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Apple should re-release Safari for Windows

83 点作者 cacozen超过 1 年前

17 条评论

mikestew超过 1 年前
Said by someone that I&#x27;m going to have to assume never used the Windows version of Safari when it was available. I was one of those hard-core Mac users forced to use Windows for work, and...meh, it was easier to quit struggling against the restraints and just use Firefox if I wanted an alternative browser. I mean, Safari on Windows was fine (best I can remember), but the only thing it really seemed to bring to the table was &quot;it looks like the browser on my Mac&quot;. Faster JS? Who cares? Geeks, that&#x27;s who. And Apple isn&#x27;t about to spend gazillions to write a Windows browser for geeks (hell, look at how they treat devs for their own platforms).<p>So when I use a Windows machine (ten years or so later, still have to use one for work), I just fire up Firefox, just like I&#x27;d do even if there were a current version of Safari for Windows. I have no ideological dog in this fight, so I&#x27;ll go the easiest route that doesn&#x27;t involve Edge or Chrome.<p>EDIT: oops, <i>there&#x27;s</i> an HN bug. I went to update the original comment, and it posts this duplicate (with my updates) instead. I&#x27;ll delete the original&#x2F;dupe here in a minute or two.
mvdtnz超过 1 年前
This person lives in a fantasy land. Safari may be on a brief hot streak right now but they have a long and deep history of dragging feet and literally slowing down the entire ecosystem.
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modeless超过 1 年前
Apple still builds WebKit for Windows, and you can run it today! <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;james.darpinian.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;safari-on-windows" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;james.darpinian.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;safari-on-windows</a><p>Of course, it&#x27;s not Safari. But it could be useful for testing CSS quirks or similar without requiring a Mac. And if Apple wanted to ship Safari for Windows... well it would still be a tremendous amount of work. And I don&#x27;t see what Apple would get out of it. But at least porting WebKit is already half done.
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o1y32超过 1 年前
Yeah, &quot;should&quot;, as in &quot;Apple should invest millions of dollars in a product that (almost) nobody uses or cares about&quot;. Tweeting is easy, isn&#x27;t it?
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smoldesu超过 1 年前
Why wait for Apple to do it? WebKit is Open Source and cross-platform, all of the tools to make a stripped-back, privacy respecting browser are right in front of you. Linux even has a couple WebKit-based browsers to prove that it&#x27;s possible, although none of them are really that popular relative to Chrome or Firefox. All things considered, it&#x27;s not surprising that Apple (or anyone really) hasn&#x27;t done this.
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tstrimple超过 1 年前
One of the reasons I appreciate Safari on OS X is that it&#x27;s one of the fastest and lowest power usage browsers due to Apple being intimately familiar with their internal APIs and hardware. I never got the same feeling of polish for <i>any</i> software Apple makes to run on Windows. I feel like a lot of what makes Safari worthwhile on OS X simply won&#x27;t exist on a Windows version.
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phil917超过 1 年前
Please no. Safari is the browser that gives our company the most pain by far in terms of development and user experience.<p>And when I’ve personally tried using it on my various Macs over the years, I’ve always encountered bugs and glitches on websites that are seemingly not there with other browsers.<p>To be honest I’m pretty unhappy with a few of Apple’s “core” apps. Music is another dumpster fire...
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WhereIsTheTruth超过 1 年前
That would be nice, Apple and Mozilla seems to be the only companies caring about efficiency..<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;homullus&#x2F;8-browsers-in-a-tiny-car-energy-efficiency-benchmark-fe3ca82f1690" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;homullus&#x2F;8-browsers-in-a-tiny-car-energy-...</a>
jug超过 1 年前
Yes, please! More Webkit on Windows and in particular Safari of course for testing. But also for the sake of renderer competition. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;d hurt Apple other than maintenance overhead. Safari of all things never gave Apple the slightest of a competitive edge! iMessages and stuff did.<p>I&#x27;m also a weirdo in that I actually fancy macOS smoother &quot;typeface-first&quot; font hinting (or rather lack thereof) even if they become a bit &quot;blurrier&quot;.
bee_rider超过 1 年前
If we’re signing Apple up for big projects without any discernible benefit, why not shoot for the moon? Apple should release iOS for x86. Makes about as much sense.
kylehotchkiss超过 1 年前
I’m working full time in safari nowadays and very recently google decided that logins for accounts with yubikeys as required 2fa no longer can sign in without errors. I love safari but it’s frustrating that it’s still second class for even major companies like google to test their changes on.
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gruturo超过 1 年前
Not quite sure I see Apple being willing to spend resources to make Windows less of an unpleasant cesspool, and even losing business if a few people, thanks to Safari, find it tolerable and don&#x27;t switch to Apple.
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dangerface超过 1 年前
Its like people are just trying to trigger me today. Windows has IE and edge, safari is just a slower more buggy version of that. I don&#x27;t care if the js engine is 50% faster if its dom implementation doesn&#x27;t follow any standard and the rendering engine is 200% slower.<p>If people cared about any of the above they would use edge not chrome and firefox, people care about stability and compaitibility.
andrewstuart超过 1 年前
Urgh no thanks.<p>We only just saw the end of IE6, don’t bring it back.<p>Safari is deliberately stunted, behind and incompatible.<p>Simple, top of the head example, where is AV1 video playback?
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vGPU超过 1 年前
I don’t even use safari on Mac, why would I use it on windows?
tibbydudeza超过 1 年前
ITunes for Windows - clearly Apple don&#x27;t care about Windows.
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peachwan超过 1 年前
For frontend developers, debugging in Safari can be quite challenging.