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Today I learned that random people can send you money on PayPal and disputed it

54 点作者 mikenikles超过 1 年前

12 条评论

danShumway超过 1 年前
I know that FedNow isn&#x27;t really a digital currency system and I&#x27;m not making any assumptions about how it&#x27;s going to play out, but I hope one consequence of it is that sites like Paypal start seeing a lot more competition and lose a lot of power.<p>I know other countries have similar systems, but the US being a holdout and having terrible money transfer options despite being a massive market in the tech space maybe (hopefully?) is the reason that hasn&#x27;t already happened?<p>I don&#x27;t feel like I know enough to make any predictions, I&#x27;m just hopeful.
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falsandtru超过 1 年前
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Dah00n超过 1 年前
For the life of me I cannot understand anyone would use PayPal. I&#x27;d rather trust the postal system with an envelope of money. I have yet to see an area where there aren&#x27;t better options.
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smcl超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t get the angle of the &quot;random people&quot; here - is it just to cause a nuisance by causing target accounts to incur fees? I mean it&#x27;s stupid but a lot of PayPal stuff is stupid.<p>&gt; To a point, I am suspecting Paypal pretends to be the random online stranger that sent me the money and then disputed it<p>I would highly doubt this.
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NorwegianDude超过 1 年前
PayPal is the pinnacle of stupidity. I&#x27;ve sold the same digital product many thousand times, and this has happened multiple times:<p>Some customers decides to try to get it for free by paying and then creating a PayPal claim by lying that someone else made the purchases or that it was not delivered. And this usually works, and people tell others, so more people abuse it.<p>Basically every single time someone tries to commit &quot;friendly fraud&quot; as the card networks calls and it(customer tries to scam seller by lying), there are a handful of transactions from one person. PayPal usually rules 90 % of the cases in favor of the buyer.<p>However, there can be 20 purchases during just a couple of hours from one person and card, and somehow PayPal is certain that purchase 6 and 10 was legit, while the rest was someone who used the card without permission. That seems probable, right? Even on a account with a flawless record for over 10 years I&#x27;ve had this happen so many times. Usually when this happens I have to spend hours on this and contact PayPal by phone to get the money back. Usually the customer gets the money too, for some absurd reason.<p>PayPal&#x27;s fraud system is absolutely garbage, and so is the standard email support. Contacting account managers at least gives you what seems to be a human response.<p>I too got my PayPal account limited in 2012 as a result of a scammer who abused PayPal disputes.<p>The solution is super simple: make buyers pay to create PayPal claims and use the money to have real people quickly look over the cases. This is similar to how cases are handled for card networks.<p>Was the claim legit? Money back, including the claim fee. The merchant has to pay a fee, same way as today.<p>Was the claim not legit? Basically free money for PayPal, and some should probably be shared with the merchant for helping out with solving the fake claim.<p>At least in europe the scams on PayPal has mostly shifted from &quot;unauthorized use&quot; to &quot;not delivered&quot; as a result of strong consumer authentication.
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astrange超过 1 年前
Despite being the only person who&#x27;s ever owned my email address, someone else somehow has it added to their PayPal account.<p>Last I checked, Google&#x27;s survey app inexplicably pays out to PayPal even though they have Google Wallet, and doubly inexplicably will only pay to what it thinks your email address is with no option to change it. So… someone in Brazil has my survey payments.
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joker_minmax超过 1 年前
Can&#x27;t you reject funds the same way you&#x27;re allowed to reject a request for funds? Is there something I&#x27;m missing?
paypal_woes超过 1 年前
Ha, I was just wondering about this, or rather, whether there was any way to disable receiving funds. Not that I could find, anyway.<p>I also coincidentally am having a spat with Paypal at the moment, hence my new username.
okeuro49超过 1 年前
The title should be and &quot;dispute&quot; it
eimrine超过 1 年前
The concept of trusted third party becomes more and more annoying.
jdthedisciple超过 1 年前
Look how quickly the PayPal Support AI got there to respond.
gopher167超过 1 年前
UPI allows sending money using phone number only in India. It is at much bigger scale than Paypal. Over last 6 six years not even once sent me free money.