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B612 Font Family

466 点作者 OliverGilan超过 1 年前

25 条评论

futureduck超过 1 年前
Strange, the background image of the site's header shows a very nice cockpit font indeed, but the actual B612 font is quite different - for instance zeros have no line through them. Though the oxygen indicator seems to use this font.
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zoidb超过 1 年前
Another font that has a similar aim is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Atkinson_Hyperlegible" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Atkinson_Hyperlegible</a> I find that it strikes a balance between aesthetics and legibility. Two differences I noticed immediately are the 0 and I characters which are much more difficult to distinguish with this font.
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nxobject超过 1 年前
It looks like two of its design goals were to retain visual consistency at veyr low dot-pich screens, to maximize readability of long passages in uppercase, and to accomplish this all of a full complement of symbols as well.<p>(<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;intactile.com&#x2F;projets&#x2F;ameliorer-la-lisibilite-et-la-securite-dans-les-cockpits-d-airbus&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;intactile.com&#x2F;projets&#x2F;ameliorer-la-lisibilite-et-la-...</a>)
pavlov超过 1 年前
The kerning looks distractingly bad. It’s easy to see in the word “complete”.<p>Short words like “in” and “all” end up looking like they’ve got completely different tracking, which in turn makes it harder to see word boundaries.<p>Probably a high-DPI screen in a well-lit room is simply the wrong environment to judge this font though, since it’s designed for low-DPI screens in a cockpit. But if you’re planning to use it outside of that environment, do test against other options.
dmccarty超过 1 年前
Ahhh fonts, where everyone gets an opinion and they&#x27;re all super important.<p>If you&#x27;re designing a font not just for legibility, but primarily for safety, then it seems <i>extremely</i> important that each glyph is uniquely distinguishable from other glyphs. Although this font has different characters for 1&#x2F;I&#x2F;l, at a quick glance an uppercase i could still be confused with a pipe (|), and 0 (zero) and O (capital o).[1] I&#x27;m sure there are more. So from that standpoint, this font fails for me for legibility&#x2F;safety.<p>Also a nitpick, but assuming Chrome is using 60pt B612 font for the title (..&#x2F;fonts&#x2F;B612-Regular.woff), the &quot;B&#x2F;6&#x2F;1&quot; glyphs are hideously formed (that &quot;1&quot; <i>puke</i>) and make me doubt the rest of the character set.<p>[1] e.g., the FAA has already addressed this with tail numbers: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;licenses_certificates&#x2F;aircraft_certification&#x2F;aircraft_registry&#x2F;forming_nnumber" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;licenses_certificates&#x2F;aircraft_certifica...</a>
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ohadron超过 1 年前
I couldn&#x27;t find any evidence for this font having particularly good legibility (such as a Rapid Serial Visual Presentation (RSVP) test), but my hunch is that it&#x27;s not that great.<p>It was probably optimized for low-res screens and specifically for monospace usage.<p>Kerning looks quite off in the Google fonts specimen (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fonts.google.com&#x2F;specimen&#x2F;B612?query=b612" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fonts.google.com&#x2F;specimen&#x2F;B612?query=b612</a>)
ChrisArchitect超过 1 年前
Posted every so often. A more descriptive post title including something about aircraft cockpits or something would be useful.<p>Bunch of previous discussion here from 2019:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18946601">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18946601</a>
chaosprint超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s very interesting that I picked this font for my live coding language: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quaverseries.web.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quaverseries.web.app&#x2F;</a><p>The main reason is that I need to use a syntax to represent a music sequencer such as ___65. B612 can separate two or more underscores perfectly.<p>For a long time, it&#x27;s always my first choice of coding font although I have no idea on its origin. I just feel it looks great when I browse all Google fonts. But it&#x27;s great to know the story behind it, and thanks for sharing.
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chrismorgan超过 1 年前
A question on tracking&#x2F;letter-spacing.<p>In my browser, I always use my own font choices (Firefox: Settings → Fonts → Advanced… → untick Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of your selections above), which makes me more sensitive to certain sorts of modifications: most significantly, I observe how unreasonably common it is for pages to change the whole document’s letter-spacing, normally to a positive value. (My firm opinion: you should <i>absolutely never</i> do this as a global thing, no exceptions.) I’m not certain if it might make more sense with some fonts than others, but the main thing is that I <i>notice</i> it.<p>So then, with this font, the main thing that immediately stood out to me is how wide its tracking is, so that I’d almost feel justified in adding `letter-spacing: -0.03em` (except that the shapes and some kerning pairs don’t work that way). Does it feel that way to others? And <i>is</i> there some kind of general trend in the direction of adding more space between letters?<p>(The font’s bold face, on the other hand, feels a mite cramped when in proximity to the regular weight, since it uses the same metrics. Also certain pairs are kerned much more tightly so that they feel out of place to me, e.g. Vi, DG (especially in bold). And as for the parentheses, I had to check that no, they hadn’t inserted a thin space inside the parentheses, the font really is just that weird.)
