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The Greening of Milan: Porta Nuova and Vertical Forest

72 点作者 dnetesn超过 1 年前

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smohnot超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve been there a few times &amp; spoken to people who live there. It&#x27;s beautiful but requires a LOT of maintenance. There are 20,000 bushes and 800 trees. Just maintaining the gardens costs $200,000 per month! There are 113 units, so maintenance itself comes to $1,800 per month per unit.<p>It&#x27;s a luxury building in a luxury area.
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ics超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve walked past these buildings and they look <i>nice</i>, but I was&#x2F;am not so optimistic about the maintenance required when the buildings are 20, 30+ years old. From the article:<p>&gt; Periodically, a group of mountaineering arborists lowers themselves from the roofs of the two towers to tend to the plants, checking their health, and pruning or replacing them as needed.<p>Are these <i>mountaineering arborists</i> volunteering for the fun of it? Paid by the building management? Residents? If volunteers, it sounds like a fun activity but quite unsustainable for more than a handful of buildings. If paid (now or in the future), I&#x27;m quite curious what the average cost is and what the contingencies are for a lapse in maintenance due to change of ownership, rising cost leading to longer maintenance interval, etc. Maintaining the greenery is one aspect, but so is maintaining the concrete holding it up.<p>Despite my lack of optimism I do find it interesting to explore. Sometimes a few... mildly bourgeois... early demonstrations do provide the inspiration and requisite practical experience to get things rolling.
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kome超过 1 年前
&quot;One of the cities leading the way in embracing sustainability and environmentally friendly urban design is Milan&quot;<p>Milan is one of the most polluted cities of the western world (looking at the data[1]) and a literal death trap for cyclists and pedestrians. The numbers of car is out of control.<p>So... there is a long way to go to make it sustainable and environmentally friendly. Some token building for multi-millionaires doesn&#x27;t really help, sorry.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eea.europa.eu&#x2F;themes&#x2F;air&#x2F;urban-air-quality&#x2F;european-city-air-quality-viewer" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eea.europa.eu&#x2F;themes&#x2F;air&#x2F;urban-air-quality&#x2F;europ...</a>
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idiocratic超过 1 年前
It is nice, but nobody except celebrities and super rich people can afford any of these apartments. It’s easy to create nice things for extremely rich people, the real challenge in Milan is to provide aesthetically pleasing and environmentally sustainable buildings and neighbourhoods for the 99%.
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erulabs超过 1 年前
It’s funny because (anecdotally based on visiting Milan once) I’ve come to use Milan as an example of a city made almost entirely of rock and stone, with virtually zero green anywhere to be seen.<p>Granted, I was there for one week, but it was markedly different from any other large European city I’ve been to. I hope they install a few trees at street level and along the canal as well!
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GaggiX超过 1 年前
I went recently to &quot;Tre Torri&quot; and I was amazed by how much vegetation there was among the residences, I think they did a nice job
lend000超过 1 年前
Practical considerations aside, it intuitively seems like making green covered skyscrapers like this can actually increase the primary productivity of a given ground area.<p>In a typical dense forest, plants at the top of the canopy are probably not efficiently using all of the light they absorb, and much is lost to branches. Given how many plants can thrive without any direct sunlight, just having sunlight for half the day from an angle (a plant on one of the balconies) is probably forcing more efficiency and growth out of the plant relative to the amount of light energy it receives.<p>I suppose if the ground was covered in skyscrapers of comparable height, the effect would be more or less neutralized by the shade from neighboring buildings.
bevan超过 1 年前
This is awesome. Living around nature is not just pretty, but healthy for us and good for our focus &#x2F; productivity &#x2F; mood &#x2F; fitness &#x2F; recovery &#x2F; general well-being.<p>For a look into the benefits of living near green space (ie nature contact):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.internationaljournalofwellbeing.org&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;ijow&#x2F;article&#x2F;view&#x2F;449&#x2F;509" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.internationaljournalofwellbeing.org&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;ij...</a><p>Indoor plants also have salutary and performance effects.
avereveard超过 1 年前
Those neighbourhood are pedestrian nightmares, with no establishment at ground level, nothing to stop by, they are absolutely alienating to walk through.
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