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Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan’s War on San Francisco Politics Has Only Just Begun

67 点作者 programd超过 1 年前

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pwarner超过 1 年前
I'm not following the details of this closely, but it sounds like he's a Democrat criticizing Democrats in SF for going to far left. Often these critiques from within the party are the best. There are lots of voices on the Republican side who see that party shifting too far right. I find those voices trying to pull to the center the most useful from both sides.
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xrd超过 1 年前
This article feels like it displays a more balanced Tan than I see in the other coverage of him, or the rage-filled responses to his tweets. I&#x27;m glad to understand more of the context.<p>And, I&#x27;m left feeling like there are so many &quot;smart&quot; people who feel that the best way to fix things is to rage on Twitter. Tan isn&#x27;t doing just that: he is donating money, and fundraising, and getting involved in conversations. Why not run for office? The people he is criticizing are putting their asses on the line, and he isn&#x27;t really risking much other than his reputation.
skmurphy超过 1 年前
“Most people want certainty. They want to feel comfortable. And then the true founders, they want to find chaos, and they want to turn chaos into order.” Garry Tan<p>I thought this quote summarized an important insight for founders. It echoes a model from Amar Bhide&#x27;s &quot;Origin and Evolution of New Business&quot; that startups have to hunt for situations where the probability of high value cash flows is uncertain because the situations with low uncertainty will be dominated by existing firms who can make substantially larger investments of money and effort.
kr0bat超过 1 年前
A politcal landscape of career politicians and undignified, multi-millionare ideologues may be better than a landscape of just career politicians; I&#x27;m not sure if it&#x27;s <i>much</i> better, however.
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hn_throwaway_99超过 1 年前
Can we please stop mistaking &quot;Twitter wars&quot; for what most people care about in real life? It&#x27;s normally always an exercise in taking some of the most extreme views, on both sides, so that you can then paint your &quot;enemies&quot; with the most caricature-ist brush imaginable.
ilamont超过 1 年前
Serious question from someone who doesn&#x27;t live in California or follow local politics there: Has Tan or any other well-off tech leader sharing similar visions&#x2F;values run for supervisor or mayor? I see that Conway et al poured donations into the local party apparatus in the past (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfexaminer.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;ron-conway-big-tech-drop-thousands-into-sleepy-sf-election&#x2F;article_00342725-0356-5f79-a4c4-9e4a025a5d35.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfexaminer.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;ron-conway-big-tech-drop-tho...</a>) but wouldn&#x27;t their goals be more effectively served from an elected position of power, as opposed to back-room lobbying and social media attacks?
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RC_ITR超过 1 年前
My biggest criticism of this and most of the discourse you see on here is <i>everything</i> always has to be left vs. right.<p>Do you think people shouldn’t go to jail for being homeless? Ok left extremist.<p>Do you feel uncomfortable with outdoor drug use? Ok right extremist.<p>So as a result, you get people arguing about what a centrist policy is rather than just evaluating the policy for what it is.<p>Would SF be better if we had a large indoor space for safe drug use (like the armory)? Maybe maybe not - but let’s talk about that rather than dividing ourselves into teams based on imagined identity.
TheCaptain4815超过 1 年前
I wonder what it would take for folks like that to vote GOP. Given the issues he brings up being so extreme, that still isn&#x27;t enough?
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gnicholas超过 1 年前
&gt; <i>education activists who want to change math curriculum in public schools</i><p>Is this a reference to SFUSD&#x27;s experiment to not allow any student to take algebra 1 before 9th grade? If so, it&#x27;s not so much about changing curriculum, but preventing students from learning.
ipnon超过 1 年前
The “tech bro” angle of critique is getting stale, although I understand the reasoning. People are fine with those who solve problems. It is the people who modify the set of problems they must deal with that upsets them, even if the problem set is net smaller.
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friend_and_foe超过 1 年前
Yet another &quot;news&quot; article about tweets. God it&#x27;s tiring.
femiagbabiaka超过 1 年前
Paper funded by one VC publishes glowing writeup on another VC, talking about how everyone else is just getting it wrong and we all need to get into.. effective accelerationism. (What is it about tech and the word effective?)<p>We promise, say VC&#x27;s, that if you just get rid of one more $PERSON_GARRY_TAN_DOESNT_LIKE, everything will magically get better, despite no fruit coming from that tree so far.<p>I, the millionaire tech investor, am the real scrappy working class person, not like those supervisors, I really care about you. Also go SFPD.
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khazhoux超过 1 年前
What is a list of the policies of the Board of Supervisors, and now Dean Preston in particular, which people find have been destructive to SF?<p>There&#x27;s endless articles about how they&#x27;ve allowed criminality, they&#x27;re too progressive, and so on, but I&#x27;ve had a tough time finding the actual specific policies that they&#x27;ve voted for.
