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The Decomposition of Rotten Tomatoes

203 点作者 tortilla超过 1 年前

68 条评论

ernestipark超过 1 年前
Rotten tomatoes is actually very useful if you know the magic formula:<p>* If tomatometer &amp; audience score are within 5% of each other, you can trust the ratings to give you a decent indiciation of movie quality.<p>* If tomatometer is more than 15%+ higher than audience score, it means it&#x27;s an artsy fartsy movie that critics like and movies don&#x27;t.<p>* If audience score is 15%+ higher than tomatometer, it&#x27;s a fun movie even if it&#x27;s not oscar worthy. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rottentomatoes.com&#x2F;m&#x2F;old_school" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rottentomatoes.com&#x2F;m&#x2F;old_school</a> is a perfect example)
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crmd超过 1 年前
In the old days I trusted Siskel and Ebert for movie reviews the way I now trust guys like Project Farm and Jeff Geerling for product reviews.<p>We are born with pretty good 1:1 bullshit detectors, and exceptionally credible people easily earn my trust. Aggregated review platforms like rotten tomatoes and Amazon are just garbage.
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miamibre超过 1 年前
For me the the only review service that is worth any salt is for video games and it&#x27;s Steam Reviews<p>-Requires the reviewer to actually own &#x2F; play the game<p>-Highlights the amount of time played so you can easily filter out people who just dismissed<p>-Lets you know who got the game for free or reviewed the game in early access<p>-The magnitude of votes is shown which lets you know if it is a niche title or mainstream blockbuster<p>-Gives you a timeline of votes so you can see changes over time and see if there are any review bomb cycles happening<p>It&#x27;s not perfect but I find it wild that people think there is any value in these movie review aggregator sites when you can&#x27;t even verify if the person watched the movie at all and these guys can just spam votes. Worse yet there isn&#x27;t any incentive for the site to change this since more traffic means more eyeballs for ads.
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siglesias超过 1 年前
I think as a culture we&#x27;ve gotten far too comfortable being complicit in casual corruption, rationalizing that &quot;it&#x27;s just the way things are.&quot; We should remind ourselves that it doesn&#x27;t need to be this way.
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jasonlotito超过 1 年前
On Reviews<p>Find reviewers who agree with your tastes, and who like the things you enjoy. Follow them. Ignore the metacritic-like sites.<p>This is especially useful for games. Which is why it boggles my mind when people get upset at reviewers. Reviewers are not reviewing for everyone. Rather, they are reviewing for their readers. It&#x27;s okay to disagree. It just means this persons tastes are different for yours.<p>The problem is people forgot how to use reviewers, and instead, just see them as weapons in a the game of &quot;highest metacritic score.&quot;<p>It&#x27;s silly.<p>Find the reviewers you agree with most of the time. Find several, listen to all of them, and make your judgement from that. Ignore the masses.
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justinpombrio超过 1 年前
Well <i>that</i> could explain The Rings of Power getting 83% on Rotten Tomatoes. I certainly can&#x27;t think of any other explanation.
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arpowers超过 1 年前
Let me tell you a story...<p>Years ago a friend of mine in SF started a review site, it gained traction by being fair and balanced. Once the website was a top 1000 site on the internet, my friend started to try and make money with advertising.<p>After a while, he grew dependent on a few select advertisers. Too dependent.<p>While he had built the business with integrity, at some point, he decided to start &quot;helping&quot; his advertisers get better reviews... to build goodwill and keep the checks coming.<p>This is fine, except it undermines the purpose of a review site. This is the time when his traffic plained out and started to decline.<p>I&#x27;m sure the same is happening here.
matt_j超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t trust anyone to review a film, but I still read&#x2F;watch reviews. Over the years I&#x27;ve learned to read between the lines a bit and I usually have a gut feeling for how a reviewer and the film in question &#x27;match up&#x27;.<p>People that &#x27;hate&#x27; art movies are usually wrong. People that &#x27;love&#x27; popcorn movies are too. Art movies are nuanced and delicate, so hating it with a 1 star review is too broad of a brush to paint your opinion with. If you don&#x27;t like art and connecting with humanity, don&#x27;t watch art movies (peasant). Similarly, popcorn movies are trash (&lt;3) and love is too strong a word. Have fun, be entertained, but if you love The Avengers with all 5 stars you are paper thin.<p>I speak strongly with a smile and fully accept that film is a subjective medium, open to interpretation, and you can go ahead and hate The Royal Tenenbaums if you want, and love The Avengers if you want, but I will take your review with a large grain of salt and you deserve to not to be taken too seriously.
