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NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF

163 点作者 NullHypothesist超过 1 年前

21 条评论

neonate超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230821230643&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;08&#x2F;21&#x2F;technology&#x2F;waymo-driverless-cars-san-francisco.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230821230643&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytim...</a>
_acco超过 1 年前
&gt; My ride was so smooth, the novelty began to wear off, turning a trip to the future into just another journey across town.<p>This is the only nod in the article to how futuristic and revelatory this innovation. The journalists sound so bored.<p>I wonder if this is a function of how “around the corner” this tech has felt for so long? Have we somehow become jaded to this innovation before it has even arrived?<p>Were journalists covering advent of passenger flights dedicating the first half of articles to safety and political concerns before accounting for the experience of a “first in a lifetime” ride?
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banana_giraffe超过 1 年前
Gift link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;08&#x2F;21&#x2F;technology&#x2F;waymo-driverless-cars-san-francisco.html?unlocked_article_code=GgyTpYvmbsq-m6EtivT6rxN79l5sqGbDt-n2yGjh3FirTe9r1rZMFlHQBpNimm1pNtI6M4KMyOlqVnSizX5ONZMbmHuhmSvBnuHvRd6SBa44rnk44xuMePbiKM0VYCduUThwulcg_zMleJKsnWdy07Z2u4smyosX_ZlqpotRBrZRsdRViJSCaJD6Lb7exyDplrjGbJ5r7zH9l6c-T3to7tsOVWB6RG2VTgCiT7N3kDPO82fy-zyOXGHAJEprwFPZTfzZBIeOa-sszw7HKF7yE8x30aoU5mkA1la38gB5hgWnxjjEmDh6fYqxA7FTtuhAwozrgJ7kqRTY4vPT8yCRtxlZyFLSS9nX0me3pqwOZB8&amp;smid=url-share" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;08&#x2F;21&#x2F;technology&#x2F;waymo-driverle...</a>
Diffusion3166超过 1 年前
Am I the only one finding it hard to be excited for this? It seems like automated taxis:<p>0. Encourage the use of cars in cities rather than public transit &amp; walkability.<p>1. Centralize wealth by replacing payments to many drivers with payments to one large company.<p>2. Allow for further surveillance of individuates. It seems likely that Google will eventually create ad inventory by adding screens to the cars and incorporate travel history into peoples marketing profiles.
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quickthrower2超过 1 年前
A concept I look forward to is not just a driverless car, but driverless &quot;various size vehicles&quot; from a 1-person car to a 100-person bus. In this future we could get the advantages of public transport and car-free living into rural and suburban areas, while in the city these systems could adjust and use AI to find optimal routes that are a lot less slower than current buses (or even trains that require 2 or 3 connections). All the while using electric and reducing energy per passenger and knocking over fewer cyclists :-).
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habosa超过 1 年前
The technology is pretty amazing, but does anyone else feel like we (the public) got duped?<p>What I wanted was for my own car to drive itself so I could relax and make better use of car time. I also wanted some new novel ways of interacting with cars to make them feel more like public transit that would be enabled by driverless technology.<p>What we got was ... SciFi Uber. We are not going to be allowed to own the cars, and hiring them for trips will not be any cheaper or easier than Uber. And most will be owned by big companies with motives besides transportation.<p>The driverless future was so exciting in 2013. Now it&#x27;s just ... there.
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jfoster超过 1 年前
&gt; I wondered what would happen if I touched the wheel, so I grabbed it as the Waymo merged from one lane to another. The car ignored me and drove on.<p>Surprised they admit to this, considering earlier in the article they mention being instructed not to touch the wheel.
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FredPret超过 1 年前
So many things that were the preserve of the ultra-rich made it&#x27;s way to the masses thanks to technology finding ways to make it cheaper.<p>- music in your house<p>- new clothes that fit you at least sort-of-well<p>- ice in your kitchen<p>- travel<p>- communication at speed and over large distances<p>- access to a lots of literature<p>- and now, chauffeur-driven cars
barbariangrunge超过 1 年前
But… why couldn’t we just build more and better trains?
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jwr超过 1 年前
As a programmer, I won&#x27;t put myself into that thing. I&#x27;m also not happy to be an unwilling participant in this experiment. Given the state of technology and our capabilities to write bug-free software (Seriously, we can&#x27;t even get things like buying airline tickets correct), I think it&#x27;s way too early to approve those vehicles on city streets.
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abhayhegde超过 1 年前
&gt; <i>Though there’s no driver, each ride is supported by staff at a Waymo site that can be summoned if a car runs into trouble.</i><p>Unless they have multiple rides looked after by a staff, what are they planning to save by not offering a driver? Also, is there any path to profitability given how many billions were poured into the technology? Not that I care so much though, Alphabet has enough profitable ventures to recoup otherwise.
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jfoster超过 1 年前
&gt; we tried to duplicate the experience a tourist might have bopping around the city in a driverless taxi.<p>Tourists are probably going to be the last cohort to get access to Waymo.
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tristanb超过 1 年前
These things should not be allowed to drive as is. I had one ignore a crosswalk and just drive at our family. Alternating between aggressively accelerating towards us and braking. As opposed to the normal behavior of waiting behind the line at the prior junction.
nightshadetrie超过 1 年前
Waymo has been, for the longest, the king in the AV industry. These are the vehicles I would trust my family to drive in.
jwagenet超过 1 年前
Can’t speak for Waymo, but took a Cruise starting in the Tenderloin the other evening. Most people complain about these cars obstructing traffic in some type of way, but not much discussion about rider experience. First, these cars are susceptible to harassment by malicious pedestrians (someone walking around and bumping the car), halting operation. Second, surprisingly, the cars do not always stop for pickup at the specified location (they can get stuck before making a final turn due to an obstruction and still be obstructed when attempting to depart). This doesn’t deter me from using these cars, but some things the service should consider and riders should be aware of when picking routes.
lopkeny12ko超过 1 年前
The article says that the general public in SF can use Waymo starting this week, but is this actually true? My Waymo One app just says I&#x27;m on a waitlist and SF is invite-only.
orzig超过 1 年前
What took them so long? Is “new“ a core concept of “news“, and hasn’t this been possible (in select cities) for many months?
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ctoth超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s like this paragraph is obligatory:<p>&gt; Waymo has had fewer headline-worthy troubles. In May, one of its cars struck and killed a small dog. A few years ago, a driverless Waymo car with a human safety driver operating the wheel hit a pedestrian who needed to be taken to the hospital.<p>After reading that reporters were explicitly instructed to go after tech[0], I just can&#x27;t not see stuff like this.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33456708">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33456708</a>
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smlavine超过 1 年前
&gt; The Waymo rides were affordable, ranging from $18 to $21<p>Goes to show you what world these journalists are living on that think that&#x27;s totally acceptable for a five mile ride. I&#x27;ll stick with public transit.
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b8超过 1 年前
Paywall bypass: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;vMBom" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;vMBom</a>
regnarg超过 1 年前
Thank you! :)