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officialchicken超过 1 年前
LOL, an article about some posts where the author has confused Xitter slactivism as a proxy for actual involvement devoid of any actual policy. It&#x27;s all just a morass of criticism.
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tayo42超过 1 年前
I liked living in sf when I was there. One nice thing about moving is not having to feel like I care about all these little political battles people get outraged about. Something about that city attracts the most toxic and loud people like this. Every city has problems, but there is a lot of media and internet outrage about sf.
tikkun超过 1 年前
&gt; Over the course of two hours, the CEO of startup incubator Y Combinator personally attacks or retweets criticism of “extremist judges,” whom he accuses of emboldening criminals with the help of local media; any supervisor who dares to oppose bonuses to hire more cops; Nancy Pelosi and lawmakers concerned about the safety of autonomous vehicles; education activists who want to change math curriculum in public schools; venture capitalists who are “evil” to startup founders; “decels” who want to pump the brakes on technological progress; Apple’s monopoly on apps; YouTube censors; and last, but certainly not least, NIMBYs.<p>I once learned a lot about helping people with alcohol addition for a family friend. A few of the things I learned were: 1) labeling the person as an alcoholic will make them drink more 2) yelling at them and forcing them to defend themselves will make them drink more 3) any kind of aggressive intervention will make them drink more.<p>Unfortunately, attacking people generally serves to make them feel defensive and want to defend themselves. When we defend ourselves, that generally makes us dig in further.<p>I&#x27;ll note that I hope that SF shifts in the direction of Garry&#x27;s vision, and I&#x27;m in favor of the end outcome.<p>If Garry&#x27;s goal is attention (&quot;if you want to get an audience, start a fight&quot;) then attacks are a good method. If his goal is to change minds, I&#x27;d note that he may be more successful if he picks up a few books on helping people who have addictions, and borrows some of the methods from them (in short: make them first feel understood by you, and understand their hesitations and what makes them tick).<p>He could kind of treat it like he&#x27;s doing customer development for a startup. Find people who&#x27;ve gone from one side to the other, talk to them about their journey, and so on.<p>The main point I&#x27;m hoping to emphasize is that attacking the other side like this to win may result in victory, but it won&#x27;t result in peace.
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paxys超过 1 年前
Is the author really trying to make the case that Garry Tan in the second most influential person in SF politics after Mayor London Breed? Give me a break. People really need to get off Twitter and live life in the real world once in a while. This is nothing more than a puff piece desperately trying to paint Tan as a new Elon Musk. He may have thrown money at a few candidates, but on the streets of SF he is a nobody, and his Tweetstorms don&#x27;t really amount to political activism (at least not the effective kind).
ivraatiems超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s embarrassing to watch a CEO of anything fire off what they think are &#x27;pithy&#x27; and &#x27;clever&#x27; tweets. It&#x27;s pathetic when Musk does it and it&#x27;s no better here.<p>Doesn&#x27;t he have something better to do with his time as the CEO of YCombinator?<p>Edit: To be clear, I don&#x27;t care about the content of the tweets, I&#x27;m not taking a position on Tan&#x27;s politics. I just can&#x27;t fathom him spending time on this stuff.
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mberning超过 1 年前
The coin of the realm. Nice Hellraiser reference. Very apt allusion to the state of San Francisco.
aaomidi超过 1 年前
Everytime I see a bil&#x2F;millionaire techy complain about &quot;far left&quot; politics I&#x27;m always like, my dude do you know what far left actually means?<p>Far left would mean you literally wouldn&#x27;t exist. SF&#x27;s problem is hyper-liberalism, not &quot;far left&quot;. All of the actions being taken are band aids, while also maintaining the extreme levels on inequality that has put the city in the state that it is in.<p>Reducing policing and criminalization is always a good thing, but for it to be successful it has to be followed up with all the other (argubly much harder) tasks. Rent is skyrocketing, NIMBYism is alive and well, lack of social and housing support is still there. The war on drugs is alive and well.<p>SF can&#x27;t decide if it wants to care about the 99% or the 1%. And until it makes that decision, it&#x27;s going to continue being shit.<p>Also, a single (rich) city is not going to be able to counter the hyper-capitalist mentality of the country. These changes need to come from every level of government &amp; not just a city.
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samr71超过 1 年前
Godspeed you, Garry Tan!<p>May the painted ladies be demolished and replaced with supertall skyscrapers jam-packed with cheap apartments, maker spaces, and startup incubators!<p>(I say this with no sarcasm. SF should look like Manhattan; allow a few historic houses but most gotta go.)
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