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sph超过 1 年前
Rotten Tomatoes, owned by Warner Bros. and NBC, part of Fandango Media, a movie ticketing company.<p>One would have to work hard to prove they were NOT biased in the first place, or at least since 2011 when they sold out to the movie industry.<p>FYI, the other big name in movie reviews, IMDb, has been owned by Amazon since 1998 (color me surprised, I didn&#x27;t know it had been this long until I checked on Wikipedia), and they also had their own streaming service, IMDb TV, now called Amazon Freevee.
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phpisthebest超过 1 年前
Jokes on them, if the critics think a movie is bad then i will watch it, movie that has a 100% fresh score from critics goes on my never watch list...<p>the User Reviews seem to be more accurate but RT does manipulate them as well citing &quot;view botting&quot; for any trends that do not match their desired outcome from a film
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nowooski超过 1 年前
The FTC is actually in the process of finalizing new regulations that would target abuses like these. Unfortunately, they only apply to the united states so will likely have little effect. This post goes into why the FTC&#x27;s proposed regulations are likely to fail. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.perfectrec.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;why-the-ftcs-new-fake-review-regulations-wont-work" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.perfectrec.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;why-the-ftcs-new-fake-revie...</a>
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rfwhyte超过 1 年前
Chinese and Indian film studios have been doing this for years on both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. So many absolutely abysmal Chinese and Indian movies have 90%+ user scores on both platforms, it&#x27;s painfully obvious to anyone even paying a modicum of attention that they&#x27;re gaming these sites, as there&#x27;s no way thousands of people can all think these utter turd movies &#x2F; shows are actually gems regardless of whatever cultural relativism based excuses people try and trot out.<p>The bottom line is basically every single site that aggregates reviews or has user reviews is functionally useless now, as there are entire multi-billion dollar industries employing tens of thousands of people in China, India, Russia and the Philippines devoted to flooding the sites with fake reviews and the sites themselves know this all to well and do nothing to stop is as they make more money this way.
pallas_athena超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t trust RT scores, I don&#x27;t trust IMDB scores and I don&#x27;t trust Metacritic scores. All can be gamed.<p>For non-contemporary movies I trust the Sight&amp;Sound poll [1]. Yes, it&#x27;s mostly artsy-fartsy movies. I love them.<p>Sure, that can also be gamed, but very much less so: if you are voting you can pick only your top 10 movies ever, and then the next poll is in ten years. It&#x27;s very difficult to push marketing on it.<p>I can of course see two points of failure still:<p>1. Since it&#x27;s Sight&amp;Sound who picks the voters, they could choose only voters that fits their &quot;ideology&quot;. I don&#x27;t see what this ideology could be. Also, most directors are very well-known, and they wouldn&#x27;t vote for Marvel Movie #19 since the votes are public [2].<p>2. A lot of voters could make a deal among themselves to all pick a certain movie. This is in part mitigated by the large numbers of voters, but of course it can happen.<p>Paul Schrader gave a lot of shit online because the #1 movie in the 2022 edition was &quot;Jeanne Dielman&quot;. He sees that as &quot;Distorted Woke Reappraisal&quot; [3].<p>I think he&#x27;s full of shit, and the S&amp;S Poll is the most credible snapshot of (art?) movies made every 10 years.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bfi.org.uk&#x2F;sight-and-sound&#x2F;greatest-films-all-time" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bfi.org.uk&#x2F;sight-and-sound&#x2F;greatest-films-all-ti...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bfi.org.uk&#x2F;sight-and-sound&#x2F;greatest-films-all-time&#x2F;all-voters" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bfi.org.uk&#x2F;sight-and-sound&#x2F;greatest-films-all-ti...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiewire.com&#x2F;features&#x2F;general&#x2F;paul-schrader-sight-and-sound-poll-too-woke-1234787868&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiewire.com&#x2F;features&#x2F;general&#x2F;paul-schrader-sig...</a>
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smiley1437超过 1 年前
To me, RT turning to shit is just Goodhart&#x27;s Law in action - &quot;when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure&quot;<p>Originally, RT was more or less a &#x27;good faith&#x27; measurement of the general sentiment\quality of a film, but it is so easily manipulated it was inevitable that it would become meaningless.
