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Rhino Linux is a rolling release Ubuntu-based distribution

73 点作者 sacrosanct将近 2 年前

13 条评论

umvi将近 2 年前
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is also a great rolling release distro. For anyone that&#x27;s never tried rolling release, the main benefit is that it keeps your tools&#x2F;libs&#x2F;kernel updated with the latest upstream.<p>If you use Ubuntu (for example) it ships with some python version (say 3.8), and then it will almost never update again unless you manually install a newer python version or update Ubuntu itself to the next release (which might not exist). With something like Tumbleweed (or Rhino in this case), updates come out every few days, and every time you do an update you&#x27;ll find python is now on 3.10, then 3.11, etc.<p>It&#x27;s really nice when every compiler&#x2F;language is on the latest version by default.
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bee_rider将近 2 年前
How does one make a point-release distro into a rolling one? A distro is a repo and configuration (and, of course, the community that grows around it, but that’s sort of ephemeral). So, if they are doing rolling release, they must not be using Ubuntu’s repos… what do they use?<p>Anyway, this is not to poo-poo a new rolling release distro; the more the merrier. I think people are waking up to the fact that rolling, with fewer moving parts per update, is the best way to get stability. Debugging effort grows like O(2^n) where n is the number of packages updated.
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award_将近 2 年前
Seems like a good project, but I&#x27;m not sure why I would choose this over something like Debian Sid though?
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djha-skin将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m very excited for this, but I find it odd that an OS that focuses on the bleeding edge uses a non-wayland desktop framework as its default. The most anticipated software I&#x27;m waiting to have drop in 24.04 is kde+wayland.
ramesh31将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m so happy that XFCE is still a thing. I remember using Xubuntu as my daily driver through the nightmare years of Windows 8 Metro and it was a dream come true.
fulafel将近 2 年前
Ubuntu is already a derivative distribution tracking Debian, and there seem to be obvious disadvantages to having the extra level of indirection, is there reasoning written up somewhere about why they don&#x27;t base on Debian?
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creeble将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t get what&#x27;s &quot;Ubuntu-based&quot; about Rhino?<p>It uses XFCE, and Pacstall for package management, which to me makes it utterly unlike Ubuntu.
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bravetraveler将近 2 年前
That&#x27;s... interesting. I avoid Ubuntu largely due to the age of things -- I&#x27;m someone who prefers Fedora&#x2F;Arch, closer to the &#x27;edge&#x27;.<p>Apt is another part of it, but honestly Debian seems to &#x27;feel&#x27; better. Perhaps due to the packaging?<p>Anyway, I&#x27;ll probably try this out. Say I wanted to take Canonical out, does anyone here have anything to say for Debian Unstable?
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cryptonector将近 2 年前
I really liked the ZFS approach to rolling updates that we had in the Sun Storage Appliance: updates are `zfs send`s, and applying an update is `zfs recv`ing an update, then you reboot into the new snapshot.<p>That requires:<p><pre><code> - making &#x2F; read-only (so there&#x27;s nothing to save from &#x2F; on upgrade) - having all configuration state move out of &#x2F; - having all upgrade actions relating to config files and so on be applied to a clone of the dataset that has that content </code></pre> This way backing out an upgrade is trivial, and you can be very confident in the ability to back out.<p>This approach happens to be a very good idea for other things as well. Such as if you wanted to seal TPM keys to PCR values that bind all of &#x2F;, well, you&#x27;d need a secure hash of all of &#x2F; for that, and a Merkle hash tree filesystem (but not quite ZFS) can give you that.
suslik将近 2 年前
I wonder - why isn&#x27;t Arch the one distro to rule them all - especially if we talk about rolling release? I was distro hoping since 2008 - Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Centos, Fedora, Mint, Slack - you name it. When I found Arch, after a couple of months I knew it was over. It really &quot;just works&quot; in the best sence.
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brucethemoose2将近 2 年前
Every linux distribution, IMO, has a sweet spot niche.<p>You run Arch if you want that critical mass of bleeding edge community support&#x2F;maintenance. Fedora for a pre release RHEL. Clear Linux for absolute x86 performance. Immutable distros like Kionite or SteamOS for focused tasks and stability. Gentoo for embedded stuff or weird patches. Mint for an old (but stable) base.<p>And you run Ubuntu because it is default linux. Its what you <i>have</i> to deal with on your cloud instance or work server or whatever. It is possibly the only thing some specific software you want is packaged&#x2F;tested on.<p>So Rhino linux is... Ubuntu, but rolling? If it actually works with Ubuntu targeted packages, thats pretty cool, as it would take tons pain out of Ubuntu.
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IronWolve将近 2 年前
Point releases for android and linux is really a pita. Even windows is a rolling release, win11 keeps getting updates without a reinstall.
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elromulous将近 2 年前
This! I&#x27;ve needed a rolling Ubuntu for so many things. Ubuntu is basically the &quot;default&quot; distro in many places, and pushing out upgrades via a new image or some big bang upgrade was a lot more painful than having a rolling updates.