Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

Remote is ok if your personality doesn't mesh with an office. And you are the CEO. This should do wonders for feeling of "ohana" at salesforce.

I am now back to a developer role, rather than being a manager (by my own choosing). I am much more productive (and actually communicate more with my colleagues (!)) when I work from home. Luckily my terms allow me to choose where I work from when by my-self.

Recently someone posted an office etiquette post on our intranet, citing all you should do or avoid so that your coworkers can work and focus comfortably.<p>The person posting it probably though it was helpful, but it was just showing how an hell of a place offices have become since they went the open space route.

Some in my company argue that remote is the way to go but when it comes to traveling to another office on another continent, it suddenly becomes so important to meet colleagues in person and they stay here for weeks or months, all while making weekend hops to vacation destinations.

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This is quite an editorialized title... it makes the CEO look like they have an extreme viewpoint, but in reality it sounded like the CEO had a pretty based and nuanced take: never enforce remote, and recognize that different kinds of work require more in office than others.<p>The only thing that I disagreed with was the &quot;we don&#x27;t want to lose our stars&quot; mentality. Your mentality should not be about pushing people as far as you can until you have retention problems. Rather, it should be to inform people and provide them with opportunities to be productive in whatever way they prefer, and cut them lose if their output is not sufficient. Make decisions by outputs - not inputs.

in my experience all middle management people that wants everyone to go back to the offices are useless pieces of crap.

Eh, sounds like the title is possibly either poor communication or a comment cherry-picked for the purpose of being provocative.<p>He seems to have some nuance and flexibility on the issue that some people lack.

Just remember ... the CEO role of a major company is radically different than any other job.<p>What Marc calls &quot;work&quot;, you and I can&#x27;t relate too.<p>He&#x27;s spending a disporportionate amount of time talking to investors, talking to customers, talking to his Board.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if he&#x27;s traveling 100 business days a year as a result.<p>Which if you&#x27;re not at home because you&#x27;re traveling for work, or if you are at home but just talking phone calls - that&#x27;s a very different type of &quot;working remote&quot;.<p>===<p>EDIT: why the downvotes? Please comment if you disagree with something I said so that we can have a health discourse.

If you have a job where you&#x27;re constantly travelling (for sales calls, customer meetings, relationship building, etc.), then, yeah, having to report to an office when you&#x27;re back at home base doesn&#x27;t make any sense.<p>I have a job like this (presales; previously consulting). I&#x27;m usually on the road&#x2F;in the air every week and, COVID aside, have been for the last seven years. An office hasn&#x27;t made sense for me in a long time.<p>However, the co-CEO saying this just after pushing an RTO mandate feels really out of place. Many will definitely not get the nuance.

Stewart Butterfield must be having a very heavy celebratory drink this evening, likely Suntory.