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at_a_remove超过 1 年前
I used to do film reviews quasi-professionally. There&#x27;s zero excuse for bribery, the work is hard enough to perform well as it is. Reviewers have at least three tasks before them.<p>1) The TV Guide summary, which consists of one or two sentences describing what happens during the film, perhaps a categorization, then some references to the actors wherein based on a scale which multiplies how much time that person is in the film against how famous that person is. The runtime part is easy. Then you have your star rating, which is almost agonizing. This product is used to determine whether or not you will just sort of put something on while you fold laundry.<p>2) The &quot;do I want to exert effort and&#x2F;or money seeing this film?&quot; review. This is the most dangerous part. You have no idea who is reading this. How will you know that they will or will not like this movie? Your best bet here is to cover the most objective portions of the film in detail. Your subjective impressions must highlight their subjectivity and point out your own biases. This allows for the &quot;Ebert doesn&#x27;t really do most horror films well&quot; factor, as well as some of his other quirks. For all that I might disagree, he wore his heart on his sleeve and I could predict which films he might give short shrift.<p>3) The third product is a monologue, hopefully something which can start a conversation somewhere, about the more abstract businesses of film-making. How has this actor developed over time? Is this a worthy entry in this director&#x27;s career? Are there rip-offs, allusions, homages, nudges and winks? You can talk about anything which struck you during the film, so long as you leave room to begin a kind of dialogue with someone, somewhere.<p>The best you can hope for is that a reader understands what you have said in your review to the point where they can decide not to see a film you like, or vice versa, because you have sufficiently explained your reaction. I would not call myself a tastemaker, but I am good at, with friends, identifying what they will and will not like, whether or not I care for the film. A great deal of that just comes from examination of my own biases (my turn-ons, my turn-offs, my habits and my aversions).<p>It is a shame, but not especially shocking, at how we have just another clumsy fumble at our wallets and minds.
CyberDildonics超过 1 年前
Fandango owns rotten tomatoes and warner brothers owns a minority stake in fandango.<p>Also anyone with a little cynicism who watches movies is probably not shocked by this.<p>There has been a lot of positive review inflation over time and there are other tricks like having a score for &#x27;critics&#x27; and a separate score for &#x27;top critics&#x27;.<p>Then there is question of if the review they post was actually positive or not. There are plenty of ways to bend and play games with their system and the seem to do it. Just like yelp &#x27;does not delete bad reviews&#x27; if you pay them, they just get relegated to a hard to find page and not counted.
squidsoup超过 1 年前
I generally don&#x27;t like social media, but Letterboxd is an excellent alternative to review aggregators, as you can find individuals with similar tastes to yourself. I&#x27;ve found many films I&#x27;ve greatly enjoyed via my Letterboxd network that I would not have otherwise.
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at_a_remove超过 1 年前
Didn&#x27;t they just <i>throw out</i> a bunch of reviews when the audience didn&#x27;t care for it but the people in charge wanted a good showing?<p>The shadow of the Butcher&#x27;s Thumb looms large. I&#x27;ve started to see it more and more. Everyone wants to put their sticky digits on the scale to push it in the direction they like. Film reviews, product testing, the news ... and there&#x27;s so many ways they can do it: the &quot;window&quot; of the data, deciding what is an outlier, and so on. I get to feeling paranoid when I look into it.
tgv超过 1 年前
Reviews have incentives, so crowd sourcing them is broken, in principle. You can try to monitor the reviewers, and put punishments and bans in place, or just pay them to do your job for you.
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bluedays超过 1 年前
I’ve been wondering for a while if a Nate Silver like system of rating critics might be a better approach. Then you might get a more accurate accounting of critical reviews.
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o1y32超过 1 年前
Ever since I discovered that some reviews used in rotten tomatoes are unscripted YouTube videos, in the sense that the reviewer just talks about a movie however their thoughts lead them without any organization, I stopped paying attention to rotten tomato scores. I am sure a lot of people prefer a video review to a carefully written and edited nytimes review (as an actual article), but that&#x27;s not for me.
testplzignore超过 1 年前
$50? Even Congresspeople can&#x27;t be bribed that cheaply. Great return on investment.
