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Xfce Wayland Development Roadmap

239 点作者 LaSombra超过 1 年前

26 条评论

jcarrano超过 1 年前
By far the best thing with XFCE is that it does not change, it merely improves. Other DEs and applications radically change the UI between releases.<p>I have my XFCE desktop working as I want now and I don&#x27;t want to change it or having to learn where buttons are located after an update. With Gnome and Windows I feel like a lab rat for their UI experiments.
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ducktective超过 1 年前
Xfce, the &quot;Just Works&quot; of Linux desktop environments not only the DE itself but also its suite of apps like Thunar.<p>They recently moved to gtk4 (or are planning to?). I wonder what would be the difference between gtk3 and gtk4 apps in terms of latency and performance.
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luciusdomitius超过 1 年前
XFCE is frankly the last full featured Desktop Environment, truly focusing on responsiveness and zero-lag SGI-style: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=9EEY87HAHzk&amp;pp=ygUbc2lsaWNvbiBncmFwaGljcyBjb21tZXJjaWFs">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=9EEY87HAHzk&amp;pp=ygUbc2lsaWNvb...</a> MacOS X, Windows and the mainstream Linux DEs have nice animations, but it is fun watching them the first day. After that it is just annoying.<p>Really hope that Wayland integration works well for them.
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bradley13超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve been using Xubuntu for years - it just works, with no clutter. Absolutely my only complaint are the very thin window borders - this is a setting you cannot individually adjust. However, one quickly gets used to (alt + right-click + drag).
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ndsipa_pomu超过 1 年前
I used to use XFCE (specifically XUbuntu), but found that its handling of hi-dpi displays on laptops etc. wasn&#x27;t very good, so switched to Plasma&#x2F;KDE which seems to work better. Still have issues with certain flatpak apps not scaling properly though.
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not_your_vase超过 1 年前
Wayland protocol will celebrate its 15th birthday later this month. TFA is great news, but something isn&#x27;t right here.<p>I really start to think that the X11-&gt;Wayland migration is a bigger clusterfuck than Python2-&gt;3 was - even if we consider that a compositor migration is much bigger task than Python migration.
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lizknope超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve been using XFCE for the last 15 years. Before that it was vtwm, fvwm, afterstep, but I could never get into GNOME or KDE. XFCE just does everything I need and I don&#x27;t see any reason to switch.
pjmlp超过 1 年前
XFCE has become my go to desktop environment after Ubuntu dropped Unity, so it is nice to see an updated roadmap.
dathinab超过 1 年前
&gt; As long as Nvidia does not support Wayland<p>AFIK this problem was solved ~2 years ago when Nvidia added support for GBM in version 495.44 (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nvidia.com&#x2F;download&#x2F;driverResults.aspx&#x2F;181274&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nvidia.com&#x2F;download&#x2F;driverResults.aspx&#x2F;181274&#x2F;en...</a>)
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Nursie超过 1 年前
I really love XFCE. I used it on and off on low-resource machines since the late 00s, and then moved to it for my main desktop when the Gnome3 thing happened. I&#x27;ve never looked back (though I&#x27;ll admit I&#x27;m also a macbook user!).<p>What do I like? It&#x27;s never forced me to change the way I work. That&#x27;s up to me.<p>So if Wayland is the future, then I look forward to using XFCE on Wayland somewhere down the line too.
izoow超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve recently been giving Xfce a try again on one of my machines, and even though I still prefer KDE on my main machine, I&#x27;ve been quite enjoying it. Especially the SPEED of it has been astonishing. Everything is just absolutely instant. I also really like the &quot;spartan&quot; feel of it.<p>Probably the main thing I&#x27;m missing from KDE is being able fo use Super+Number to switch between windows, i.e. Super+1 switches to the window at the first position in the taskbar, etc.. I&#x27;ve been searching around, but haven&#x27;t found anything that&#x27;d be 100%. Would anyone happen to have a solution by any chance?
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totallywrong超过 1 年前
Just want to show massive appreciation for Xfce. Best DE ever. I&#x27;m currently forced to use macOS in the work laptop and I miss Xfce every second. It&#x27;d be amazing to have a Wayland version so we can enjoy it for many more years to come. Thanks to the developers of this fantastic piece of software.
