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Windows popup to change competing browser search engine to Bing anticompetitive?

76 点作者 aijoe超过 1 年前
I had no browsers open. I was minding my own business. Windows 11 gave me an unsolicited toaster popup, with the default action being to change Chrome&#x27;s default search engine to Bing.<p>This is an atrocious dark pattern and a huge overreach for an operating system, whose job it should be to stay out of my way and run what I tell it to.<p>But more than that, this strikes me as directly anti-competitive behavior. I would appreciate views on this by people having more educated opinions on this than myself.

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hackermatic超过 1 年前
I agree with you. If you have some time, consider writing a comment to your national or state&#x2F;provincial consumer protection regulator.<p>In the US, you can file an antitrust complaint with the FTC here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ftc.gov&#x2F;enforcement&#x2F;report-antitrust-violation" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ftc.gov&#x2F;enforcement&#x2F;report-antitrust-violation</a><p>...and find your state regulator here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usa.gov&#x2F;state-consumer" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usa.gov&#x2F;state-consumer</a>
parker_mountain超过 1 年前
I have honestly given up on Windows. It has extremely strong fundamentals, but they seem determined to mine their users for money instead of investing in a platform. I find what&#x27;s happening in Apple world to be dire, but at least they have been good stewards of the user. Desktop Linux has its own serious problems as well (there&#x27;s a reason its at 3%~ market penetration).<p>I&#x27;m not sure what I&#x27;m going to do. I think Apple for now, keep my usage of Apple services to a reasonable minimum, and keep an eye on what&#x27;s going on in the Linux world.
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esperent超过 1 年前
Yes, it&#x27;s obnoxious. And so are the nonstop popups telling you to use Chrome that Google shows you if you&#x27;re using Edge on Maps, YouTube, Gmail, Search etc.<p>Both of these companies should be slapped hard for doing this.
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thesuperbigfrog超过 1 年前
It is doing what it was programmed to do:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Ag1AKIl_2GM?t=57" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Ag1AKIl_2GM?t=57</a><p>Sadly, this kind of user-hostile behavior is increasingly common and a form of enshitification (see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;doctorow.medium.com&#x2F;tiktoks-enshittification-bb3f5df91979" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;doctorow.medium.com&#x2F;tiktoks-enshittification-bb3f5df...</a>) of the operating system.
naikrovek超过 1 年前
is it a dark pattern if it clearly asks you to do something, and doesn&#x27;t lie or deceive you about what it&#x27;s going to do if you accept or decline?<p>(no, it isn&#x27;t a dark pattern if it isn&#x27;t lying or tricking you into making a decision you would not make otherwise. this particular behavior isn&#x27;t defensible behavior, and it isn&#x27;t an example of a dark pattern, either.)<p>is this how languages evolve so fast? people using words and terms without understanding them <i>in full view</i> of people who don&#x27;t know the term, who then learn the incorrect definition?
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cutler超过 1 年前
Welcome to the year 2000.
deafpolygon超过 1 年前
&gt; Windows 11 gave me an unsolicited toaster popup, with the default action being to change Chrome&#x27;s default search engine to Bing<p>Not doubting you, but as a W11 home user for a while- I haven&#x27;t seen this myself.<p>&gt; This is an atrocious dark pattern and a huge overreach for an operating system<p>It&#x27;s not a dark pattern. It&#x27;s definitely an annoying thing - how is this different from Apple reminding you to set-up Apple Pay?
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