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healsdata超过 1 年前
&quot;Audiences are dumber.&quot; Says the filmmaker Paul Schrader.<p>Schrader&#x27;s last half dozen films were rated across the spectrum by critics on RT, middling by audiences, and barely broke even in aggregate. The idea that this is done combination of RT and dumber audiences&#x27; fault is a possibility but equally possible is that he just doesn&#x27;t know how to make movies for modern audiences.
darklycan51超过 1 年前
I always knew this was the case, it was a huge hunch I had from the Spiderman&#x2F;Venom fiasco.<p>Was Amazing Spiderman incredible? no it was far from it, was Venom 1 good? it was good except the last fight, literally.<p>Yet its rating was 30%. (audience 80%)<p>Morbius as much as I hated the actor personally, I liked the movie, it felt like spiderman 1 in a way, the cinematic shots were better than anything Marvel has done in years.<p>Yet they all get horribly rated, Black Adam was I felt, good, more interesting and better CGI than literally every Marvel movie since maybe endgame, yet it was critically butchered.<p>NOBODY can tell me that Disney doesn&#x27;t weaponize critics.<p>(For people who do not get it, review bombing Sony produced Marvel movies made them do worse at box office which in turn made Sony or forced Sony to give the rights back to Marvel).
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roamerz超过 1 年前
Problem is for sites that do this is that users quickly find out. The last 2 movies I went and saw based on RT ratings were crap. I had noticed a downward trend on accuracy and now this makes sense. RT had a much diminished value to me now.
chaostheory超过 1 年前
No surprise. The more power is concentrated, the higher the chance of corruption. This is a weakness of centralizing anything
wly_cdgr超过 1 年前
From the article: &quot;Audiences are dumber&quot; - Paul Schrader.<p>Lol, fuck you too, buddy.
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jl6超过 1 年前
&gt; The site responded by delisting a variety of Bunker 15 films from their website.<p>I wonder if we can find out which films these were. Interesting that the punishment was applied to the films, not to the critics.
mhh__超过 1 年前
Just give me a filter to discard the opinions of marvel fans and we&#x27;re onto something.
HideousKojima超过 1 年前
&gt;The PR firm, named Bunker 15, is said to pay as much as $50.00 for a single Rotten Tomatoes review.<p>The article makes it sound like this is how much the firm is paying members of the official critics pool for reviews, not ordinary users. If $50 is the upper bound for how much they can get paid then journalism must be an even more terrible career than I already thought.
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klabb3超过 1 年前
Definitely felt this with IMDB and now also RT. Sometimes it’s political, but more often it seems like new mediocre movies get amazing ratings, which just didn’t add up. For a while, I thought it was just enthusiast bias but it makes more sense that there’s gaming going on. “Foreign” movies very often get shit ratings, especially when they don’t copy-paste the Anglo-Hollywood style and tropes.<p>In either case, my best advice for reviews in general is: take it with a big grain of salt. Ie don’t compare 7.5 with 7.8. Barbie vs Oppenheimer ratings is not gonna tell you anything useful, even if there’s no gaming going on. Never obsess over subjective measurements.<p>Instead, use a 5.2 rating as an indicator that it’s very likely to be bad. But if it’s say a documentary about something you have nerded out on, then it <i>may</i> have you glued to the screen.
say_it_as_it_is超过 1 年前
RT reviewers brigade against Dave Chappelle every single time. Because of this, I don&#x27;t trust RT scores at all.
yellow_lead超过 1 年前
Isn&#x27;t this illegal? The FCC should investigate. These &#x27;reviews&#x27; are paid sponsorships which need to be disclosed.
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purpleblue超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m sorry but is anyone surprised? I haven&#x27;t trust reviews in a long, long time. I&#x27;ll take a look every now and then knowing they are largely fake and with an agenda. But to be shocked that some critics are being paid is pretty laughable in this day and age.
gustavus超过 1 年前
You&#x27;re telling me that the huge disparity between Audience and Critics reviews on RT isn&#x27;t because the unenlightened masses are to stupid to realize what a cinematic masterpiece &lt;insert preferred culture war movie&gt; was?<p>Well color me shocked, absolutely shocked.
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Simulacra超过 1 年前
All review sites can be purchased, it doesn&#x27;t matter what it is. Any platform where there is an up or down vote by Internet users is almost certainly, if not mostly, disingenuous. No review site should be trusted.