esarbe超过 1 年前
Not an XFCE user (I&#x27;m comfortably satisfied with the simplicity that is Gnome) but I&#x27;m very happy to see XFCE&#x27;s concrete plans to move towards Wayland!
toastal超过 1 年前
The march to Wayland hopefully doesn’t complete until color management &amp; DisplayLink are merged. I had to go back to X11 because of missing features.
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igtztorrero超过 1 年前
XCFE is they best, please keep it simple.<p>I have used it for 7 years and I love it !<p>May God keep away animations from XCFE allways !
joseluis超过 1 年前
My favorite combination is Mint + Xfce + openbox as the window manager which leaves the CPU at 0% when not doing anything, and is very responsive and versatile. I had to setup separate dark themes for each one but now it looks good.<p>The only thing I don&#x27;t like is thunar freezing often when doing long blocking IO operations...
sprash超过 1 年前
The most important points:<p>- It is not clear yet which Xfce release will target a complete Xfce Wayland transition (or if such a transition will happen at all).<p>- We do not have the resources to maintain our own Wayland compositor<p>This should tell you everything. Since the Wayland ecosystem is extremely developer hostile it cements the KDE&#x2F;GNOME duopoly and eliminates the long tail. XFCE might maybe make the push to Wayland but after that that&#x27;s it. The rest of the tail is dead.
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mnmalst超过 1 年前
I hope this will be a slow transition but I am pretty sure it will since that&#x27;s how xfce usually works.<p>I switched to xfce not so long ago after almost 15 years of using KDE for that slow pace exactly. I had small problems and annoyances with KDE on nvidia for a long time but it got worse over time and reached a breaking point lately. Not even talking about Wayland.<p>Anyways, I am happy to have a rock solid and stable alternative like xfce.
throwaway914超过 1 年前
There are a couple reasons I can only back Gnome at this point, even though I loved&#x2F;miss XFCE.<p>Wayland multi-seat + idle-inhibition HDR + variable refresh Fractional scaling (I think XFCE has some&#x2F;all of this?)<p>We&#x27;re just playing catchup to MacOS for over a decade, and soon enough Linux will have to compete with 3d desktop environments (Apple Vision Pro interface). I think we&#x27;re almost to the point where the DE will be just a physics simulator (game engine) to help augment your reality.<p>Anyway, I still use XFCE on resource-limited hardware but Gnome has been the only option for a while because progress isn&#x27;t being made by other DEs on these critical things (color, refresh, alpha-composition, and some wayland protocols missing in wlroots).<p>I&#x27;m just glad Gnome isn&#x27;t the dependency hell it used to be, and has slimmed down. I really love what they&#x27;ve done with GJS but I believe there&#x27;s a competing KDE bindings project.<p>&lt;&#x2F;naive&gt;
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tuananh超过 1 年前
i run xfce combine with i3. pretty happ with the setup <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;c0Hzf7w" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;c0Hzf7w</a>
AdmiralAsshat超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m glad to see there&#x27;s a transition Roadmap in place. This is more than Cinnamon DE has at the moment.<p>You know you&#x27;re behind the curve when even Xfce is ahead of you.
aknfxb3m超过 1 年前
These days I can&#x27;t be bothered to deviate from the happy path anymore as I&#x27;ve already spent too much time in my life customizing my desktops.<p>I just use whatever GNOME offers and maybe 1-2 extensions. A few months ago I switched from Fedora to Debian 12 and barely noticed it. Thanks to GNOME and systemd, which I hate independently for various reasons.<p>I do feel like a sellout (but not getting paid).
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endorphine超过 1 年前
Tangentially, what does xfce (or any other DE for that matter) bring to the table if I already use i3 and have i3 status bar configured to fit my needs?<p>I mean, I do have NetworkManager, Blueman, Nautilus (file explorer), so why would I need a DE? I&#x27;m wondering if I&#x27;m missing something. (Honest question)
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rwmj超过 1 年前
Can Wayland run programs remotely yet?
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nava_nmr超过 1 年前
When I use AWS workspace in X11, The clipboard contents can be shared across host and guest VMs. In wayland, the clipboard is not syncing with AWS VM.<p>Is it the way like this? is there any workaround? Could someone please enlighten me?
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Lowstack超过 1 年前
You guys&#x27; work is highly appreciated!