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Vespa.ai is spinning out of Yahoo as a separate company

351 点作者 bratao超过 1 年前

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fzliu超过 1 年前
I was at Yahoo almost a decade ago, when vector search within Vespa was first being rolled out in production use cases. It was already serving similarity search requests for Flickr back then.<p>Even though I&#x27;m with Zilliz&#x2F;Milvus now, I wholeheartedly support and recommend folks check out and try Vespa. Congrats to the Vespa team!<p>EDIT: For folks on Twitter, you should follow Jo (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;jobergum" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;jobergum</a>) from Vespa if you aren&#x27;t already. Great combo of technical content, hot takes, and vector database memes!
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fsckboy超过 1 年前
&gt;<i>Yahoo will own a stake in the new company and will be one of Vespa’s biggest customers for a long time to come.</i><p>what&#x27;s usually going on in scenarios like this is either: the subsidiary is in growth mode and needs access to public capital markets to raise large amounts for building infrastructure (and sharing the expenses with others) to compete, or what has been built is going into profitability mode and the profits are better protected&#x2F;hoarded in a private company where disclosure requirements are not onerous. If this move represents the former, expect the latter in a few years, is why yahoo would maintain a large stake.<p>(I&#x27;m just pointing this out because there are frequently underlying reasons that have nothing to do with the type of stuff that&#x27;s in the press release, &quot;successful venture, income&#x2F;exit event&quot; etc.)
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simonw超过 1 年前
Vespa has been around for a LONG time. When I worked at Yahoo back in 2005-2007 the Flickr team were using it to scale Flickr - they were integrating it in order to serve things like public tag pages, to take the load off their MySQL cluster.<p>I remember understanding it as the internal equivalent to something like Solr, although actually it predated it - looks like the first public Solr open source release (coming out of CNET) was January 2006.
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cmcollier超过 1 年前
This is fun to see, and for a seriously deserving team!<p>Vespa really is an impressive platform. I&#x27;ve been working with search platforms for a while, starting with FAST Instream, MarkLogic, Elastic, Weaviate, and now Vespa. As others have noted, Vespa has a deep technical lineage. You can see a lot of the hard earned lessons in the design, as well as improvements in the flaws of the spiritual predecessors (FAST et. al).<p>The history alone makes the project interesting. But then, in the last couple of years (or maybe earlier), they started introducing all the fundamentals for supporting deep integration of tensors and a custom HNSW implementation. Whether accident or planning, this was a nice strategic move. They were leagues ahead, just in time for the popularization of learned embeddings.<p>Now they have the best combination of traditional lexical search, semantic search with embeddings, and the combination of the two in hybrid search. That&#x27;s without even getting to all the functionality in the multi-phase ranking, hosted ML models, and document processing engine.<p>Obviously I&#x27;m biased (we use Vespa at work for enterprise search products), but I can&#x27;t recommend this engine&#x2F;platform enough.<p>Congrats again to the team!
spullara超过 1 年前
They have absolutely the best take on embedding search + normal faceted search. Here is a blog post about how it works:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.vespa.ai&#x2F;vespa-hybrid-billion-scale-vector-search&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.vespa.ai&#x2F;vespa-hybrid-billion-scale-vector-sear...</a>
neilk超过 1 年前
Vespa was actually very cool at the time as a document-oriented search engine, occupying the same niche as Solr and elaborations of that like ElasticSearch. But I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s competitive today.<p>This blog post says it&#x27;s &quot;developed by Yahoo&quot; which is I guess true. But it was originally an acquisition, largely developed by a team in Norway, and apparently most Vespa development still happens there.
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boredumb超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve always wanted a self driving scooter.
daveevad超过 1 年前
Anyone able to share the definitive history of the polar bears that visited the office?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;commons&#x2F;e&#x2F;e6&#x2F;Polar_Bears_in_Trondheim.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;commons&#x2F;e&#x2F;e6&#x2F;Polar_Be...</a>
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peterstjohn超过 1 年前
+1 to everybody that mentioned that Vespa has great vector support _and_ lexical filtering. And you likely will end up needing both.<p>Don&#x27;t sleep on some of its newer features like multi-vector document fields, either…
ram_rar超过 1 年前
Wow, this brings back soo many old memories of mine @ Yahoo! . Almost a decade ago, vespa inside Yahoo was way ahead of its time. Glad, it finally spun out. I wonder how does this compare with other vector Dbs like pinecone, chroma...
sph超过 1 年前
Piaggio is not gonna be happy that someone has called their company Vespa.
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cfors超过 1 年前
Can anybody speak to how Vespa compares to some other Vector Database solutions? Seems like there&#x27;s so many options today
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joshu超过 1 年前
vespa tech was one of the big reasons yahoo was attractive as an acquirer for del.icio.us. unfortunately they promptly withheld it afterwards.
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bborud超过 1 年前
This is really exciting news!<p>What is perhaps a bit unusual is that the Vespa team has existed for a very long time. Even before the project got its name (2004&#x2F;2005?). If memory serves it will be 20 years this year or next year since the first bits of what became the Vespa platform were developed. Some of the people working there have worked together since 1998-1999.<p>I think much of the reason for the longevity of the team is that it was kept somewhat separate from the rest of Yahoo! so they could maintain focus.
vinaypai超过 1 年前
TIL: Yahoo still exists in 2023
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loondri超过 1 年前
I think Vespa&#x27;s growth and innovation were driven by Yahoo&#x27;s resources and infrastructure. Now as a separate entity, it might struggle to maintain the same pace of development and innovation without the backing of a tech giant like Yahoo.
happytiger超过 1 年前
This is fabulous and I’m very excited to see where this project goes.<p>It definitely has legs and if the team understands just how enormous the potential could be, annd especially why they <i>could</i> disrupt, I’m even more eager to see what they do.
david_shi超过 1 年前
Has anyone tried using the GPU acceleration features? Curious if it works well with speeding up vector search.
SpaceNoodled超过 1 年前
So what exactly does Yahoo do these days?
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gyehuda超过 1 年前
Very excited to see this. I used to work at Yahoo. This is a serious team with serious tech.
zitterbewegung超过 1 年前
What hasn’t spun out of Yahoo?
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andrewstuart超过 1 年前
I forgot Yahoo exists.<p>The biggest thing I recall about Yahoo is Jerry Yang vetoing sales to Microsoft for $35B on principle because he didn&#x27;t like Microsoft.<p>Is that what actually happened or is that a false memory?
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agloe_dreams超过 1 年前
What a weird name for a product. Even they need to tell you which Vespa they are.<p>Like, when naming things...maybe not use a name that people use to define a category. (AKA: A Vespa is to Scooters as a PostIt is to sticky notes)
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