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Doing vs Telling

87 点作者 iSimone大约 13 年前

10 条评论

jamesjyu大约 13 年前
Ah, self-promotion: a perennial HN topic. What I've seen is that there is a rift between the typical hacker and self-promotion.<p>As with most things, it's about balance, which Sacha hits upon. Success means that you need to self-promote, but at the right times with the right stuff to back it up. I can't tell you how many times I've talked to hackers/developers who are so vehemently against self-promotion to the point of blindness, and then, in the same breath, complain that other people who are less talented are getting too much attention by self-promoting.<p>I come from the school of thought that you need to be ultra-prepared and totally understand something and perfect it before even thinking about self-promotion. And, I assume, a lot of other hackers have this same mentality.<p>But, I realized that sometimes, you just need to ship and talk about what you're doing. It'll make you feel better, and also propel you to ship even more stuff. And in this way, self-promotion isn't only to tell other people that you're doing stuff, but it's also to get feedback and improve yourself. One cannot make great work in 100% isolation.<p>What a lot of hackers fail to realize is that by making something work and communicating to other people about it, you're already in the top percentile of people. It's OK to talk about it! Heck, it's also OK to promote it on HN and all the other usual channels. People will appreciate you sharing it. And the haters? Well, they'll always be there, even if you wait to perfect it. :)<p>So, if your head is swirling with thoughts that you may be too self-promotional, you probably aren't. Just share it.<p>PS. Dustin Curtis should pursue a career in marketing. Curating a network of quality bloggers would be a great move for him. He knows how to promote, design, and curate very well.
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benohear大约 13 年前
Actually fame followed by action is a fairly well trodden route. Jeff Atwood and 37Signals come to mind straight away.<p>And to some extent Paul Graham. Granted, he successfully sold a startup during the dotcom years, but it's only with YCombinator that his achievements matched his essays.
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Swizec大约 13 年前
The good old luck coefficient argument - the amount of luck you have is the area under a graph where Y is "how many people know about it" and X is "what you do".<p>For some reason I can't find the specific blog talking about this right now, but it's a fairly straightforward logical concept.
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sgdesign大约 13 年前
I know it looks like it, but I promise this is not an attempt at kissing Dustin Curtis' ass so he lets me in the Svtble network…
c1sc0大约 13 年前
Agreed that both doing and telling are important. When done well, both can become an art-form. One thing I find myself struggling with all the time is switching between these two modes of thought. I find that the switching cost to go from 'doing' to 'telling' is even higher than flipping from 'doing A' to 'doing B'.
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olalonde大约 13 年前
I agree that both doing and telling are important, but I disagree they are equally important. In addition, I don't think that lack of self-promotion is such a widespread phenomenon that it warrants a blog post to raise awareness of the problem.
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snitko大约 13 年前
The amount of links per line of text in this article is really distracting.
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tablet大约 13 年前
Do &#62; tell<p>Write &#62; read<p>Think &#62; speak<p>Left side matters more
huggyface大约 13 年前
<i>Whether we like it or not, the truth of the matter is that telling is just as important as doing.</i><p>I'm a little unsure whether you mean "doing and then telling", or "telling in lieu of doing". It's confusing because the context is Curtis sort of unveiling some sort of blogging platform.<p>If the latter, it is notable that telling <i>drowns out</i> doing. Telling is a very poor substitute for doing anything, and pundits like Curtis, Gruber, that Microsoft-loving guy who I can't remember, Jeff Atwood...these guys have as little significance -- for their telling -- as a sports commentator who insists that the Yankees are the best. That's great, speak to your community and all, but utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things.<p>The trick is in trying to pivot your success building, essentially, followers, into success doing, which Atwood did to great success, and Curtis is now trying (Gruber is still stuck trying to pitch t-shirts). Good for Dustin to make that change, however the very valid comment that many have, as quoted in the article, is "why should this get hype?". Why should we assume that Curtis has any insight or particular value building a blogging platform just because he got a tonne of links for a highly suspect defense of 3.5" smartphone screens.
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funkah大约 13 年前
Nice little shot at Gruber in there. Classy
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