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Your brain on emoji

104 点作者 dnetesn将近 2 年前

29 条评论

d--b将近 2 年前
Emojis are used mostly in 2 ways: punctuating a sentence so that it’s tone is less ambiguous. A shortcut for an emotional state that is not dissimilar to writing “haha” “ew” or “meh”.<p>As a IRC-chatting teenager in the mid-90s, I am somewhat an expert in emoticons and can’t possibly imagine a world where emojis didn&#x27;t exist.<p>But I m surprised no one mentions the “!” or other stylistic tools like all caps. These are “contextual modifiers” for text that have existed for ages. Some languages do have sarcasm punctuation and possibly small adverbs that annotate some kind of emotional state.<p>So basically yes, the article is right, emojis work mostly like words, but for me it’s just a continuation of what existed before (punctuation and onomatopoeia), and its extension and spread was made possible by the technology (an imposed vocabulary and convenient keyboard).
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jodrellblank将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m starting to find them emotionally manipulative in a bad way. FireFox settings should not be showing a sad-face emoji just because it&#x27;s not my default browser.<p>Especially when I&#x27;m using BrowserTamer[1] to intercept all URL launches so I can feed a few work URLs to Edge and Chrome, and FireFox as the default for everything else, so it effectively <i>is</i> my default browser. It&#x27;s not the only piece of software behaving somewhat like that, either.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aloneguid.uk&#x2F;projects&#x2F;bt" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aloneguid.uk&#x2F;projects&#x2F;bt</a>
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teknopaul将近 2 年前
How can American authors write text that says Microsoft introduced... then a word like &quot;Emoji&quot; that is so obviously Japanese Authors still see the world through a lens, that until its big in US, it does not really exist, and then associate it to the US company that copied it first.
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WaffleIronMaker将近 2 年前
I&#x27;m surprised to see the spread of emoji attributed to Microsoft in the initial sentences. It&#x27;s possible that the author may be referring to the smiley faces in extended character pages, or maybe Webdings, but I generally associate the term &#x27;emoji&#x27; with Unicode characters specifically, which I believe to have been petitioned by Google and popularized by Apple.<p>Interesting article either way.
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frereubu将近 2 年前
I was a hold-out for quite a while, like the author, because they felt very twee. The one that convinced me though was the thumbs-up emoji, which can be an entire reply to an email or text, that says &quot;I&#x27;ve read this, and we don&#x27;t need to continue the conversation&quot;, with undertones of agreement or a thank-you. Somehow single-word replies like &quot;Gotcha&quot; or &quot;Yes&quot; felt too curt, and anything longer invited further discussion where I didn&#x27;t want any. I don&#x27;t really use any other emojis though - I love using language too much, and all of the others feel like I can express myself better through words.
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sickcodebruh将近 2 年前
I was also a holdout until I saw emojis described as &quot;body language for text&quot;. That helps contextualize them and let me appreciate them. They let you add so much nuance and personality to text. In a world of async communication, they can be crucial signifiers of intent.
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helloworld将近 2 年前
This link in the article about the history of the :-) emoticon -- proposed by Scott Fahlman of Carnegie Mellon on September 19, 1982 -- is really fascinating:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cs.cmu.edu&#x2F;~sef&#x2F;sefSmiley.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cs.cmu.edu&#x2F;~sef&#x2F;sefSmiley.htm</a>
lapcat将近 2 年前
I quit using emoji entirely almost 5 years ago, though I do continue to use a few simple emoticons. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;lapcatsoftware&#x2F;status&#x2F;1047223298113896450" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;lapcatsoftware&#x2F;status&#x2F;104722329811389645...</a><p>My reasons: &quot;There&#x27;s a method to my madness. You see, gifs are trivially infinitely extensible and backward compatible. Whereas each new emoji requires an addition to Unicode and software updates. And the demand for more emoji is insatiable. That system is not practical or scalable.&quot; (I mentioned gifs there because I was known to frequently post gifs.) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;lapcatsoftware&#x2F;status&#x2F;1052769660846952448" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;lapcatsoftware&#x2F;status&#x2F;105276966084695244...</a>
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throwmeout123将近 2 年前
They make sense as reactions but are absolutely awful in prose. Emoji spam (specially rocket) is the litmus test for “people i dont want to work with”
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JohnMakin将近 2 年前
Emojis in written text can lose their meaning in translation. Your intended meaning may not be what your audience understands, but I guess that’s inherent in most communication.<p>I had a bunch of russian coworkers once, and one of them would constantly type “)))” any time I asked him a question. I thought it was some weird cyrillic keyboard quirk and never paid it any mind, until I learned it’s the approximate russian equivalent for “lol.”<p>Didn’t know what to make of him after that. I guess he thought I was a moron.
