard.<p>* Compost your food waste - put it back in your garden.<p>* Learn how to preserve food when there&#x27;s an abundance.<p>* Also, learn to eat better.<p>I think it&#x27;s a real shame that so much food waste ends up in landfill instead of being composted locally. If you compost your leftovers, you turn your waste into a resource, and use that to fertilize your garden.
hnfong将近 2 年前
Pretty funny wording:<p>&gt; fruit fared better with melatonin treatment than did vegetables, which remained more susceptible to the cold (though, chilling injury was still reduced in some vegetables such as bell peppers and cucumbers by up to 24%.)<p>I wonder whether this actually only works on biological fruits (bell peppers and cucumbers are fruits biologically).
pfisherman将近 2 年前
I don’t think sprinkling all the produce with a pharmacologically active molecule is a good idea. Side effects can and will be a big problem.
denverllc将近 2 年前
Speaking of fruit preservation: has anyone bought prepacked&#x2F;sliced fruit from the grocery store &#x2F; Costco that has an &quot;off&quot; flavor to it? Almost like they added some preservative. (The different fruit had the same flavor, which makes me think something was added). I have, and nothing was on the ingredients, so I am wondering what could have been added.
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r00fus将近 2 年前
Just reading through this - if I were a producer or distributor of food I&#x27;d suddenly be thinking about not only preventing food waste, but simply extending food storage times.<p>This could mean a lot more profit for large food corporations.
Havoc将近 2 年前
Take care with the stuff. Thought it&#x27;s safer than other sleeping tablets (and it is), but when they say don&#x27;t use long term it&#x27;s for a reason.<p>Ended up with strange continuous low key chest pains. Was fine, just had to stop
tracker1将近 2 年前
This just sounds like a bad idea. Not least of which, is that we have enough food to feed the world, and food waste has a usefulness and that is in creating new live soil.
raun1将近 2 年前
Melatonin disrupts circadian hormonal cycles. One of the key ways being delay of morning secretion of cortisol and other hormones.<p>It really should not be ingested except on rare occasions.
seri4l将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve ever bitten into a pear or plum with &quot;unappetizingly soft or gristly bits&quot;.
lcnmrn将近 2 年前
...and IgY for animal products.
VoodooJuJu将近 2 年前
You will take the drugs. And you will be happy.