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Why your blog still needs RSS

249 点作者 _xivi将近 2 年前

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Hackbraten将近 2 年前
Every time I want to track some news source (or software release list) and that source offers no RSS&#x2F;Atom feed, I add that missing feed myself.<p>For example, I wrote a feed generator that targets a specific software package release page. It scrapes the page and converts it to an Atom feed [1]. I then wrote a matching systemd service, which triggers the scraper once a day [2] and writes it to a file, no hosting required. My RSS reader is pointed to that file.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;claui&#x2F;release-feed-mediola&#x2F;blob&#x2F;fca39e897b5a664d589ed3b45b28500a3bd9a4ee&#x2F;release_feed_mediola&#x2F;api.py#L87-L104">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;claui&#x2F;release-feed-mediola&#x2F;blob&#x2F;fca39e897...</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;claui&#x2F;release-feed-mediola&#x2F;blob&#x2F;fca39e897b5a664d589ed3b45b28500a3bd9a4ee&#x2F;contrib&#x2F;systemd&#x2F;release-feed-mediola%40.service">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;claui&#x2F;release-feed-mediola&#x2F;blob&#x2F;fca39e897...</a>
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throwaway154将近 2 年前
A blog post, saying blogs still need RSS, without a human discoverable RSS feed.<p>I&#x27;d post a comment pointing this out, but a &#x27;Discuss&#x27; link to a 3rd party site, not part of the blog, remark.as tells me I need to login to write.as<p>At this point I conclude the writer&#x27;s failing to drink their own coffee let alone eat any dog food.
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verisimi将近 2 年前
When it comes to the importance of RSS to me, it is moral, almost spiritual. That might sound like I&#x27;m overstating it, but hear me out.<p>There is lots of interesting content out there. For an individual to develop themselves, they need free reign to information. RSS allows and enables an individual&#x27;s learning about reality (on the web).<p>The reverse is mediated information. Corporations&#x2F;governments would rather steer you to where they want you to go - to the sandboxed areas, the paddling pools of the internet. Many people think the internet is just youtube, facebook, instagram and twitter. These are social mediating platforms.<p>RSS is probably the most anarchic technological development of the internet we have had. More important than crypto or mobile phones. Continued unmediated access to the information you are interested in, without being distracted is what every individual should be striving for.<p>No wonder Google bent over backwards to try to kill it.
damnesian将近 2 年前
&gt;RSS feeds make web scraping and content stealing easier. This is a legitimate concern.<p>This is a negative way of looking at the reality- rarely mentioned in articles about RSS: RSS may be &quot;dead-&quot; however, there are many mobile apps that are fed by RSS feeds. Having one may risk some loss of revenue- but you&#x27;ll lose even more by simply being omitted from these aggregator apps, all of which (i mean, ok.. probably all) link back to the source website. That&#x27;s a huge potential for added exposure and revenue.
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KronisLV将近 2 年前
Being able to aggregate feeds in a consistent format is pretty nice. That&#x27;s more or less what let me create the Hacker News Personal Blogs site: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn-blogs.kronis.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn-blogs.kronis.dev&#x2F;</a><p>It&#x27;s thanks to the original HN thread where people linked their blogs and then someone crawling them for RSS feeds to make an OPML summary, I just get the posts daily now (after getting the list of feeds from GitHub).<p>I actually wrote about some of the challenges of doing that on my own blog, in the &quot;Ever wanted to read thousands of tech blogs? Now you can!&quot; post: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kronis.dev&#x2F;articles&#x2F;ever-wanted-to-read-thousands-of-tech-blogs-now-you-can" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kronis.dev&#x2F;articles&#x2F;ever-wanted-to-read-thousan...</a>
simonw将近 2 年前
I built a custom blog using Django the other day, and made some detailed notes on how I did it since it&#x27;s been a while since the last time.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;til.simonwillison.net&#x2F;django&#x2F;building-a-blog-in-django#user-content-the-atom-feed" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;til.simonwillison.net&#x2F;django&#x2F;building-a-blog-in-djan...</a><p>Atom support was easy, thanks to Django&#x27;s built-in syndication library (a feature for over 18 years at this point <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;django&#x2F;django&#x2F;commit&#x2F;944de9e9e638bc239b03f67f459ad4abe4673e48">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;django&#x2F;django&#x2F;commit&#x2F;944de9e9e638bc239b03...</a>)
Helmut10001将近 2 年前
Mkdocs [1], Hugo, Jekyll or 11ty.dev are the way to go for blogs these days. All have RSS plugins.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;du.nkel.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;du.nkel.dev&#x2F;</a>
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diimdeep将近 2 年前
Someone should delve into history and investigate who exactly comprises the group of people in big tech that are responsible for the demise of the RSS&#x2F;ATOM brands. Yes, it was Google that shut down Reader, but who were the individuals behind this decision? Who removed RSS from Firefox?<p>Even on this blog, there is only an email newsletter UI, and no evident way discover and to access the RSS feed unless you intentionally inspect the webpage source code or have installed a browser add-on.