Ekaros超过 1 年前
Only shocking thing about this is that it only posted now... Not years ago.
brightlancer超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m shocked, shocked that there is gaming of systems for economic benefit!<p>Obviously, paying to get a positive review or to bury a negative review is cheating and should be treated as such.<p>OTOH, paying to get reviewed honestly is completely OK -- it&#x27;s how many indie films get noticed. While large studios don&#x27;t (openly) offer cash, they do entice reviewers with food, drinks, meeting cast &amp; crew, swag, etc. Some reviewers seem to feel pressured, others seem to not give a care. AFAICT, they all keep getting re-invited.
karim79超过 1 年前
For me RT has mostly been a reasonable indicator of what is worth watching and what isn&#x27;t, subjective as that might seem.<p>Some stuff though just doesn&#x27;t make any sense to me (going back to the point about subjectivity).<p>I love the movie The Ninth Gate, and that scores 44% on RT with the critics, and 57% with the audience.<p>I know a lot of people who love it as well. So I thought that the reviews were perhaps influenced by Polanski&#x27;s history, but then when you look at The Pianist, which came after by quite some years, it scored 95%. So what gives?
Sparkyte超过 1 年前
A lot of people pay for reviews.<p>Movies are no different from video games and other stuff. You quickly find out who is paid to win when the whole media under review is quite opposite of the review itself.
SlightlyLeftPad超过 1 年前
This practice is now called “Search Engine Optimization.” Right?
Exuma超过 1 年前
Now that&#x27;s a great cover photo for a blog post... vivid.
Simulacra超过 1 年前
I once knew a guy who would never see a movie unless it had a high Tomatoes score. He was a marketing manager for US News, which makes this article hilarious.
goodbyesf超过 1 年前
No shit. What&#x27;s next? PR firms pay reddit power users to push ads and propaganda on the subs they control?<p>If PR firms can pay the nytimes to sell war, surely they are capable of buying a few positive reviews for movies.<p>Yelp is the last straw for me. If yelp reviews are found to be bought and sold, I&#x27;ll lose all faith in social media and the reviews ecosystem. If we can&#x27;t trust yelp, then who can we trust?
DrThunder超过 1 年前
RT does stink but their diagnosis as to why is hilariously wrong. It stinks because they DO try to put verified &quot;critics&quot; above the general public.<p>I had to laugh at this - &quot;Every review carries the same weight whether it runs in a major newspaper or a Substack with a dozen subscribers.&quot; Yeah, and that&#x27;s a good thing. Why should subscriber base give your review more weight? I can read that individual&#x27;s review if I want to know what they think, I don&#x27;t need to get a higher weight for the total review from everyone.<p>Then this was just as laughable - &quot;Misogynist trolls had hijacked the platform, coordinating to tank women-led movies like Captain Marvel before they opened.&quot; No, it was an objectively BAD movie with an actress that acts like a stiff unenthused robot delivering her lines.<p>In conclusion, this author thinks RT needs be fixed because it&#x27;s not reflecting his bias that the movie industry needs to be more &quot;inclusive&quot; and no movie that includes that &quot;inclusivity&quot; ought to ever receive a poor rating because obviously all of those ratings are racist, misogynist, -ist this, -ist that etc.<p>Here&#x27;s my prescription: Just watch the movies and make your own mind up. If you have to go to a site like RT, ignore the critic reviews completely because almost all live in a bubble and can&#x27;t relate with common movie goers.
lofaszvanitt超过 1 年前
Critics are idiots. These aggregator sites dilute and remove their power and give it to the aggregator site. Critics should ban these aggregator sites alltogether so they could not quote&#x2F;use their reviews. Critics already had their GPT moment, but they didn&#x27;t notice it.
ajonit超过 1 年前
It’s a decade+ long problem asking for a solution. Not just this one site, Amazon, Google etc are littered with fake reviews and none of those companies are concerned.<p>If these companies don’t get their act together soon, I’m sure the Govt of various countries will compel them to do so.
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hindsightbias超过 1 年前
I wish the Pitch Meeting channel guy would do second-tier movies. He’s saved me a lot of money.
hgsgm超过 1 年前
RT is an industry shill site, fine.<p>Worse is that Web Search Engines promote it as authoritative gospel.
wodenokoto超过 1 年前
In rotten tomatoes defense there aren’t really any commercial reviewers left that don’t work for sponsorships (and it’s not like audience scores are hard to manipulate)<p>Like, what is left for them to aggregate?
