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YouTube's crackdown on ad blockers intensifies

58 点作者 MilnerRoute超过 1 年前

26 条评论

scarygliders超过 1 年前
Adblockers should get more devious then.<p>I&#x27;ve not looked into exactly how adblockers work, but I presume they just don&#x27;t allow advert content through to be rendered by the browser - they block the html&#x2F;css&#x2F;js from loading in the page - and that&#x27;s how places like Youtube and other sites can detect one is using an adblocker.<p>If I were going to write an adblocker, I&#x27;d make it such that it pretends to load and play&#x2F;display the adverts, meanwhile allowing the video which the user intends to watch through. The adblocker basically says somehow that &quot;yup! I&#x27;m the browser and your advert was definitely rendered. Honest, guv&#x27;nor!&quot;<p>Something like that. (I fully recognize that I may be talking out of my ass if my assumptions above are incorrect.)
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geijoenr超过 1 年前
From my point of view YouTube with Adds is unbearable. And I don&#x27;t feel the subscription service is offering as much value as any other streaming platform.<p>If it was a bit cheaper I would may be consider it, but for my specific use case (just watch random videos and some channels) at this price is just not worth it and I will just stop using the platform.
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iteratethis超过 1 年前
I had been using Youtube exclusively from a browser with uBlock Origin and only learned about its ads persistence when we finally upgraded our ancient TV. I was in shock, the service is close to unusable with ads.<p>At the same time, the reality check is that ads continue to be the way to monetize the masses as no other model works at this scale of users.<p>So do expect it to get worse. By means of IP, the Web Integrity API, whether you&#x27;ve opted-in to this new &quot;Ad topics&quot; thing in Chrome...the future direction is to discriminate clients. You will see the ad or not see the service.<p>The only resistance is to just watch less or not at all.
blakesterz超过 1 年前
I do understand this push, and honestly I&#x27;m surprised it took them this long.<p>I&#x27;d love to know how many people end up subscribing vs allowing ads vs reducing views drastically vs just never using YouTube again.<p>I assume this will bite me soon, and I think I&#x27;ll be in the &quot;reducing views drastically&quot; because there&#x27;s very little I watch on YouTube that I&#x27;d want to sit through any ads for.
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stas2k超过 1 年前
I had to resort to my own Invidious instance plus Sponsorblock.<p>Its looks is very much like OG Youtube and it is unusually fast: no overdone JS. You can also sync it up to Clipious on the phone and get a clean, bloat free Youtube experience without ads or slow page loads.
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ArtemZ超过 1 年前
I started using Ncdownloader (which works on top of yt2k) extension for my Nextcloud installation, so now I just copy paste video url and get either an MP4 or mp3 in my cloud where I don&#x27;t worry about ads.<p>I think their argument that they do this to &quot;ensure that its content creators are compensated for their work&quot; is not genuine given their practice to de-monetize the same content creators with no explanation or, apparently, for their political views. For example, California Insider youtube channel was demonitized and I suspect that this is because Google was unhappy with the narrative.
yvoschaap超过 1 年前
My domain was blocked from serving Adsense (for some a pedantic reason). Fortunate result, if I watch youtube loaded from their own embed script but hosted from my domain there are never ads!
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vidanay超过 1 年前
Make the goddamn YT Premium &quot;family&quot; plan work with Google Workspaces and I&#x27;ll sign my whole family up today.
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geod_of_ix超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ublockorigin.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ublockorigin.com&#x2F;</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sponsor.ajay.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sponsor.ajay.app&#x2F;</a>
lm28469超过 1 年前
Between that and the push for brainless &quot;shorts&quot; I already reduced my use by a good 50%<p>They might finally cure my addictions
oldbbsnickname超过 1 年前