Vanit将近 2 年前
Literally the only reason I even read HN is because of RSS.
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lagniappe将近 2 年前
I built a tiny unopinionated static site generator that is great for blogs. No toolchain or anything fancy, it has RSS support too :) It would be my pleasure if someone wants to try it <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;donuts-are-good&#x2F;bearclaw">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;donuts-are-good&#x2F;bearclaw</a>
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galleywest200将近 2 年前
I had to fork the Hugo theme I chose because the designer felt that RSS was not important to link to, even though Hugo automatically generates it each time you execute the command.
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karaterobot将近 2 年前
&gt; Back in the early days of blogging, the tech press bashed RSS out of existence as it was supposedly too complex for ordinary users.<p>I don&#x27;t remember that being the case. The tech press probably had various opinions on RSS. The ones I read were all fine with it, if they mentioned it at all, but that could just be my bubble. At any rate, what damaged RSS&#x27; adoption was not articles about it. People not knowing how to use it definitely didn&#x27;t help. Content sources wanting to create walled gardens (how did that work out?) hurt a lot. Google Reader going away hurt a lot too. Everybody spending 100% of their time on Facebook or Twitter probably hurt the most. But tech press articles, that&#x27;s one I don&#x27;t remember being a major factor.
nicbou将近 2 年前
My RSS feed is just a summary. This works well enough.
superkuh将近 2 年前
And browsers need to add RSS&#x2F;Atom feed autodiscovery and display (as the little feed icon in the URL bar) back to the browser. It was removed in 2018 by Firefox for no reason at all.
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qudat将近 2 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prose.sh" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prose.sh</a> for a hugo-like blog platform with built-in RSS support.<p>Creating an account is as easy as SSH&#x27;ing into our content management system: `ssh new@prose.sh` (no email necessary).<p>And publishing a blog is as easy as copying files to our server: `scp hello-world.md &lt;user&gt;@prose.sh:&#x2F;`<p>We also host an RSS-to-email service at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;feeds.sh" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;feeds.sh</a> using the same tech.
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nologic01将近 2 年前
&gt; bloggers can provide partial RSS feeds that contain only snippets<p>This plays well with federated microblogging (mastodon and friends). RSS can play both the role of signaling that new content is available and (if desired) providing that content. The signaling aspect is more fundamental imho.<p>A user-centric web should aim to help people manage information overflow without dependency on gatekeepers and their opaque and manipulated algorithmic timelines. There is a certain catch-22 with supply (of RSS feeds) and demand (users with RSS readers).<p>The ideal would be that users could consume and share RSS feeds with the lowest possible friction and highest possible privacy, e.g. have feed readers integrated into the browser (live bookmarks [1] sadly removed from firefox) or their email client [2] (thunderbird offers this).<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;live-bookmarks" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;live-bookmarks</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;how-subscribe-news-feed...</a>
lawn将近 2 年前
Om that note, what are some good RSS readers?<p>Preferably a self-hosted aggregator and some Android app that can sync with it.
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samsquire将近 2 年前
At one point I used wordpress as my blog but then I moved to just using GitHub README.md as my tech ideas journals.<p>The idea is I don&#x27;t need a RSS feed because I publish 100-800 entries in one README.md file, then announce that batch of items (samsquire&#x2F;ideas samsquire&#x2F;ideas2 samsquire&#x2F;ideas3 samsquire&#x2F;ideas4 samsquire&#x2F;ideas5)<p>In other words, a batch of entries is already a feed, because it&#x27;s just a big document and that document should be immutable when I announce it finished.<p>To append to a journal, I append to the bottom. To append to the blog, I prepend to the top.<p>Low tech but it really encourages me to write down my thoughts.
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diimdeep将近 2 年前
Why Firefox removed RSS support? It felt like betrayal of open web.
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velcrovan将近 2 年前
I wrote a rigorous Atom&#x2F;RSS feed generating library in Racket: Splitflap (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joeldueck.com&#x2F;what-about&#x2F;splitflap&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joeldueck.com&#x2F;what-about&#x2F;splitflap&#x2F;</a>)
45473wy将近 2 年前
The only time I used RSS feeds was to automate torrenting.
BaculumMeumEst将近 2 年前
what proportion of web traffic would you guess to be driven by RSS rather than search engines or social media? even among tech blogs?
langsoul-com将近 2 年前
If superfans and economics was your aim, wouldn&#x27;t email news lists be better?<p>Got whatever reason, people would actually pay for a news list.
scary-size将近 2 年前
I’m not going to regularly read your blog if it doesn’t have RSS. Discovery happens here or on Reddit, after that it’s RSS or bust. On the plus side, I can’t remember the last blog that didn’t have a feed.<p>For my main blog [1], I manually update the feed.xml, on my „micro“ blog [2] I have a cron job doing it.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;franz.hamburg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;franz.hamburg</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;atoms.franz.hamburg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;atoms.franz.hamburg</a>
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bob-09将近 2 年前
What&#x27;s the federated version of an RSS&#x2F;atom feed?
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