MichaelMoser123超过 1 年前
every online platform is going down the drain, including HN. We got a very adversarial and uniform style of discussions, lately.<p>Commenting here feels like submitting a pull request.
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slowhadoken超过 1 年前
Word of mouth among friends with similar taste is still king. Otherwise it’s trial and error.
free_glamorgan超过 1 年前
The state of Rotten Tomatoes turned out to be a very accurate bellwether for the state of the (US-centric) movie industry in general. It really is a shame what happened to one of the little bastions of human-centric freedom of expression and opinion.
friend_and_foe超过 1 年前
Is anyone surprised? Or was this a &quot;consiparcy theory&quot; up til today?<p><i>All</i> of these review sites, every single one of them, are influence peddlers. All review articles are paid PR. Every single one.
AlbertCory超过 1 年前
Up a level: any notion of a &quot;score&quot; for a movie is inherently BS. The box office totals are there, if you want a score.<p>Pick one or two critics you know &amp; respect, read them, and decide for yourself if you might like that film.
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gcau超过 1 年前
Not only the critic reviews, but the audience reviews are botted too.
pelagicAustral超过 1 年前
What a shocker... It&#x27;s been a while since I cared about reviews on products or services... the only amusing iteration of the whole &#x27;review&#x27; system was done by Vice while ago, they used to send this reporter to go to the worst reviewed X business in a certain area and review it himself... Very funny stuff indeed. &#x27;One Star Reviews&#x27; it was called... even then, it wasn&#x27;t like these places were being properly judged...<p>On a side note, a lot of people missed the chance to watch a show called Review, which is too damn good: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Review_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Review_(TV_series)</a> go watch it.
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generalizations超过 1 年前
Not really surprising, this is just confirmation of what&#x27;s been apparent for a while - Audience score is an accurate estimate of the movie, and the tomatometer (the critic score) basically just reflects the political correctness &#x2F; marketing budget of the movie.
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legitster超过 1 年前
Honestly, all review aggregates are kind of trash. It&#x27;s crazy that we have stuck with either binary or 5 star ratings this whole time across the internet.<p>I had a product idea I have yet to make where you replace <i>ratings</i> with <i>rankings</i>. Instead of giving something a 1-5 review, you just answer a few quick questions whether something is better or worse than a listed alternative. You aggregate enough rankings and you can give everything a percentile score. The number is actually meaningful - a 70% means people on average think that it&#x27;s 70% better than all ranked alternatives.<p>And you can&#x27;t lie or influence a ranking as easily. &quot;You think Rings of Power is a good show? Okay, but are you are actually going to rank it above The Sopranos?&quot;
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ARandomerDude超过 1 年前
The most shocking part to me is that this is &quot;news.&quot; It&#x27;s like saying &quot;Exclusive: there are fake reviews on Amazon!&quot;<p>Companies depend on good reviews to make sales, so dishonest companies and reviewers see mutual benefit in purchasing dishonest reviews. It&#x27;s a frustrating but old problem.
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cs702超过 1 年前
Silly me, being on HN I clicked on this expecting to see something like a Singular Value Decomposition of Rotten Tomatoes ratings. Sigh.<p>I read the OP anyway. It&#x27;s worth reading. The short of it is that movie studios and their unscrupulous apparatchiks are <i>paying</i> less prominent movie critics to keep negative reviews out of view of Rotten Tomatoes, for example, by publishing those negative reviews in a separate, more obscure blog.<p>Personally, I now trust only the reviews of a handful of movie critics whose reviews have proven to be reliable over the years.
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tlogan超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!<p>Review sites can still be helpful. Even though many reviews might be paid for, you can usually spot them if you read carefully. And then you can focus on the genuine reviews.
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andreygrehov超过 1 年前
Isn&#x27;t that how the entire world rolling? There was even a website to buy upvotes on HN - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27580387">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27580387</a> (looks like dead now). Luckily, because of the nature of the HN community, buying upvotes here is the silliest marketing strategy. The community smells bullshit from thousand miles.
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bigbacaloa超过 1 年前
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timetraveller26超过 1 年前
How could AI improve this? &#x2F;s
caractacus超过 1 年前
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tbbfjotllf超过 1 年前
This is not the Rotten Tomatoes I was expecting but I&#x27;m not complaining.
Etrnl_President超过 1 年前
But the news told me only negative reviews are fake. How do they explain that?