Around 2012, YT&#x27;s shittiness level reached OTA TV levels and that&#x27;s when I peaced out.<p>My rule: it&#x27;s not worth using YT, TikTok, or any other corporate behemoth with your attention as their product. So if a form of media runs ads, I&#x27;m out.<p>There&#x27;s nothing particularly defensible about YT&#x27;s readily commodifiable service and indefensible business model except the power law distribution of a monopoly. YT&#x27;s closest competitor&#x2F;alternative was once Vimeo. The problem was their founders made a critical error of taking venture funding and, later, going public, leading to poor decisions driven by the board that gradually wrecked it.<p>YT is allowed by the market to be shitty because there is no viable competitor in their space. The biggest touted contenders aren&#x27;t much of a threat: TikTok started as a copy of Vine, so it&#x27;s unsuitable for substantive, long-form content. Instagram is TikTok plus pictures. Twitch is pigeonholed for specific uses: gamers and ear-licking models. Reddit Live isn&#x27;t for persistent, on-demand content hosting. There isn&#x27;t much else except tiny startups, some of which may well be better for both viewers and creators.<p>To be a YT competitor I&#x27;d want to use: Charge content creators and viewers a modest subscription fee so they don&#x27;t have to have ads AND have engagement and monetization tools for the creators. Don&#x27;t spam me with ads for viral cat videos.
colpabar超过 1 年前
Why hasn&#x27;t this happened to me yet? I watch youtube videos ALL the time and I have never once been prompted to turn off ublock. The only time I see ads is on my phone.
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Kye超过 1 年前
My Ask HN from 2020: &quot;Are YouTube ads getting worse?&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23769291">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23769291</a><p>I didn&#x27;t always block ads on YouTube, but they pushed me to it. And apparently enough people for them to do this. There still isn&#x27;t enough on there to make it worth subscribing for me. ~$170&#x2F;year is not a small amount of money.
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ChickeNES超过 1 年前
Am I the only one who watches enough YouTube content that I just pay for Premium without question?
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cactusplant7374超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m worried that if I block adds and get caught they will eventually sanction my other Google accounts (i.e. Gmail and Drive). I&#x27;m thinking about adding YouTube to &#x2F;etc&#x2F;hosts and only browsing through Tor.
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bigfryo超过 1 年前
The built-in ad blocker on Brave browser seems to work fine
xela79超过 1 年前
why do they think can decide what content you want to be downloaded through your internet connection and displayed on your devices? once the bits &amp; bytes enter my network, you&#x27;re free to do with them what you want, they have no say in what is done with that data. If it&#x27;s filtered, that is not their decision to make
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Etrnl_President超过 1 年前
Give me what I want, and I will gladly pay:<p>Truly anonymous unpersonalized YouTube under the old algorithm from the early 2000s.<p>No tracking, no censorship, no manipulation, no boosted videos…<p>Truly anonymous payment options.<p>Google-free viewing.<p>But you make most of your money by tracking all that, and keeping me from finding the videos I actually want to watch, so who am I kidding.
xnx超过 1 年前
The ad vs. adblocking wars will continue to escalate closer and closer to the &quot;analog hole&quot;. Facebook and Apple are both desperate to be the last intermediary between your senses and the world via vr&#x2F;augmented reality.
MattGaiser超过 1 年前
Is there a reason they don’t just add the ads directly into the video?
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renegat0x0超过 1 年前
Platforms like subscriptions not only because of money. YouTube does know a lot about users, but it can be sure that you are likely not a bot if you have an account.
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xnx超过 1 年前
This crackdown is also in preparation for moving podcasts into YouTube where ads can be injected into them more readily than in the Google Podcasts app.
justapassenger超过 1 年前
I understand people who block ads on the sites where you have no option to pay to remove them, especially if they&#x27;re intrusive and you get served tons of random JS and popups everywhere you click.<p>But here - you can pay. And if you think it&#x27;s too much and doesn&#x27;t reflect value it brings - well that&#x27;s your choice, but its not a charity and they can (and should IMO) fight with ad blocking.<p>Disclaimer - I pay for YT family plan that I share with my wife and it&#x27;s most useful subscription we have - YT is our main source of media consumption.
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jjbinx007超过 1 年前
If only they would crack down on all the scam ads. I still get deepfake ads purporting to show Elon Musk and Martin Lewis promoting crypto and the like.<p>No amount of reporting by me and even reporting on by mainstream media seems to make a difference.
g232089超过 1 年前
The use of the word &quot;allowlisted&quot; makes me want to block ads harder.
brink超过 1 年前
Stop censoring so hard, bring back the dislike button, and I&#x27;ll pay.<p>Specifically: valid criticisms of Islam, vaccine mandates, the 2020 lockdowns, the LGBTQIA+ group, and the CCP are&#x2F;were aggressively censored. I&#x27;m not really a fan of Russel Brand either, but demonetizing him without proof is also an area of concern.
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