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Ask HN: Are MVNOs Really Invulnerable to SIM Swapping?

2 点作者 b8超过 1 年前
Google Fi, and Mint Mobile are two MVNOs that claim to prevent again sim swapping [0][1]. Mint Mobile offers TOTP, and Google Fi is linked to your Google account, so you can add U2F&#x2F;TOTP MFA.<p>However, would it still be possible for a T-Mobile retail employee to hijack a Google Fi, or Mint Mobile number? Both MVNOs use T-Mobile for their backend, but Google Fi uses US Cellular as well. There have been documented cases of retail T-Mobile employees conducting sim swaps. There has also been documented cases of Mint Mobile users getting sim swapped [2][3][4][5][6]. So, are MVNOs really not vulnerable to sim swapping? If so, is VOIP services like Google Voice the only secure alternative [7].<p>0. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;fi&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9834243<p>1. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mintmobile&#x2F;comments&#x2F;jw21qf&#x2F;how_does_mint_prevent_sim_swapping&#x2F;<p>2. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mintmobile&#x2F;comments&#x2F;113dyvi&#x2F;sim_swap_a_few_days_ago_day_3_of_still_not_having&#x2F;<p>3. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mintmobile&#x2F;comments&#x2F;t4g4g3&#x2F;i_just_got_sim_swapped_and_im_terrified_this_was&#x2F;<p>4. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mintmobile&#x2F;comments&#x2F;nw4gth&#x2F;just_got_sim_swap_hacked&#x2F;<p>5. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;mintmobile&#x2F;comments&#x2F;jw21qf&#x2F;how_does_mint_prevent_sim_swapping&#x2F;<p>6. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;GoogleFi&#x2F;comments&#x2F;10qes3h&#x2F;at_least_one_google_fi_customer_had_accounts&#x2F;<p>7. https:&#x2F;&#x2F;krebsonsecurity.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;11&#x2F;busting-sim-swappers-and-sim-swap-myths&#x2F;

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pwg超过 1 年前
&gt; Invulnerable to SIM Swapping?<p>As long as humans are allowed to &quot;override&quot; settings in the systems, none would be &quot;invulnerable&quot;. More difficult, maybe, but not &quot;invulnerable&quot;.<p>If a t-mobile employee with the right access to t-mobiles database can reassign a t-mobile number (even if that number is used by a MVNO) then there is always a risk that an employee can be bribed or be in on the heist.