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hbn将近 2 年前
I think the biggest issue with (modern, unicode) emoji has been the different art used between OS&#x2F;platform. It seems like everyone is kind of converging on making their emojis convey the same emotion as Apple&#x27;s (which is probably the right move since Apple popularized them, and they&#x27;re baked into a ton of images that have been circulating for years)<p>Samsung had some rough emojis for a while. Look at their old &quot;grimacing&quot; face. Or the old cookies emoji that they made saltine crackers. Or their eye roll emoji which was a sarcastic eye roll on Apple, but Samsung had it as a cute smile. I&#x27;m sure that caused many a communication issue.
sethammons将近 2 年前
&gt; It turns out that a world freshly speckled with [emoji smile] is not really such a changed world after all.<p>I&#x27;ve recently discovered there is a generational gap in smiley usage :)<p>If you are younger, my &quot;:)&quot; above can be taken more as a condescending smirk that puts down the reader. If you are older, it is just a smile and signifies that I&#x27;m, well, what a smile usually means: I&#x27;m being friendly, happy, non-threatening.<p>I apparently now have to watch how I use smileys because younger people have started interpreting the symbol, imho, incorrectly :(<p>(I am unaware if a similar proviso extends to the sad face above)
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overgard将近 2 年前
It&#x27;s funny the way language is evolving; even things like how you use punctuation and capitalization now has meaning.<p>Like 20 years ago, if I was sending an IM or something, I would always just write like I&#x27;m writing here. But now, if I&#x27;m sending someone a text or slack or something, I always feel like it&#x27;s more casual&#x2F;less try hard if it&#x27;s lowercase with relaxed punctuation. (That&#x27;s just my style, I don&#x27;t expect others to match). If I end a text with a period and everything properly capitalized, I almost feel like I&#x27;m being <i>too</i> formal. (Admittedly, some people probably just think I&#x27;m sloppy and lazy!) I never got into writing &quot;u&quot; or &quot;ur&quot; though. For some reason those still bug me.<p>I know a lot of people don&#x27;t like memes or gifs, but actually, I think they&#x27;re great. Sometimes it&#x27;s much more effective to express a sentiment with an image instead of a word or phrase.<p>I always feel a little cringe when I end a sentence in lol, like I&#x27;m laughing at my own joke, although sometimes it helps to soften something I&#x27;m saying.
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labster将近 2 年前
I’m starting to think that Hacker News is on the wrong side of history on this one. Without the emotional channel, we make more misunderstandings, which leads to more hostile posts. Emoji are becoming a permanent part of written language.<p>I don’t want to see a post full of emoji either, but perhaps a filter that allows one emoji per 20 words would work. Perhaps using a font with black line or grayscale emoji?
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pingou将近 2 年前
Does anymore understand &quot;the cake she made was terrible ;)&quot; as ironic? To me the 3 sentences have all the same meaning, the emoji would just represent the way the person feels about it now. And perhaps with the ;), it could mean that they talked about how the person is a terrible cook before.
taylorius将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t like the overly cute emoticon &quot;fonts&quot; that some messengers use. Away into the night with those super smug looking apple cheeked smilies.
ttoinou将近 2 年前
Did you know ? Eastern europeans end words (without space) with singles characters &quot;(&quot; and &quot;)&quot; to indicate full smileys. Only themselves understand each others and they dont tell anyone about it)))
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beauHD将近 2 年前
I don&#x27;t know where I read it, but apparently older people use emojis to feel &#x27;with it&#x27; and cool, whereas the younger crowd barely use them. (I could be wrong, and I have no source, so don&#x27;t quote me on this).<p>Also emojis are yet another data point to do things like sentiment analysis, and have been weaponized by social media companies to target more relevant ADs at you. Tweeted&#x2F;X&#x27;d the beer emoji? Get ready for Heineken ADs.
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eimrine将近 2 年前
What is the difference between &quot;the cake she made was terrible :-)&quot; and &quot;the cake she made was terrible :-(&quot;?
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wlindley将近 2 年前
I just read them all as &quot;tiny little indistinguishable blob.&quot; Too small to see what they are, and other than the smiley-face and a few others, completely devoid of any meaning. Someone sends me an email and all it says is, &quot;[blob] [blob] [blob]&quot; —? I can&#x27;t be bothered to read your mind, please re-send using words.
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diego_sandoval将近 2 年前
While useful, I think that emojis should not have been included in Unicode.<p>Unicode is supposed to be a universal standard, but the inclusion and exclusion of some emojis is an ideological issue. The inclusion and wide usage of emojis gives the Unicode consortium a disproportionate degree of influence over the way we communicate.
baal80spam将近 2 年前
It boggles my mind that emoji can be used in an URL.