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dessimus超过 1 年前
Anyone else just learning about Université de Toulouse III? Did the first one sink into the swamp, followed by the second one burning down, falling over, then sinking into the swamp?
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brandonasuncion超过 1 年前
I really like the font aesthetically, and I&#x27;d use it as a coding font. However, the brackets and parentheses look too similar at smaller sizes, and arrows (ie. -&gt; and =&gt;) don&#x27;t quite line up properly.
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ShadowBanThis01超过 1 年前
Welp, it&#x27;s a failure because the capital &quot;i&quot; does not have crossbars... making it indistinguishable from a lower-case L.<p>Such a tiresome defect in one font after another.
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JoshTriplett超过 1 年前
I tried out the monospace font for terminal use, but some of the punctuation characters have terrible spacing, including : and ., so things like<p><pre><code> abc::xyz </code></pre> and<p><pre><code> some_expression .method() .method(); </code></pre> look awful.
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RomanPushkin超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m wondering if the image is real. Because there are slashed zeros and non-slashed on the same picture for some reason. Font seems to have non-slashed version.<p>I would assume in cockpit it&#x27;s better to always use slashed version to avoid confusion.
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Aardwolf超过 1 年前
0 and O look almost exactly the same in the font, is the distinction of these not important on flight screens?
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Xunjin超过 1 年前
This font is so spectacular, for some reason unknown yet to me, numerous fonts give me headaches&#x2F;“tired eyes” when I used it the first time was a blessing I could perceive the difference in a week. A shame that, depending on the application, they look hideous.
devit超过 1 年前
Seems really bad to me.<p>There&#x27;s a lot of distracting glitches like the K and Q having small gaps where strokes come together, and even glyphs like the N, M, Y and Z have weird little gaps at the joints, the F and B have a bizarre overhang at the upper horizontal stroke, the 1 and 6 have a weird cut in their strokes.<p>There are lots of weird confusing choices like the parenthesis being a round rect instead of a bow shape, the @ having a &quot;complex a&quot; inside, the 3 and 5 using a &quot;cute&quot; diagonal layout instead of the normal &quot;rounded-and-rect layout&quot;.<p>Seems horrible for something that should be as simple as possible. The default system UI fonts like DejaVu Sans, Segoe UI, Roboto, etc. are far better.
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deknuv超过 1 年前
For those who wish for a font family to have distinguishable capital &quot;eye&quot; from lowercase &quot;ell&quot;, the following is a recommended test: how does the font render &quot;Illegal1=O0&quot;
rbanffy超过 1 年前
I was looking into the source and was very confused until I found the UFO glif files and the build.sh script. It looks like the proprietary FontLab format is the &quot;source&quot; and the UFO files are generated from that and TTF files generated from the VFDs are committed into the repo.<p>BTW, I&#x27;m used to FontForge (which is not the most amenable to collaborative work) and would love to know what other font designers use and what would be a good collaborative workflow for open source fonts.
userbinator超过 1 年前
Unfortunately the name has been collided into by several other, more popular and newer, things since its creation. However, 46610 is still available as a font name.
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chapterjason超过 1 年前
Pretty confusing, the banner image shows zeros with the dash to distinguish them from O&#x27;s, in the example of the page there aren&#x27;t any dashes.
tangwwwei超过 1 年前
previously <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18946601">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18946601</a>
stracer超过 1 年前
The best legible monotype font for computer screens I know of is M+ 1m regular.<p>Example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dafontfree.net&#x2F;data&#x2F;41&#x2F;m&#x2F;94730&#x2F;map&#x2F;0-charmap-m-1m-regular.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dafontfree.net&#x2F;data&#x2F;41&#x2F;m&#x2F;94730&#x2F;map&#x2F;0-charmap-m-1...</a>
fortran77超过 1 年前
I’m surprised the zero isn’t dotted or slashed for airplane cockpit applications
naillo超过 1 年前
I wonder when we&#x27;ll consider fonts as a &#x27;solved&#x27; problem. I keep seeing designers making more of them, I guess it&#x27;s just a tradition and hobby at this point
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