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aaroninsf将近 2 年前
Idle comment,<p>I perpetually react poorly to the wink icon, at least, as it appears on Apple devices.<p>I get the sense people intend it to mean &quot;droll wink&quot; which is inclusive and often characteristic of good humored positive &quot;play.&quot;<p>For me the icon parses as a more confrontational eyebrow raise, sardonic shading into sarcastic, with a whiff of the scornful, contemptuous, or hostile.<p>It&#x27;s not a big deal, but it&#x27;s been years and I still have to hand-hold myself past the intuitive reaction by reminding myself that&#x27;s almost never how it was meant.<p>I wish you could swap out the glyphs.
orzi将近 2 年前
Oh my, Internet, what have you done with smileys ;(<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_emoticons" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_emoticons</a>
pwpw将近 2 年前
One of my earlier bits of tinkering when I was younger was jailbreaking my iPhone and finding the code in the Japanese iPhone OS build that enabled emojis and using it to enable emojis on my American iPhone. If I recall correctly, I was then able to send them to other iPhones, but of course no one could reciprocate. I thought I was pretty cool! Most people didn’t really understand their point, and it wasn’t until they were added to the American build where people warmed up to them.
codethief将近 2 年前
I still don&#x27;t understand why emojis had to be added to Unicode. Sure, it helped with adoption but now we&#x27;ve got descriptive glyphs (&quot;beaming face with smiling eyes&quot;) but every font displays them slightly or sometimes even very differently. In some cases, depending on what phone&#x2F;font my conversation partner uses, we might interpret emojis completely differently and <i>we won&#x27;t even know!</i>
uxamanda将近 2 年前
This podcast had an interesting deep dive on the history of on emoji recently - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alieward.com&#x2F;ologies&#x2F;curiology" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alieward.com&#x2F;ologies&#x2F;curiology</a><p>She went into the unicode side of things as well.
new_user_final将近 2 年前
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ryandv将近 2 年前
I find it disturbing that we consider emoji sufficiently expressive to stand in for the depth of meaning that a well-crafted passage can convey.<p>In particular, I have lamented the paucity of information that modern short form social media - 280 character Tweets; 10 second shorts; soundbytes, quips, and shitposts on Reddit - is able to carry. There simply is not enough information within the medium to sufficiently disambiguate the multiple senses and interpretations one can read into the message, and I believe it is this lack of being able to even agree on what is being said that leads to so much miscommunication and conflict today.<p>After all, any reading or interpretation of a message requires some form of _projection_ on the audience&#x27;s part onto the canvas of the medium.<p>Frege once wrote, &quot;Si duo idem faciunt, non est idem. If two persons picture the same thing, each still has his own idea.&quot; [0] Perhaps it is for this reason that Victorian-era writers (John Stuart Mill&#x27;s &quot;On Liberty&quot; comes to mind) employed such a flowery and verbose brand of English; it is only by sketching out their ideas in high enough resolution that one can have some hope in hell of conveying an idea to their reader, intact and bearing at least some resemblance to whatever it is they had in mind.<p>To steal an idea from Wittgenstein&#x27;s Tractatus, 4.026: &quot;The meanings of the simple signs (the words) must be explained to us, if we are to understand them.&quot; If one does not take the time to expand upon the definitions or the subtleties of the words, signs, or emoji they use, it is no surprise that some misunderstanding may arise.<p>Why then, do we suppose that emoji will indeed communicate, unambiguously, the shades and nuances of meaning that we intend, simply because they bear some resemblance to a real-world object or common symbol? Did you contextualize its usage adequately? Is that picture indeed &quot;worth a thousand words?&quot; Which thousand did you choose when you last punched in that heart emoji?<p>Emoji have progressed to a fourth-order simulacrum, in Baudrillard&#x27;s terminology: &quot;it has no relation to any reality whatsoever.&quot; Where perhaps emoji once may have been able to refer to the depth of meaning, the underlying reality to which they point, I find they are now carelessly thrown around, often, as another commenter has mentioned below, towards manipulative ends. Even the simple heart emoji is not something I&#x27;ve even used with my father over iMessage until very recently. Love is after all, a very powerful concept, and yet here we are, throwing it around willy-nilly, left and right, to people we haven&#x27;t even met in person - or worse, _next to the links to purchase reddit premium or reddit gold._ Far from being an actual message of _agape_ or even _philia,_ which may have been a function of a first-order simulacrum, where the map accurately reflected the territory, it has become a hollow icon, meant to evoke some sentiment or feeling in the reader by its presentation alone, and not by virtue of its connection to some actual underlying sense of love.<p>Baudrillard also writes: &quot;All Western faith and good faith became engaged in this wager on representation: that a sign could refer to the depth of meaning, that a sign could be exchanged for meaning and that something could guarantee this exchange - God of course. But what if God himself can be simulated, that is to say can be reduced to the signs that constitute faith?&quot;<p>I am not a Christian, or perhaps even a religious man, but the example is quite poignant. Can you draw me an emoji, an icon, of what was once taken to be the highest and most ineffable concept? And if emoji can fall short of communicating one ideal, why not others?<p>Yet here we are, exchanging hollow signs in a lifeless, meaningless formal system of cold syntax, bereft of semantics.<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scu.edu.tw&#x2F;philos&#x2F;98class&#x2F;Peng&#x2F;05.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scu.edu.tw&#x2F;philos&#x2F;98class&#x2F;Peng&#x2F;05.pdf</a>